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post Nov 5 2008, 12:30 PM, updated 17y ago

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Hi,iam a Newbie to this Forum!I have few question to ask about Pajero 4D56 Engine!

I am now owned a 2nd pajero with a 4D56 N/A Diesel Engine,but now i feel it is not enought power sad.gif so i want to upgrade it to a Intercooled Turbo System just like my 1st pajero,give me more power,when acclerate it is most same but once the Turbo Kick in it will let you sit deeper in the seat! brows.gif

I compare to my Turbo 4D56 engine,it is a same engine but only diffrent at Intake,Exhaust Manifold,a Turbo Pressure Sensor on Fuel Pump,and of course the Turbo itself,these thing can be bolt-On even hole for mount these Kit are already threaded!

My problem is where to get the Kit,and how to do it?

Any Advice?
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post Nov 5 2008, 01:09 PM

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dont bother with stock engine

u need this

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post Nov 5 2008, 04:11 PM

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hari hari ada noobies baru register bukak thread ka?
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QUOTE(Pajero 4D56 @ Nov 5 2008, 12:30 PM)
Hi,iam a Newbie to this Forum!I have few question to ask about Pajero 4D56 Engine!

I am now owned a 2nd pajero with a 4D56 N/A Diesel Engine,but now i feel it is not enought power  sad.gif so i want to upgrade it to a Intercooled Turbo System just like my 1st pajero,give me more power,when acclerate it is most same but once the Turbo Kick in it will let you sit deeper in the seat! brows.gif

I compare to my Turbo 4D56 engine,it is a same engine but only diffrent at Intake,Exhaust Manifold,a Turbo Pressure Sensor on Fuel Pump,and of course the Turbo itself,these thing can be bolt-On even hole for mount these Kit are already threaded!

My problem is where to get the Kit,and how to do it?

Any Advice?
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start with basics.... if ur engine dont have intercooler, add one... it makes a difference... consider installing boost controller to increase the boost pressure.... and of coz, the most direct, upgrading bigger turbine....

remember install turbo timer as well coz pajero dont have one.... turbo timer is important for forced induction engines....
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post Nov 6 2008, 03:43 AM

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QUOTE(the_catacombs @ Nov 5 2008, 07:43 PM)
start with basics.... if ur engine dont have intercooler, add one... it makes a difference... consider installing boost controller to increase the boost pressure.... and of coz, the most direct, upgrading bigger turbine....

remember install turbo timer as well coz pajero dont have one.... turbo timer is important for forced induction engines....
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turbo timers are just a simple programmed countdown clock..you can skip that if you dont run on boost before you decide to stop,example if you know youre nearing your destination,dont run on boost, and let the engine idle for a minute or so before you turn it off.

The best way i can suggest for you is go have a look at turbo diesel 4x4's,find out what you need and how they run.After that make a list of what you need,the overall cost and talk to mechanics who have done similar conversions..Know what yore getting into before you decide to put in in your ride.
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QUOTE(thelulz @ Nov 5 2008, 01:09 PM)
dont bother with stock engine

u need this

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What's with the complex plumbing work near the exhaust area?
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QUOTE(Esky @ Nov 6 2008, 11:00 AM)
What's with the complex plumbing work near the exhaust area?
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6 primary pipes of headers or exhaust manifold.... smile.gif
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QUOTE(detomaso @ Nov 5 2008, 04:11 PM)
hari hari ada noobies baru register bukak thread ka?
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Ada juga newbies yang cakap kosong! lol

QUOTE(thelulz @ Nov 5 2008, 01:09 PM)
dont bother with stock engine

u need this

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QUOTE(Esky @ Nov 6 2008, 11:00 AM)
What's with the complex plumbing work near the exhaust area?
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Manifold,Twin Turbo And Air Intake.


Added on November 7, 2008, 2:43 pmTS You Dont Want To Play With Petrol Engine,If You Do Ill Suggest You Look For Mitsubishi Galant VR-4 (1996-2003) - EC5A - 6G13TT - 4WD 2.5l Twin Turbo Petrol Engine.


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Petrol And Diesel Price Almost The Same These Day Why Not Give It A Try?, After All Good Luck Finding 4D56 Separated Turbo Kit Usually They Will Sell It Complete With Engine.

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vr4 engine abit underpower for such a heavyweight car such as pajero, wouldnt u think so??...
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QUOTE(siksa @ Nov 7 2008, 02:33 PM)
Manifold,Twin Turbo And Air Intake.


Added on November 7, 2008, 2:43 pmTS You Dont Want To Play With Petrol Engine,If You Do Ill Suggest You Look For Mitsubishi Galant VR-4 (1996-2003) - EC5A - 6G13TT - 4WD 2.5l Twin Turbo Petrol Engine.
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Petrol And Diesel Price Almost The Same These Day Why Not Give It A Try?, After All Good Luck Finding 4D56 Separated Turbo Kit Usually They Will Sell It Complete With Engine.
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i guess VR4 doesnt have enough torque for a pajero lah.
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post Nov 9 2008, 09:31 AM

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QUOTE(cloudstrife07 @ Nov 8 2008, 09:40 PM)
i guess VR4 doesnt have enough torque for a pajero lah.
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Engine

Configuration — DOHC 24v V type 6 cylinder
Code — 6A13TT
Bore/stroke, capacity — 81.0 × 80.8 mm, 2498 cc
Compression ratio — 8.5:1
Fuelling — ECI-MULTI, premium unleaded fuel
Peak power — 206 kW (280 PS) @ 5500 rpm
Peak torque — 367 N·m (271 ft·lbf) @ 4000 rpm


That Is Plenty Of Torque For Me.

The Only Difference With Diesel Engine It Has Earlier Torque Something Between 1000-2500Rpm
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QUOTE(siksa @ Nov 9 2008, 09:31 AM)
Engine

    Configuration — DOHC 24v V type 6 cylinder
    Code — 6A13TT
    Bore/stroke, capacity — 81.0 × 80.8 mm, 2498 cc
    Compression ratio — 8.5:1
    Fuelling — ECI-MULTI, premium unleaded fuel
    Peak power — 206 kW (280 PS) @ 5500 rpm
    Peak torque — 367 N·m (271 ft·lbf) @ 4000 rpm
That Is Plenty Of Torque For Me.

The Only Difference With Diesel Engine It Has Earlier Torque Something Between 1000-2500Rpm
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that's not a VR4 isnt? VR4 has only 4 pistons am I right? or VR4 has two version?
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QUOTE(siksa @ Nov 9 2008, 09:31 AM)
Engine

    Configuration — DOHC 24v V type 6 cylinder
    Code — 6A13TT
    Bore/stroke, capacity — 81.0 × 80.8 mm, 2498 cc
    Compression ratio — 8.5:1
    Fuelling — ECI-MULTI, premium unleaded fuel
    Peak power — 206 kW (280 PS) @ 5500 rpm
    Peak torque — 367 N·m (271 ft·lbf) @ 4000 rpm
That Is Plenty Of Torque For Me.

The Only Difference With Diesel Engine It Has Earlier Torque Something Between 1000-2500Rpm
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QUOTE(farique @ Nov 9 2008, 11:08 AM)
that's not a VR4 isnt? VR4 has only 4 pistons am I right? or VR4 has two version?
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lolz... vr4 what engine he also dunno... doh.gif doh.gif
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QUOTE(farique @ Nov 9 2008, 11:08 AM)
that's not a VR4 isnt? VR4 has only 4 pistons am I right? or VR4 has two version?
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3 version actually

1. 4g63t 2.0l
2. 6g12tt 2.0l
3. 6g13tt 2.5l


I am recommending 6g13tt because it has plenty of torque and gearbox is already 4wd not like 1jz/2jz which is rwd. smile.gif

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QUOTE(siksa @ Nov 9 2008, 01:23 PM)
3 version actually

1. 4g63t 2.0l
2. 6g12tt 2.0l
3. 6g13tt 2.5l
I am recommending 6g13tt because it has plenty of torque and gearbox is already 4wd not like 1jz/2jz which is rwd.  smile.gif
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not 6g12 ler.... v6 engines usually 6Axx....

besides, vr4 is the engine model... what u are saying is mitsubishi galant engine variants... the popular mitsubishi galant version is the vr4 engine....
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QUOTE(the_catacombs @ Nov 9 2008, 01:42 PM)
not 6g12 ler.... v6 engines usually 6Axx....

besides, vr4 is the engine model... what u are saying is mitsubishi galant engine variants... the popular mitsubishi galant version is the vr4 engine....
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My Bad. Wrong Code,Yes I mean The V6 one 6A12TT And 6A13TT. I Thought VR4 Is The Car Model. My Bad.

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vr4 is car model

the variant of vr4 meant for turbo charged galant. while vr-g/vr-m for normal aspirated galant.

i dont know much about mitsubishi duh..


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The sixth generation was also the first to see the introduction of the VR-4 variant, which was the basis for Mitsubishi's participation in the 1988–1992 World Rally Championships. The Galant's 4G63 two litre DOHC turbocharged engine and 4WD transmission was later adopted for the Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution with little modification, and would remain in production for fifteen years.
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the seventh generation VR-4 became a less overtly sporting vehicle, eschewing the old four-cylinder engine in favour of a smoother two litre V6 twin turbo. The four wheel drive transmission was retained. The VR-4 version was not imported to the United States.


*Perdana based on 7th Gen

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Mitsubishi opted to further develop the technology in its range-topping VR-4, which was now powered by an enlarged 2.5 L V6 twin turbo. The car featured either a conventional 5-speed manual or an advanced, self-learning 5-speed Tiptronic semi-automatic transmission known as "INVECS-II".


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Mitsubishi offered a high performance sports version Galant, code named VR-M, which shared the 6A12 engine found on the MITSUBISHI FTO GPX. It featured a 2.0 L, 24 valve MIVEC variable valve timing V6 engine, which produced 200 bhp@7500 rpm. The car was capable of 0-60 mph in 6.9 secs
sos..

another sos. same site...

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QUOTE(detomaso @ Nov 10 2008, 03:24 PM)
vr4 is car model

the variant of vr4 meant for turbo charged galant. while vr-g/vr-m for normal aspirated galant.

i dont know much about mitsubishi duh..
*Perdana based on 7th Gen
sos..

another sos. same site...
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TQ I Guess I was Right About The Model. smile.gif
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QUOTE(siksa @ Nov 10 2008, 05:41 PM)
TQ I Guess I was Right About The Model.  smile.gif
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Welcome . as what i recall when i do research for my daddy perdana v6. ya la. perdana gearbox problem u know.. haha. thinking off putting 2.5L V6TT with InvecsII, but end up my dad getting 7th gen civic.

can pass jpj endorsement or not for perdana putting in 25% more CC than ori spec. he he he.
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QUOTE(detomaso @ Nov 10 2008, 07:06 PM)
Welcome . as what i recall when i do research for my daddy perdana v6. ya la. perdana gearbox problem u know.. haha. thinking off putting 2.5L V6TT with InvecsII, but end up my dad getting 7th gen civic.

can pass jpj endorsement or not for perdana putting in 25% more CC than ori spec. he he he.
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err.... jpj didnt restrict 2.0L engine transplant into perdana... so, i guess 2.5L should be alrite... laugh.gif
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QUOTE(detomaso @ Nov 10 2008, 07:06 PM)
Welcome . as what i recall when i do research for my daddy perdana v6. ya la. perdana gearbox problem u know.. haha. thinking off putting 2.5L V6TT with InvecsII, but end up my dad getting 7th gen civic.

can pass jpj endorsement or not for perdana putting in 25% more CC than ori spec. he he he.
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QUOTE(the_catacombs @ Nov 10 2008, 08:57 PM)
err.... jpj didnt restrict 2.0L engine transplant into perdana... so, i guess 2.5L should be alrite...  laugh.gif
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by that not so restrictive la. even 1.3 saga can endorse 4g63t. year 2k. 8 years back. haha.
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QUOTE(detomaso @ Nov 11 2008, 05:04 PM)
by that not so restrictive la. even 1.3 saga can endorse 4g63t. year 2k. 8 years back. haha.
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u also know how to say 8 years back lah.. doh.gif
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u also know how to say 8 years back lah..  doh.gif
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that time the 2.5 v6tt halfcut mcm mao cari evo10 punya halfcut kinda rareeeeee...
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Hi guys, first post so bear with me ...

in regarding to the TS problem, i have 2 solutions which will be easy but yet slightly expensive ...

1) Upgrade with a 4M40-T Front cut, it will allow him to stay with diesel system and get a better powered pajero ...

2) Upgrade with a 6G72-TT FTO/Pajero Front Cut, this will convert ur pajero to petrol, its more powerful however bear in mind the fuel consumption, my company did it b4 for our company pajero and regretted since ... thank god someone bought it off our hands tongue.gif

3) Cheapest and fastest >> get a pajero turbo and a intercooler, slightly hard to find but its the fastest to get ur car back.
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Wow,you all guy are crazy,wanna to play with 1JZ in a Pajero???If i really want to play,i will sumbat a RB26 in there drool.gif

Ei don't forget that 1JZ are a Twin Turbo engine leh,it will Use the Petrol like Drinking water sad.gif

Later if i can get the complete set of the Intake Manifold,Banana Extractor,a bigger turbo(Something called TD06)or bigger if kena nombor ekor biggrin.gif ,a Big Intercooler as front of pajero are very wide(But scare JPJ Block) then the 4D56T will be very strong and Powerful!

Later a VR4 kena tapau by a 3Ton pajero and with a 4D56 Diesel engine,then the guy must be very malu wan laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

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QUOTE(Pajero 4D56 @ Jan 8 2009, 10:08 PM)
Wow,you all guy are crazy,wanna to play with 1JZ in a Pajero???If i really want to play,i will sumbat a RB26 in there drool.gif

Ei don't forget that 1JZ are a Twin Turbo engine leh,it will Use the Petrol like Drinking water sad.gif

Later if i can get the complete set of the Intake Manifold,Banana Extractor,a bigger turbo(Something called TD06)or bigger if kena nombor ekor biggrin.gif ,a Big Intercooler as front of pajero are very wide(But scare JPJ Block) then the 4D56T will be very strong and Powerful!

Later a VR4 kena tapau by a 3Ton pajero and with a 4D56 Diesel engine,then the guy must be very malu wan laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif
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rb26dett also twin turbo by stock if not mistaken...

why twin turbo use petrol like drinking water??... hmm.gif
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QUOTE(Pajero 4D56 @ Jan 8 2009, 10:08 PM)
Wow,you all guy are crazy,wanna to play with 1JZ in a Pajero???If i really want to play,i will sumbat a RB26 in there drool.gif

Ei don't forget that 1JZ are a Twin Turbo engine leh,it will Use the Petrol like Drinking water sad.gif

Later if i can get the complete set of the Intake Manifold,Banana Extractor,a bigger turbo(Something called TD06)or bigger if kena nombor ekor biggrin.gif ,a Big Intercooler as front of pajero are very wide(But scare JPJ Block) then the 4D56T will be very strong and Powerful!

Later a VR4 kena tapau by a 3Ton pajero and with a 4D56 Diesel engine,then the guy must be very malu wan laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif
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That Is Quiet Imposible


All I Ever Heard Of A Powerful Diesel Engine Is From Thailand


The Engine Is A Tuned 1KDFTV(3.0L) Toyota Engine,


VKC Motor Thailand Sport Version
Engine type: 1KD-FTE 3.0 inline 4 dohc vn T-25 twin turbo intercooler D4D commonrail
Engine capacity: 2982
Max Power: 195KW/266PS
Max torque: 645NM


They Put This In Drag Car Or Truck And Compete In Diesel Category.


1KDFTV TUNING


SPECIFICATION


Another One

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If I'm not mistaken, someone dump a 6G72TT from a GTO into a Storm once... complete with 4WD set-up... man, the truck is like a banshee...
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actually nowadays JPJ will pass or not if convert from petrol engine to diesel engine somemore difference 500 cc wor? i tot maximum is 200cc above ur original engine cc. and road tax also different rite, diesel engine higher road tax. i wonder wat will happen if use NGV with twin turbo petrol engine hmm.gif
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turbocharged NGV can... but ur valve seal kantoi fast... and ur ngv finish very fast as well... average 1 tank can last a normal petrol engine about 2xx km... turbocharge n boost all da way, 1xx km per tank lo...
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QUOTE(k!nex @ Feb 7 2009, 09:37 PM)
actually nowadays JPJ will pass or not if convert from petrol engine to diesel engine somemore difference 500 cc wor? i tot maximum is 200cc above ur original engine cc. and road tax also different rite, diesel engine higher road tax. i wonder wat will happen if use NGV with twin turbo petrol engine hmm.gif
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the offical statement is not more than 25%
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just bought a turbo diesel 2800cc pajero..auto transmission, this one come with turbo intercooler,but why mitsubishi didnt install turbo timer as standard? can the engine turned off immediately after i park the car?
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QUOTE(arfaie @ Feb 13 2009, 09:19 PM)
just bought a turbo diesel 2800cc pajero..auto transmission, this one come with turbo intercooler,but why mitsubishi didnt install turbo timer as standard? can the engine turned off immediately after i park the car?
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Turbo Timer Is Not A Standard Item You Have To Install Them Yourself And Yes You Can Turn Off Your Engine When Your Park.
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I quess i now had an budget until Rm 1000,can i do anything with those,i mean for the turbo kit,a TD04 or TD06,intake manifold,exhaust manifold and the boost sensor and the last are the intercooler,i see many pajero after switch to Turbo Diesel they change the Hood to the one that had Scoop ones,that cool notworthy.gif

Can RM 1000 solve these thing,if not can you give a price for me to budget about it whistling.gif

Thanks
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QUOTE(Pajero 4D56 @ Mar 16 2009, 08:53 PM)
I quess i now had an budget until Rm 1000,can i do anything with those,i mean for the turbo kit,a TD04 or TD06,intake manifold,exhaust manifold and the boost sensor and the last are the intercooler,i see many pajero after switch to Turbo Diesel they change the Hood to the one that had Scoop ones,that cool notworthy.gif

Can RM 1000 solve these thing,if not can you give a price for me to budget about it whistling.gif

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Not Enough You Need At Least Or More Than RM3000++

Turbo(RM700+)
Intercooler(RM300+)
Fuel Regulator(RM300+)
Manual Boost Controller(RM300+)
Custom Turbo Manifold(RM700+)
Wastegate(RM500??)
Metal Head Gasket(??)
Downpipe(??)
Exhaust(??)
Boost Meter(??)
Turbo Timer(??)

Excluding Showmanship(RM????)

BTW

No Need To Change The Hood Just Buy A Bolt On Scoop,Bolt It On The Hood And Drill Holes Under It And You Got Yourself A Hood With A Scoop.

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Turbo Timer Is Not A Standard Item You Have To Install Them Yourself And Yes You Can Turn Off Your Engine When Your Park.
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is it easy to DIY turbo timer? or need help from acc shop?
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plug in 1JZ lah, u won't regret it

my mechanic in bentong always does this swap to those 4wd vehicles, he owns a Jimny with RB20det and also 4wd, using it for extreme off road. Most of his customers are into extreme off road, so those cars are all RB or 1jz or 2jz conversions with 4wd gb. have u seen those big arse offroad tires spining?......all four of them!
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QUOTE(arfaie @ Apr 5 2009, 05:46 PM)
is it easy to DIY turbo timer? or need help from acc shop?
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I Never DIY turbo Timer Before But If You Want To Learn How To?Go To Acc Shop Ask Them To Install And Learn From Them.Dont Do It The First Time You Got It,You Might Do A Mistake.Unless You Know Car Wiring It Would Be Easy,As Long As There Is A Manual For It. smile.gif
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Thanks for the advice,but it's a diesel so not need fuel-regulator or custom exhaust manifold as it had a Turbo version already so i just need to get the turbo exhaust manifold and sold back the old ones to the kedai potong will get back some money too,the Injection Pump need replacement too to allow boost to control the amount of fuel injected to prevent running too lean or rich ,the Injection Pump on the engine right now is just overhauled by diesel specialist so it can exchanged too,i don't need to use aftermarket wastegate,i think i will buy a TD04 with internal wastegate and it's actuator together at kedai potong,i need the hood with scoop beacuse it need to blow air to the intercooler below it brows.gif

Petrol no matter how big it's horsepower it is only king of the road,but Diesel are have a benefit to produce a really huge torque at low-revs this is need to off-roading brows.gif

Have you see any tow truck or Kontena Lorry with petrol in it?

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how much horsepower can max out from the 4d56t engine?

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how can i increase 4d56t power to around 200hp?
Vervain
post Sep 16 2018, 12:35 PM

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You can. At the expense of reliability.

 

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