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ilham87
post Nov 16 2008, 04:07 PM

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QUOTE(keccik @ Nov 16 2008, 11:02 AM)
apart from the detector, now i heard some rumors saying there's a new device (some sort of universal remote that u use to alarm/disalarm) your car.. which enables the thief to open your car without doing any harm to your car.

so basically this thief will wait at any corner and wait for victim.

Example,

Let say you parked your car and *alarm* your car without noticing or suspecting anything (the new device : will detect your alarm during you trigger to lock your car). Therefore , this thief will just come, *dis-alarm* your car, open.. take anything inside ; laptop,TnG,valuebles.. and went off. If the thief is kind enough , he/she will lock back the car for you.

AND YOU WILL NOT NOTICE ANYTHING... imagine that.

its the same as your car remote alarm, just that this device can be used on any OEM alarm?? im not sure myself, just heard thru frens. can anyone clarify this? or have any experience with this new device?
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yes i heard it also. i think what it does is when you press your car key to lock your car, then this device will capture the signal. And then the device resend the signal to unlock your car.
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post Nov 16 2008, 04:10 PM

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get a netbook weighing less than 1.5k and lug it anywhere! i dunt bring my 17 inch , 2 kilo + laptop outside
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post Nov 16 2008, 04:10 PM

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QUOTE(moniqee @ Nov 16 2008, 10:39 AM)
i already checked ths linked..

it stated in the T&C that

snatch thief is under their exclusion lar...

so is stolen from vehicle...

theft without forcible entry...
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sure lar.. if they allow this, people will cheat to get new laptop. just make a false police report.. and then claim.
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QUOTE(ilham87 @ Nov 16 2008, 04:07 PM)
yes i heard it also. i think what it does is when you press your car key to lock your car, then this device will capture the signal. And then the device resend the signal to unlock your car.
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yeah the function is like "universal TV remote control" where u can use on any TVs.

sigh* technologies nowadays.. therefore i always carry my lappy and never ever leave in the car altho for a short while.

later regret... no use already. even report to police, definitely u wont get the lappy back. rclxms.gif
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post Nov 17 2008, 01:08 PM

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Notebook Stolen in the house.. (Suspect stolen by housemate coz no break in from the door)

Model: HP Tablet tx1316AU
S/N: scnf7444g86
P/N: DF832A
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post Nov 17 2008, 01:48 PM

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I'm here to share some story about stolen laptop. I am
the user of Acer Aspire 4520-500512L and has been stolen
without being detected since 18 April 2008.

Here are my tragic true story to share for you all in this forum.

This tragic day happen when I have a study break last April.
That time I was in 1st semester. Diploma in Arts and Design @
Universiti Teknologi MARA Alor Gajah, Melaka.

The bad dream begins when I'm packing my stuff for home, that
time I was to sleepy because busy to completing my assignments.
So I pack my laptop right to my laptop bag and because I'm to
sleepy, I put my laptop on my right and get some sleep. If I remember,
the time it was happen was 9:30 am in the morning.

When I woke up at 11:20 am later, I open my eyes and I realize that
my laptop was gone.

I've tried to tell to my friends who's enter the dorm that morning but
my friend said he doesn't seen someone enter the dorm stealing my
laptop. I'm so frustrated + worried + angry with myself how my laptop
was gone.

So my friend advise me to report stolen laptop immediately to the security
and said they'll investigate this missing laptop.

But...............................................................

I've realized that my efforts were failed and even I report to the security doesn't
help me to retrieve back my laptop and was considered GONE!

With my beloved laptop was gone, I've learned my lesson that:

1. I shouldn't sleep late even when I've struggling to complete my assignment that
causes I'm tired.
2. I shouldn't put my laptop bag to the place where the thief easily spot my laptop
( I should keep it in my locker )

So the missing of my beloved laptop is still mystery, Walahuallam........
I don't know who thief he is, I don't know where my laptop was gone and I don't know
how they were gone.

Hope this story could be a useful lesson for u guys. For me, the missing
of my beloved laptop is such a tragic. cry.gif

My Aspire 4520-500512, where r u gone!!!!!! cry.gif

P/S: Anyone who can share tips on how to avoid stolen laptop, please tell me......

This post has been edited by deentk_1987: Nov 17 2008, 01:56 PM
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post Nov 17 2008, 09:59 PM

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QUOTE(deentk_1987 @ Nov 17 2008, 01:48 PM)
I'm here to share some story about stolen laptop. I am
the user of Acer Aspire 4520-500512L and has been stolen
without being detected since 18 April 2008.

Here are my tragic true story to share for you all in this forum.

This tragic day happen when I have a study break last April.
That time I was in 1st semester. Diploma in Arts and Design @
Universiti Teknologi MARA Alor Gajah, Melaka.

The bad dream begins when I'm packing my stuff for home, that
time I was to sleepy because busy to completing my assignments.
So I pack my laptop right to my laptop bag and because I'm to
sleepy, I put my laptop on my right and get some sleep. If I remember,
the time it was happen was 9:30 am in the morning.

When I woke up at 11:20 am later, I open my eyes and I realize that
my laptop was gone.

I've tried to tell to my friends who's enter the dorm that morning but
my friend said he doesn't seen someone enter the dorm stealing my
laptop. I'm so frustrated + worried + angry with myself how my laptop
was gone.

So my friend advise me to report stolen laptop immediately to the security
and said they'll investigate this missing laptop.

But...............................................................

I've realized that my efforts were failed and even I report to the security doesn't
help me to retrieve back my laptop and was considered GONE!

With my beloved laptop was gone, I've learned my lesson that:

1. I shouldn't sleep late even when I've struggling to complete my assignment that
causes I'm tired.
2. I shouldn't put my laptop bag to the place where the thief easily spot my laptop
( I should keep it in my locker )

So the missing of my beloved laptop is still mystery, Walahuallam........
I don't know who thief he is, I don't know where my laptop was gone and I don't know
how they were gone.

Hope this story could be a useful lesson for u guys. For me, the missing
of my beloved laptop is such a tragic.  cry.gif

My Aspire 4520-500512, where r u gone!!!!!!  cry.gif

P/S: Anyone who can share tips on how to avoid stolen laptop, please tell me......
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avoiding it could be hard. it happens anytime, anywhere.

but one thing you can do is try to set up user/supervisor password to login to your computer (through bios.. not windows password). By doing this, it is hard for the thief to reformat and resell the notebook ( there is a way to clear bios password but it is very hard and you need skills to dissect the notebook and assemble it back)

for some notebook with integrated TPM chip, there is no way to reset the password unless they send it back to the manufacturer. Thats the good thing about TPM.
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how does theif detect there is a laptop in the car? some said becuz of the wiif signal when the battery is connected.true?
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post Nov 18 2008, 09:07 AM

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i keep passwords and important files at google docs & email
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post Nov 18 2008, 09:50 AM

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My laptops were stolen in a house break last month.
1 is Compaq presario v3000 and another one is a Dell Vostro. So sad... sad.gif
I am living in a condo with security guards. Guess those guards are not reliable. Sigh...
I suspect it could be an inside job. But nothing I can do about it.


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post Nov 18 2008, 10:08 AM

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DaRust, which condo, could u tell? like a warning to us

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post Nov 18 2008, 10:18 AM

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my laptop brand GATEWAY model MT3705 been stolen when my whole family was away for a dinner function...my dad bought it all the way from the states...it was like very limited in m'sia as there were a few of it only...now gone ad...if any1 saw any GATEWAY laptop pls do notice me...thx...

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post Nov 18 2008, 11:06 AM

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QUOTE(beatlesalbum @ Nov 16 2008, 04:10 PM)
get a netbook weighing less than 1.5k and lug it anywhere! i dunt bring my 17 inch , 2 kilo + laptop outside
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My friend witness a snatch theft of this type of laptop at Damansara Perdana mamak restaurant early this month in broad daylight during lunch hour. People give chase but cannot catch the culprit because his accomplice was waiting right beside the road on a motorbike.

So unless you strap the laptop on your body, you are still in danger of theft. It all depends on luck I guess.


Added on November 18, 2008, 11:12 am
QUOTE(ilham87 @ Nov 17 2008, 09:59 PM)
avoiding it could be hard. it happens anytime, anywhere.

but one thing you can do is try to set up user/supervisor password to login to your computer (through bios.. not windows password). By doing this, it is hard for the thief to reformat and resell the notebook ( there is a way to clear bios password but it is very hard and you need skills to dissect the notebook and assemble it back)

for some notebook with integrated TPM chip, there is no way to reset the password unless they send it back to the manufacturer. Thats the good thing about TPM.
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Yes I have done this before in collage. My friends Compaq was locked good because he forgot the BIOS password. So I remember my PCs BIOS setting missing because the CMOS battery already gone, I just pop open the notebook and unplug the CMOS battery.

Good to know that there is this new technology to hinder this method o forceable entry.


Added on November 18, 2008, 11:16 am
QUOTE(kousou @ Nov 18 2008, 10:18 AM)
my laptop brand GATEWAY model MT3705 been stolen when my whole family was away for a dinner function...my dad bought it all the way from the states...it was like very limited in m'sia as there were a  few of it only...now gone ad...if any1 saw any GATEWAY laptop pls do notice me...thx...
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Do you have a photo. My Dell 510m has a Ubuntu sticker on top. But sadly all photo is in the stolen notebook itself.

Yes, all family photo including my brothers and brother in law wedding inside laptop also. So now all gone. Now I learned my lesson and I upload all photo to a premium Flickr account. At least pics are safe now. Have online backup copy.


Added on November 18, 2008, 11:21 am
QUOTE(y_owez @ Nov 17 2008, 11:07 PM)
how does theif detect there is a laptop in the car? some said becuz of the wiif signal when the battery is connected.true?
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I have google it a bit. On some foreign forum there were discussing about modifying a laptop and using it's internal soundcard as a metal detector. They even post diagrams of the detector rod. This metal detector is like the one used for treasure hunting but the technology lies not in the hardware part but the software that they use. Using the difference in electromagnetic frequency or radio frequency of said devices they can determine what type of laptop is in the car, digicam and other electronic devices. Quite scary.


Added on November 18, 2008, 11:30 am
QUOTE(moniqee @ Nov 16 2008, 10:39 AM)
i already checked ths linked..

it stated in the T&C that

snatch thief is under their exclusion lar...

so is stolen from vehicle...

theft without forcible entry...
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Yes the T&C is easily understand because it is not in some technical jargon but a diagram.

http://www.ucare.com.my/coverage/index.html

So confirm not covered sad.gif

But if you worry about theft in house. You can get the Kurnia Householder Plus insurance for up to RM50,000 a year at RM178.00 only! It covers theft without forcible entry.

UPDATE: I just met up with Kurnia claims officer. Laptop theft is not covered for any of their insurance package, be it auto vehicle or householder/homeowner. Not only that, all claims will be rejected for small items such as digital camera, camcoder, mp4 player, tablet PC (whatever small items that can be carry by small children). Her exact words.

This post has been edited by gyver: Dec 4 2008, 06:04 PM
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post Nov 18 2008, 03:39 PM

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QUOTE(zzzxtreme @ Nov 18 2008, 10:08 AM)
DaRust, which condo, could u tell? like a warning to us
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Puncak Banyan Condo. After i attended a community meeting earlier this month only i had realized that there were lotsa break in cases earlier this year. After numerous complaints. They tighten up the security. No cases reported until last October which is me >.< vmad.gif
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QUOTE(DaRust @ Nov 18 2008, 09:50 AM)
My laptops were stolen in a house break last month.
1 is Compaq presario v3000 and another one is a Dell Vostro.  So sad... sad.gif
I am living in a condo with security guards. Guess those guards are not reliable. Sigh...
I suspect it could be an inside job. But nothing I can do about it.
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Mine also..............
Model Aspire 4520-500512L.
Stolen last April 18 '08 at UITM Alor Gajah
Already report to security guard but sigh........ nothing else I can do to retrieve back
my laptop

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post Nov 18 2008, 10:14 PM

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i lost a clone laptop. very light and still the best. the thief broke my car window. i not only lost laptop but car repair for window

lesson: never leave laptop in car
: buy insurance for new laptop if necesary
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post Nov 18 2008, 10:57 PM

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QUOTE(ilham87 @ Nov 17 2008, 09:59 PM)
avoiding it could be hard. it happens anytime, anywhere.

but one thing you can do is try to set up user/supervisor password to login to your computer (through bios.. not windows password). By doing this, it is hard for the thief to reformat and resell the notebook ( there is a way to clear bios password but it is very hard and you need skills to dissect the notebook and assemble it back)

for some notebook with integrated TPM chip, there is no way to reset the password unless they send it back to the manufacturer. Thats the good thing about TPM.
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yeap, making the thief cannot sell and format the laptop, but then what? its not like the thief gonna give the laptop back
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post Nov 19 2008, 10:14 AM

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QUOTE(xordMeztGeR @ Nov 18 2008, 10:57 PM)
yeap, making the thief cannot sell and format the laptop, but then what? its not like the thief gonna give the laptop back
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which one better? let the thief enjoy the money selling your notebook or both party also loss? icon_idea.gif
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post Nov 19 2008, 10:28 AM

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i have this idea

why don't i write somekind of software to do this

1) on windows start, the program will load invisibly and capture user image with webcam and save on disk

2) then the program will try to email the image file periodically to a specified email , also invisibly


Criteria -
1) Your windows login is not password protected
2) I will only do testing with windows XP


any thoughts & suggestions guys?

This post has been edited by zzzxtreme: Nov 19 2008, 10:29 AM
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post Nov 19 2008, 12:12 PM

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QUOTE(zzzxtreme @ Nov 19 2008, 10:28 AM)
i have this idea

why don't i write somekind of software to do this

1) on windows start, the program will load invisibly and capture user image with webcam and save on disk

2) then the program will try to email the image file periodically to a specified email , also invisibly
Criteria -
1) Your windows login is not password protected
2) I will only do testing with windows XP
any thoughts & suggestions guys?
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Great idea actually. But 2 things you have to keep in mind.

- The thief must be connected to the internet
- Normally thief dun bother to login your computer. straight away format

so the chances that you will be getting the image is very very low.

However, you can have a try. good idea anyway. thumbup.gif

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