no no
keycolor boss and pixels boss are the same person
keycolor is basically the consumer brand shop
pixels is purely leica

this is what i heard from that boss when i was there playing with the d lux 4
he asked me to get it there and then and get 3 years warrantly and free that leather pouch and dunno what
i asked the price, i nearly fainted

I think i know who the Lansi guy is.. Short guy, Wearing Specs.. I cant stand him also.. the other day i went there asked bout Sony's Handycam with my father (As usual, Wearing short pants, Slippers, T-shirt) I went in to ask bout the handycam.. he treat me macam like glass oni.. Never seen such a Lansi Salesman in my life man><" When he speak, his tone like damn mm song wan..

Ya I oni figured Pixels was same company as Key Color when the plastic bag they gave me was a Key Color bag.






If ur tokin bout the Mid Valley shop called Fotodata then yes a guy with glasses. I hope u all din misunderstand me when I sed the Mid Valley shop very lansi. I visited Key Color n Photo Trillion at mid valley too n both had excellent service. If u read my blog, I tried out the Olympus FL20 flash n that was at Trillion, most excellent service from that old guy there. It was just that Fotodata so called Leica Premier Dealer that was really Mebe he oni likes to serve people who wear Gianni Versace from head to toe. Slippers n shorts ppl all can go buy BenQ camera.

good to see some experience sharing here...
at least i know which shop to avoid...

So........ u gonna buy Leica or BenQ camera?

hahahaha...
depends on wat i m waering that time laaa...


so mr ianho....
what u think...
film or digital leica?

I say M8.2. Play film pokai lar.

M8.2 is nice. the red dot becomes black.
the camera looks like stealth

if i get the m8.2
i can no longer use d3...need to downgrade d300...
which i think is not a bad choice...

but but wat shud the first lense b?

btw...since we r in the topic...
whats the difference between
- summilux
- summicron
- summarit
- elmar
- elmarit
?

hope i can get some explaination...
bcoz summarit lenses are much cheaper then the -cron and -lux....

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Added on November 22, 2008, 1:44 pmM8.2 FTW!
but black or silver?

This post has been edited by xandman: Nov 22 2008, 01:44 PM

I loooooooove the black 1 but if ur gonna handle it like a war journalist, I guess silver coz it wont scratch off the color n still look ok after years of abuse. Wanna know what all those Leica terms mean? Join the Leica owners forum lor. www.l-camera-forum.com

black all the way.
and i like the fact that the black paint will scratch off. hehee! it looks like battle scars.
people will look at your camera and thought you are representing AFP and just came back from afghanistan.

silver is nice too but lost the stealth-ness

if i were u xandman, i wouldnt be bothered with the nikon anymore once i have the M8.2

i got myself into this trouble....
and now i m being poisoned by people...using my own itchiness!
hahahaha...

ifer...ianho...
i was thinking of the black too!
Sexay!!!

ifer...
ur last line...
is the MOST POISONEST yet!

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Added on November 22, 2008, 10:23 pmAnyway...
juz to share something...
i found the meaning of all the terms...

Lens Guide:

Elmars - Small and Lightweight. Some are collapsible for low profile. They are Sharp and have a flat field much like macro lenses. In the older days many doubled the ise of the elmars as enlarger lenses or repro lenses because of there flat field characteristics. This means that they are very sharp from edge to edge. Most of these lenses are highly under rated in todays world of speedy lenses, but to me the Elmars are some of my personal favorites. Great travel lenses, especially for landscapes and scenics.

Elmarits - An extension of the Elmars, but not collapsible and a little larger. Not as fast as the Summicrons but smaller in size and weight.

Summicrons - Small lenses with the reputation of being the standard by which all other lenses are judged for sharpess and contrast.

Summilux's - The Speed Denoms. Leica's Fast lenses - when you need light gathering power or subject isolation these are the lenses to get. As sharp as the Summicrons when used at the same aperture. Larger and Heavier than Summicrons.

Specialty Lenses - Noctilux (the Fastest Lens in the World at F1). Dual Range and Macro lenses for close ups. Super Angulons for Wide Angle and the Thambar for flatterinf soft focus portraits.

Lens Terms:

APO - Apochromatic, focuses all three colors of the light spectrum at one point. Maximum sharpness and white objects show no color fringing. All other lenses are Achromats. Leica does not throw this term around losely like other Manufacturers for marketing reasons. An APO Leica lens is so perfect that it does not need to be re-focused when shooting infrared film.

Asph. - Aspheric lens elements are essentially non-round lens elements that are shaped more rectangular. They are used mainly in Wide Angle lenses to reduce distortion characteristics of lenses.

This post has been edited by xandman: Nov 22 2008, 10:23 PM

Hehehe, xandman faster go buy lar. then can start owners list oredi.

hahahaha...
i m waiting to 'test drive' the m8 first...and see if its wat i want...
i cant wait actually...

Specially for xandman. Stealth M8 with Noctilux!

this is waaaaaaayyyyyyy NOT GOOD for me!
how to get the stealth m8?
afaik...the m8 logo sure will be visible...
this is not the m8.2 rite?

ooooooooo NaughtyLust!
yum yum!

ianho is a verified "orang jahat"!

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Added on November 23, 2008, 3:51 pmI m f***ed officially...
i just held the M8....and it feels great!

This post has been edited by xandman: Nov 23 2008, 03:51 PM

if u want a true stealth M... i am afraid you will have to get the leica MP, which is a film camera. i did a mistake earlier on claiming that the MP do not come with a built in light meter. it does actually

and the MP, similar to the M6, can be used even though you take off the battery. only no light meter lah.

xandman, once you try the leica lenses, you will never want to go back to nikkor. what what AF-S, ED, N, VR, trinity lenses all kasi buang dalam longkang. try doing it in black and white and you will know what i mean. seriously

leica lenses are sharp, but it's not like japanese sharp... hard. german's sharp are more organic.

ifer...
MP does have a light meter??!!!
i din know that!!!

this is changing towards the better it seems!
MP is my dream oso...

if i really wanna kaotim once in a lifetime purchase....
i might go a la carte!

but thx again for the info of MP...
will look into it now...

but but...m8 is cool oso!

did u get that leica 2008/2009 guide book?
i got it when i visited the so call leica booth at pavilion last week. the book mentioned that the MP has a built in light meter.

ala carte is nice but do remember it's film xandman...
unless you are used to using film once upon a time, if not the cost of buying films and processing will kill you.

once M8.2 is out, i am sure M8's price will plummet like the stock market. 2nd hand market is even worse i guess...

actually m8.2 is out...
juz havent arrived msia i think....
hahahaha...

yeah MP n M7 are film cams...
thats y i m still torn in between...

aaaiiiiisssshhhhhhh...
this is so hard!