For those JPA scholars, I have got a few questions here of what happens in the end of your study.

1) So, do you try to find the job or government find it for you (ie. SPA)?

2) Do they just suggest you to apply govt. post from SPA or they say it is compulsory to do so?

3) Do they mention about releasing you after how long of you not being offered a job and conditions relevant?

Thank you very much.

no la. they wont find u. u need 2 fill up the spa form, wait for them to call u for interview b4 u can work with them.

Im a JPA scholar myself

I already report to JPA on Oct 2008 that Im graduated, applied 5 positions under SPA, and sent everything that JPA requested. Right now no calls from them.

As I know, if within one year after the reporting date and if JPA still cant able to find me a job, then I consider lepas diri dy.

In the meantime, Im already working.

Hi,
need help from you guys
I am a JPA scholar and still haven't finish study yet. going to graduate this coming june tho. so apparently, i have started to apply for jobs in private sector already. There is one big company who wish to hire me. Upon knowing that i am bonded to jpa for 6 years, the HR asked me whether i can ask for release letter from JPA now. i dont think its possible right. however, Is it possible to ask from JPA for the release letter now? If i really want to work for this big company as it is one of my dream career, what should i do? is there any other options to escape from the JPA bond?

Thing is, you are impossible to get release letter from JPA until after 1 year you have lapor diri. Something I believe you can do now is to convince your "big company" that for current economy situation, SPA job becomes very popular and it is pretty low chance for you to be selected by them. If you happen to visit SPA site regularly, you will notice how many people are really looking forward go work for gomen (e.g. 1 job with 2 positions available, >60,000 will apply, 100 will be asked for interviewed, 2 taken). Good luck.

just wondering whether anyone encounters the same situation with me (wants to go into private but is bonded with gov)
how did you guys deal with this? if let say JPA call me in but i still want to work in private sector, then i hav to breach the contract, do you know how much i have to pay monthly? i know i have to pay whatever JPA sponsored me
btw, thx for the view

Chances are you'll never get called up unless you're a med student. But if you want to make sure you never get a ring from them, just don't apply for any jobs from them. They'll never know. Or maybe they just can't be bother going through the hassle of calling you to ask what's up.

yeap unless you're a med student,them calling you is low.

after coming back,report and keep low profile..and after a year apply for release. they don't mind at all. most of my friends did that. and not one of them is bonded to the govt.

and time where they pay for your flight ticket once a year? i don't think they do that anymore. at least i never received it.

yeah...luckily i'm not med student
but then my situation now is like stuck in between...
the HR personnel said that he need the release letter in order for him to process further with my application. I did try to convince him that it's quite difficult to get the release letter, must wait until 1 year, etc. And then i mentioned that i am willing to repay back the amount owed to JPA as the last resort if that's the only way for me to work in the company. and so, he said ok...he will look into it. so now, i feel like my chance is just hanging in between and depends on his "budibicara" hahaaa

I am a JPA scholar myself. Already work with big private sector company. heheh. So..use YOUR BUDI BICARA to convince the employer that this JPA bond will not be a big issue to you and to the future company.Work, perform and be a good employee. When you start working, if the JPA hunt for you, then you can ask for rayuan pelepasan together with supporting document from your company. I strongly believe that JPA would not force you just to work for gov.

hi
one of my fren is JPA local scholar.
He studied science in local university.
He apply jpa becos He knows he wont be bonded to government although the government contract is stated so
can v say lucky if he is not called by government after 1 year?or he is unlucky since now is economic bad time,difficult to find job in private sector?

anyway,how many of u are not called by government after graduation and work in private sector currently ?What course u r doing?local or overseas?
tq

I'm doing immunology degree under jpa. How high are the chances for jpa to bond me? What do you think they will ask me to serve as? Usually immunologist in Msia need at least masters/phd, right?

just apply at SPA website...if u dont wanna work for gov, just apply the position that not related to your course, for sure u will not be called for an interview..after 1 year, apply for "surat pelepasan"

but come on, why in the st place you apply for gov scholarship if don't wanna work with gov ? u are wasting public money just for the sake of yourself and u do not feel guilty for that...

if u r really sincere, pay back whatever amount that JPA sponsor you...that is responsible and respectable action...

hi, I would like to know what should i do if i were not able to attend the SPA interview? shall i just ignore it or do i hv to call up to SPA and explain?

if i'm gonna work as engineer in TUDM..does it consider as gomen sector?

which university does u take immunology?

yes..

hi peeps, I just wanna consult some advice over here. I am currently offered to be sponsored under JPA and I was thinking if they're still gonna bond chinese for 6 years or if I choose to work under private sector or somewhere near issit possible??? I'm not sure how does the bond goes and applying jobs under SPA, so I would appreciate if anyone can enlighten me as I gotta reply before the 24th.. I have some other reasons that are holding me on too... =) Sincerely seeking for adviiice and best if it comes from a JPA scholar too .

CHeers

its good actually to be sponsored by the JPA scholars. i myself was one of them,and now graduated for a week already i already fill in the spa application and will 'lapor diri' this coming monday by filling in a form (to be post to them). basically, JPA holder will be given 6 month period after the lapor diri,if the gov still ignore u(did not offer u any jobs in gov),then u r free to work in the private sector..so meanwhile within the 6month period,u can still work with the private.. i myself applied jobs in the private sector..btw,they give good sum of allowances per semester.. ;p

Just a correction which I deem correct. This period of time for you to apply for bond release would be 1 year instead of 6 months. Another piece of advice, through my experience with JPA thus far, they do call up Dentistry, Pharmacy and Medicine students for service, but not as frequent with holders from other degrees/fields.

Hi. alya_adore,
Can i know what course you are doing?

Hey all,

I am wondering about if they are getting any actuarial science students into the government? I heard rumors(unconfirmed) that BNM will take JPA actuarial students. Any clue? If I don't want to work with BNM at all, can I just avoid applying for pegawai aktuari when I fill the form?

Thanks a lot!

I was a JPA scholar. But they don't have any job for me so i send them a request letter for release. Quite easy.. no need to wait 1 year. In fact, i joined private company once i graduated.

my senior who graduated april 09, havent got a call from gov/spa

me myself graduated nov 09 oso havent got a call
both of us took mechatronics engineering

after u send the letter..how long it take for u to release from them? how u know they release u? are they send u release letter?

i don't really remember how long it takes, 2 months maybe?? it was >5 years ago. my memory is not that good. they will send you a letter informing you that you are released.

just got the contact release letter from jpa! went to exam few times throughout the years and even went for final interview, but fail to get any job, then apply for release, able to get it at last.

How do you get this form for the release letter?
Do we have to personally type it?
And to track what date they got the lapor diri letter?

People,

I'm a JPA scholar, I worked for private for 4 years already, and I heard lots of stuff been said about been released by JPA.

Legally:

1. No such thing as AUTOMATIC RELEASE (automatically released after 1 year applied for job with SPA). Everything needs to be in Black & White.
2. For release, you have to write a letter to JPA. Only after you have the JPA's letter saying that you are released, then you are LEGALLY released.
3. If not, the govt can decide to call you, anytime, to serve the govt, maybe with low salary, even after several years and you already earning big bucks in a private company.
4. Just because the govt don't call you, doesn't mean you are released. Again, everything needs black & white.

However, in truth:
5. The gomen don't have enough place to give jobs for sponsored students in non-critical areas (unlike Medical), so the govt just let go them pandai- pandai cari makan sendiri among the private companies. A relative of mine works in sponsorship department of a GLC (not JPA), she confirmed this.
So, no. 3 above, probably will never happen.

Like one forumer here said, thousands non-sponsored applicants applied everyday with SPA for jobs, the govt don't have enough place for those applicants, why the govt want to bother calling their sponsored students?

Now, for the release letter:

You can just write a simple formal letter, asking to be released, mention your details (like when you graduate, from where, when did apply SPA, your JPA reference number, etcetc, as much info [for govt, there's nothing as too much info...just give them everything]) and mail it to Unit Pengurusan Perjanjian, JPA.

The unit will then run a cross-check with SPA, to confirm you did apply for job once, and started processing the release letter.

This post has been edited by abu_adi: Apr 12 2010, 12:03 PM

For those who want to study bachelor of science or engineering, better DON'T apply for JPA scholarship!!!
Happened to someone I know. He took JPA scholarship, studied for a science degree. Contract is 4 years. He just graduated last year.
He filled in the SPA form soon after his graduation but didn't get call for interview by SPA for the post of Science officer C41 or Research officer Q41, even there was the vacancy advertised in the SPA website.
And then, early this year, he got offered the post as contract Diplomatic and Admin Officer M41. He didn't applied for that position in his SPA online form and didn't get call for interview before but received the offer letter straight away.
However, he's not interested with that post and tried to call JPA to ask wheter he can decline the offer as Diplomatic and Admin Officer, but then the officer said if he decline the offer because of not interested, he would need to pay 100k in 60 days. Can only decline the offer if he get offered the permanent post in government sector, not temporary or contract. and srving at GLC doesn't count as serving the gov.

also happened to other ex-JPA scholars who studied science and engineering...including oversea engineering grads sponsored by the government...now all of them are wasting their hard earned expertise and knowledge as an admin in the gov sector....

THANK YOU MALAYSIA!!!!!!!

When the cross-check is done, do they check if you went to the interview? Does SPA keep a record of it or just the record of the SPA8 form that you fill out? Please advise, thank you!

are the any creteria to be released?or anyone who write release letter can be release from jpa?

Dear Asper_Sapper:

i have to be honest, that is not the first time I heard that kind of story... that's why its important to ask for release letter ASAP when you graduated...

other than that, its up to the sponsors (regardless JPA, Sime Darby, Petronas, Shell, or etc) to give you any job...they paid for your study, right?

Dear dragonlem:

I'm told by JPA officers, that they do cross- check if you got applied thru SPA8 or not, or went thru interview or not. My own case, I just attached the letter they posted me about the exam venue.

Dear alaq22:

AFAIK, the criteria is:
1. you already applied / interviewed / took exam for any posts
2. they didn't offer you ANY job (again, the story by Asper_Sapper) after 1 year (i could be wrong about this duration...not sure..)

i got my release letter 2 weeks after i sent the inquiry release letter...surprised it is that fast! so no more worries to be called...

if its really needed, here's the letter..simple oni..







This post has been edited by abu_adi: May 17 2010, 03:35 PM

some say we can apply for job that are not related to our field but i wonder if this technique does work?
later if they know us doing this and get detected what the outcome
tq for posting the sample there...
i also want to get release from gov

dont worry la.. SPA seldom hire chinese... beside, u can directly said dint take any JPA sponsor when appling a job. save your time.... because nowadays, SPA will not seldom take new workers.

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Added on May 17, 2010, 9:27 pmfyi, i am jpa scholar too. but now is already working in private SAP Area ald.. i dint mention to my company that i am jpa scholar. everything look so smooth. dont worry...

This post has been edited by mariochuah: May 17 2010, 09:27 PM

I'm 1 of the JPA scholars who were offered the "wrong job" in the govt. graduated august last year with B.Sc. in Nuclear Science, applied for the post as research officer and science officer post thru SPA8i form. But never get called for any interview even there had been several job vacancy available for the post of research officer and science officer.

Then, early this year, JPA sent me an offer letter for the post as diplomatic and administrative officer. I never apply for that post and never been to the interview session for such post but was given the offer straight away. I can't the decline the offer even I'm not interested with that post.

But....I really wish can get the post as research officer either at Nuclear Malaysia or Atomic Energy Licensing Board..which is very much related to my qualification. But, for that post, I'll have to wait for the SPA interview session, whether i can get or not, still depend on how well i can do during the interview session. :(If the govt can't give me the post, then they should not force me to accept the wrong job which I can't decline....

My cousin tried once by applying a job that is totally unrelated to his field of study. He did electrical engineering but applied for some aerospace thingy. JPA immediately turn down his application and he was released.
The method that abu_adi used might backfire cause JPA will ask you to pay certain amount of money within certain amount of time.
Oh btw, i m a JPA overseas scholar too.

U mean JPA straight away reject his application and release him from contract within 1 year?

Yup. and when he was ask to go for an interview with SPA, he told me that he purposely failed that interview. most of his friends did that too. At the end he got rejected and got released.

haha.. i think overseas JPA scholar is preferable compare to local JPA sponsor (maybe they hv high expectation for those who graduate from overseas) so they mis-use the bond agreement to ask them fill in vacancy inside government eventhough is not related to what they hv studied. Me oso JPA scholar for 6 years but local IPTA. Now already 2 years working in private sector. The benefit is, no need to think to pay back anything after finish study...

(^__^)

This is what i used to hear from other people too. JPA and SPA tend to retain or choose those people which are under overseas scholarship compare to those taking local scholarship. So, how did u got released? mind sharing?

hmm... JPA is vry serious in enforcing their agreement now..but by forcing us to accept a job offer....not by giving us opportunity to go for the govt job interview of our choice....

damn it....i'm a local grad n my CGPA of 3.23 wasn't good enough to compete with each other to get the job i wanted in the govt sector (research or sciece officer) in order for me to quit the post as PTD (which was given freely but was forced to accept)

So what u mean is JPA just gave u a random job without looking at your qualification or field of study? If u don't accept the random job offer, what action shall be taken by them?

Well, the situation now is, 300+ of JPA graduates most of them are engineering and science graduates....some are oversea graduates

Accept the offer from JPA as diplomatic and administrative officer, without hving to go thru the interview, and most didn't even apply for tht post...declining the offer is not possible as it'd be regarded as refusing to serve the govt even not interested with the post.

haha ...they shud not wasting people expertise =_=.

Well, the govt's doing tht now.....

So if you refuse to serve they will force you to pay up a certain amount of money? This is the first time i heard about this which is totally unacceptable.

yup..RM 110k..which is 4 times the amount they sponsored me

exactly the same thing which is happening to my other cousin but she got an job offer which has something to do with her degree. She graduated with a law degree but after she report to JPA..she went to japan to do her masters. Now jpa is knocking at her door asking her to pay up if she refuse to serve.

really? cuz wat i heard is u can further ur study... as long as u take again another sponsorship under JPA ....

She also get offered as PTD????

She did her masters under a different scholarship. Some japanese government scholarship if i m not mistaken. She got offered a job as some kind of a lawyer in the government sector.

Some JPA scholarship will offer u a job after graduate n some are not...

Lawyer is ok what..still related to her study...
anyway, as far as I know, if she happened to get job offer while further her study, she could defer the contract...

by right, she suppose to inform JPA before further study, so that JPA can defer her employment..

Anyway, does the Japanese scholarship hve any bond ??

yup..all scholarships do have bonds. The last time when i talk to her, she told me that she might pay back JPA after finishing her masters as she is deferring her contract right now.

does it mean when u're waiting for them to call u for work they giv u allowance too??

from my point of view, JPA should implement a system where if those sponsored by government don't want to serve them after grads because of the job given not related to their field of studies. they can opt to buy their way out of the bond. let's say half the amount of what JPA pay for them and period of 15 years maybe. the benefits from my view if this type of system implemented consists of:

1. grads don't need to work in unrelated sector thus wasting their knowledge.

2. grads have more time to collect money slowly and pay back JPA. unlike 60days notice like what is used now.

3. 1/2 the amount paid will be like government help to the student. but grads still need to pay the other half because they're not serving the government.

4. instead of releasing them freely, charge them half and the money still can benefits others who need sponsorship.

Agree

it just like convertible scholarship u know that the amount that they sponsored us was 25k, while the amount they penalise us for refusing to serve is 100k. and we need to pay back within 60 days..

But I guess, for those graduates who choose not to serve with govt when called up for, and want to go for private company or GLC, they'll have to pay back to JPA fixed amount of money every month. BUT if they decide to serve in the public service or statutory bodies after some period of them, they can stop paying the money.

This post has been edited by AhGuan: Aug 28 2010, 04:14 AM