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post Nov 23 2009, 08:40 PM

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Hi. alya_adore,
Can i know what course you are doing?
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post Feb 22 2010, 08:40 AM

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Hey all,

I am wondering about if they are getting any actuarial science students into the government? I heard rumors(unconfirmed) that BNM will take JPA actuarial students. Any clue? If I don't want to work with BNM at all, can I just avoid applying for pegawai aktuari when I fill the form?

Thanks a lot!
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post Feb 24 2010, 11:38 PM

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I was a JPA scholar. But they don't have any job for me so i send them a request letter for release. Quite easy.. no need to wait 1 year. In fact, i joined private company once i graduated.
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post Feb 25 2010, 09:22 PM

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my senior who graduated april 09, havent got a call from gov/spa

me myself graduated nov 09 oso havent got a call
both of us took mechatronics engineering

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post Feb 27 2010, 12:54 AM

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QUOTE(jyth_82 @ Feb 24 2010, 11:38 PM)
I was a JPA scholar. But they don't have any job for me so i send them a request letter for release. Quite easy.. no need to wait 1 year. In fact, i joined private company once i graduated.
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after u send the letter..how long it take for u to release from them? how u know they release u? are they send u release letter?

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post Feb 28 2010, 09:23 PM

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i don't really remember how long it takes, 2 months maybe?? it was >5 years ago. my memory is not that good. they will send you a letter informing you that you are released.
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post Feb 28 2010, 09:33 PM

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just got the contact release letter from jpa! went to exam few times throughout the years and even went for final interview, but fail to get any job, then apply for release, able to get it at last.
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post Mar 3 2010, 03:13 PM

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How do you get this form for the release letter?
Do we have to personally type it?
And to track what date they got the lapor diri letter?
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post Apr 12 2010, 11:59 AM

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QUOTE(juniorpop @ Mar 3 2010, 03:13 PM)
How do you get this form for the release letter?
Do we have to personally type it?
And to track what date they got the lapor diri letter?
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People,

I'm a JPA scholar, I worked for private for 4 years already, and I heard lots of stuff been said about been released by JPA.

Legally:

1. No such thing as AUTOMATIC RELEASE (automatically released after 1 year applied for job with SPA). Everything needs to be in Black & White.
2. For release, you have to write a letter to JPA. Only after you have the JPA's letter saying that you are released, then you are LEGALLY released.
3. If not, the govt can decide to call you, anytime, to serve the govt, maybe with low salary, even after several years and you already earning big bucks in a private company.
4. Just because the govt don't call you, doesn't mean you are released. Again, everything needs black & white.

However, in truth:
5. The gomen don't have enough place to give jobs for sponsored students in non-critical areas (unlike Medical), so the govt just let go them pandai- pandai cari makan sendiri among the private companies. A relative of mine works in sponsorship department of a GLC (not JPA), she confirmed this.
So, no. 3 above, probably will never happen.

Like one forumer here said, thousands non-sponsored applicants applied everyday with SPA for jobs, the govt don't have enough place for those applicants, why the govt want to bother calling their sponsored students?

Now, for the release letter:

You can just write a simple formal letter, asking to be released, mention your details (like when you graduate, from where, when did apply SPA, your JPA reference number, etcetc, as much info [for govt, there's nothing as too much info...just give them everything]) and mail it to Unit Pengurusan Perjanjian, JPA.

The unit will then run a cross-check with SPA, to confirm you did apply for job once, and started processing the release letter.

This post has been edited by abu_adi: Apr 12 2010, 12:03 PM
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post Apr 23 2010, 04:49 PM

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For those who want to study bachelor of science or engineering, better DON'T apply for JPA scholarship!!!
Happened to someone I know. He took JPA scholarship, studied for a science degree. Contract is 4 years. He just graduated last year.
He filled in the SPA form soon after his graduation but didn't get call for interview by SPA for the post of Science officer C41 or Research officer Q41, even there was the vacancy advertised in the SPA website.
And then, early this year, he got offered the post as contract Diplomatic and Admin Officer M41. He didn't applied for that position in his SPA online form and didn't get call for interview before but received the offer letter straight away.
However, he's not interested with that post and tried to call JPA to ask wheter he can decline the offer as Diplomatic and Admin Officer, but then the officer said if he decline the offer because of not interested, he would need to pay 100k in 60 days. Can only decline the offer if he get offered the permanent post in government sector, not temporary or contract. and srving at GLC doesn't count as serving the gov.

also happened to other ex-JPA scholars who studied science and engineering...including oversea engineering grads sponsored by the government...now all of them are wasting their hard earned expertise and knowledge as an admin in the gov sector....

THANK YOU MALAYSIA!!!!!!!
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post Apr 27 2010, 02:01 AM

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QUOTE(abu_adi @ Apr 12 2010, 11:59 AM)
People,

I'm a JPA scholar, I worked for private for 4 years already, and I heard lots of stuff been said about been released by JPA.

Legally:

1. No such thing as AUTOMATIC RELEASE (automatically released after 1 year applied for job with SPA). Everything needs to be in Black & White.
2. For release, you have to write a letter to JPA. Only after you have the JPA's letter saying that you are released, then you are LEGALLY released.
3. If not, the govt can decide to call you, anytime, to serve the govt, maybe with low salary, even after several years and you already earning big bucks in a private company.
4. Just because the govt don't call you, doesn't mean you are released. Again, everything needs black & white.

However, in truth:
5. The gomen don't have enough place to give jobs for sponsored students in non-critical areas (unlike Medical), so the govt just let go them pandai- pandai cari makan sendiri among the private companies. A relative of mine works in sponsorship department of a GLC (not JPA), she confirmed this.
So, no. 3 above, probably will never happen.

Like one forumer here said, thousands non-sponsored applicants applied everyday with SPA for jobs, the govt don't have enough place for those applicants, why the govt want to bother calling their sponsored students?

Now, for the release letter:

You can just write a simple formal letter, asking to be released, mention your details (like when you graduate, from where, when did apply SPA, your JPA reference number, etcetc, as much info [for govt, there's nothing as too much info...just give them everything]) and mail it to Unit Pengurusan Perjanjian, JPA.

The unit will then run a cross-check with SPA, to confirm you did apply for job once, and started processing the release letter.
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When the cross-check is done, do they check if you went to the interview? Does SPA keep a record of it or just the record of the SPA8 form that you fill out? Please advise, thank you!
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post Apr 27 2010, 08:37 AM

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QUOTE(abu_adi @ Apr 12 2010, 11:59 AM)
People,

I'm a JPA scholar, I worked for private for 4 years already, and I heard lots of stuff been said about been released by JPA.

Legally:

1. No such thing as AUTOMATIC RELEASE (automatically released after 1 year applied for job with SPA). Everything needs to be in Black & White.
2. For release, you have to write a letter to JPA. Only after you have the JPA's letter saying that you are released, then you are LEGALLY released.
3. If not, the govt can decide to call you, anytime, to serve the govt, maybe with low salary, even after several years and you already earning big bucks in a private company.
4. Just because the govt don't call you, doesn't mean you are released. Again, everything needs black & white.

However, in truth:
5. The gomen don't have enough place to give jobs for sponsored students in non-critical areas (unlike Medical), so the govt just let go them pandai- pandai cari makan sendiri among the private companies. A relative of mine works in sponsorship department of a GLC (not JPA), she confirmed this.
So, no. 3 above, probably will never happen.

Like one forumer here said, thousands non-sponsored applicants applied everyday with SPA for jobs, the govt don't have enough place for those applicants, why the govt want to bother calling their sponsored students?

Now, for the release letter:

You can just write a simple formal letter, asking to be released, mention your details (like when you graduate, from where, when did apply SPA, your JPA reference number, etcetc, as much info [for govt, there's nothing as too much info...just give them everything]) and mail it to Unit Pengurusan Perjanjian, JPA.

The unit will then run a cross-check with SPA, to confirm you did apply for job once, and started processing the release letter.
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are the any creteria to be released?or anyone who write release letter can be release from jpa?

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post May 17 2010, 03:09 PM

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Dear Asper_Sapper:

i have to be honest, that is not the first time I heard that kind of story... that's why its important to ask for release letter ASAP when you graduated...

other than that, its up to the sponsors (regardless JPA, Sime Darby, Petronas, Shell, or etc) to give you any job...they paid for your study, right? biggrin.gif

Dear dragonlem:

I'm told by JPA officers, that they do cross- check if you got applied thru SPA8 or not, or went thru interview or not. My own case, I just attached the letter they posted me about the exam venue.

Dear alaq22:

AFAIK, the criteria is:
1. you already applied / interviewed / took exam for any posts
2. they didn't offer you ANY job (again, the story by Asper_Sapper) after 1 year (i could be wrong about this duration...not sure..)

i got my release letter 2 weeks after i sent the inquiry release letter...surprised it is that fast! so no more worries to be called...

if its really needed, here's the letter..simple oni..

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This post has been edited by abu_adi: May 17 2010, 03:35 PM
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post May 17 2010, 09:11 PM

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some say we can apply for job that are not related to our field but i wonder if this technique does work?
later if they know us doing this and get detected what the outcome
tq for posting the sample there...
i also want to get release from gov tongue.gif

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post May 17 2010, 09:25 PM

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dont worry la.. SPA seldom hire chinese... beside, u can directly said dint take any JPA sponsor when appling a job. save your time.... because nowadays, SPA will not seldom take new workers.


Added on May 17, 2010, 9:27 pmfyi, i am jpa scholar too. but now is already working in private SAP Area ald.. i dint mention to my company that i am jpa scholar. everything look so smooth. dont worry...

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post Aug 4 2010, 04:35 PM

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I'm 1 of the JPA scholars who were offered the "wrong job" in the govt. graduated august last year with B.Sc. in Nuclear Science, applied for the post as research officer and science officer post thru SPA8i form. But never get called for any interview even there had been several job vacancy available for the post of research officer and science officer.

Then, early this year, JPA sent me an offer letter for the post as diplomatic and administrative officer. I never apply for that post and never been to the interview session for such post but was given the offer straight away. I can't the decline the offer even I'm not interested with that post. sad.gif

But....I really wish can get the post as research officer either at Nuclear Malaysia or Atomic Energy Licensing Board..which is very much related to my qualification. But, for that post, I'll have to wait for the SPA interview session, whether i can get or not, still depend on how well i can do during the interview session. :(If the govt can't give me the post, then they should not force me to accept the wrong job which I can't decline.... sad.gif

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post Aug 4 2010, 05:49 PM

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My cousin tried once by applying a job that is totally unrelated to his field of study. He did electrical engineering but applied for some aerospace thingy. JPA immediately turn down his application and he was released.
The method that abu_adi used might backfire cause JPA will ask you to pay certain amount of money within certain amount of time.
Oh btw, i m a JPA overseas scholar too.
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post Aug 4 2010, 05:52 PM

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U mean JPA straight away reject his application and release him from contract within 1 year?
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post Aug 4 2010, 05:58 PM

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Yup. and when he was ask to go for an interview with SPA, he told me that he purposely failed that interview. most of his friends did that too. At the end he got rejected and got released.

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post Aug 4 2010, 10:30 PM

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haha.. i think overseas JPA scholar is preferable compare to local JPA sponsor (maybe they hv high expectation for those who graduate from overseas) so they mis-use the bond agreement to ask them fill in vacancy inside government eventhough is not related to what they hv studied. Me oso JPA scholar for 6 years but local IPTA. Now already 2 years working in private sector. The benefit is, no need to think to pay back anything after finish study...

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