pvp guilds just bot/farm bgs till they get the marks/honour then they will go and arena till they out skill/out gear the oponent, if the pve item is REALLY good for pvp then they will make it an effort to get it or just pm their friends and trade arena points/ratings for pve gears.

i have a friend who has a shitty pc and crappy connection in sg he can play his rogue in blues(lvl 65-70) kara epics some za epics and greens he can own rogues that have s2-s3 and you know what is funny? his warlock quite high in jubei. and i know ppl with GREAT latency good pcs cant even do shiz masuk terus mati.