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post Jan 7 2009, 10:35 AM

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i saw Gateway's 24" 1900x1200 beside the renovating Viewnet Supercenter at Lowyat (notebook sumthing the shop name - can pengsan - EXTREMELY nice !! can connect to everything

got HDMI, DVI/Analogue, Component

priced at RM1680

go check - u sure pengsan see the 720p and 1080p demos much more nicer the the demos i see at any other shops warranty 1y only sadly

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no wonder

got branded video hardware upscaler sommore

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Engross yourself in high definition with optimum clarity, exceptional performance and super-fast 3 ms response time. And with Enhanced Video Processing through DCDi® by Faroudja, video and gaming has never looked better. Plus, this display is fully HDCP-compliant—a feature required by Blu-ray™ players. And with an impressive 1000:1 contrast ratio, gigantic 1920 x 1200 (2.3 megapixel) resolution and 1080p support, youll get the ultimate viewing experience.

http://www.gateway.com/programs/widescreen...topnav_displays

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post Jan 12 2009, 02:36 PM

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QUOTE(:3mushy:3 @ Jan 12 2009, 10:42 AM)
No, either one, it depends whether the 16:10 monitor has 1:1 pixel mapping or not. (if it has, means black bars, which in my opinion is better than a stretched display)

Just check with the salesperson when you are buying one, or you can google up about a particular model smile.gif
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u cannot 1:1 pixel map 16:9 to 16:10 or vice versa without interfering with the image data or losing some data! else you will see black bars 1080p video will have black bars - top and bottom - on a 16:10 screen!
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post Jan 13 2009, 03:57 PM

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QUOTE(kaiserreich @ Jan 12 2009, 12:15 AM)
I don't understand what are you talking about. 16:10 Monitors with 1:1 pixel mapping will display without distortion, 16:9 formatted movies and the ones without 1:1 pixel mapping will present distortion? Then it's obvious, too, that you've never used one, well, save that BenQ with the 1:1 pixel mapping.

Consoles aside, either I need new glasses, which I don't, or that 16:9 movies on 16:10 has absolutely no distortion whatsoever given the presence of black bars. What I trying to say is, on 16:10 monitors, if you stretch the show to the brim, then there will be distortion. If you set your media player to show black bars, then distortion will not occur. Using Media PLayer Classic, one could easily set any 16:9 show on a 16:10 to set to 'touch from inside' and the player will automatically set the show to display at its maximum size. In 16:9 case, the show will be upsized until the sides reach the end of the monitor and the vertical size will increase. But the player will ensure that the aspect ratio will be maintained.

Comparing 22", 16:10 vs 16:9 for a 16:9 show, both sizes are exactly the same. 22" 16:9's actual size is 21.6", and when a 16:9 show on a 16:10 monitor is maximized, the diagonal width is exactly the same as a 16:9 22" monitor.
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QUOTE(kaiserreich @ Jan 12 2009, 07:05 PM)
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Stop confusing people since you've never used a 16:10 monitor w/o 1:1 pixel mapping.
You are showing pics of what happens when a 16:9 show is fully stretched on a 16:10 monitor. At any rate, consoles aside, watching 16:9 formatted media files, through the computer will not present any distortion whatsoever, provided that you can set your media player program to show 2 black bars, on the top and the bottom. Whether the monitor has 1:1 pixel mapping or not is immaterial. The issue can be solve by a software solution, which is free.

Like I said earlier, the software in question is Media Player Classic, or any other program that can do the same. MPC can stretch your 16:9 formatted show to the maximum horizontal width of the monitor and keeping the aspect ratio intact.

1:1 pixel mapping should the concern of console users, since the scaler inside the monitor plays an important role. If you are playing a 16:9 show on a 16:10 monitor, it will present no distortion whatsoever, provided that it shows black bars. Whether or not it is an old technology is immaterial as well.
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QUOTE(ericpires @ Jan 12 2009, 10:59 AM)
So, its better to go for a lcd with the 1:1 pixel mapping?  smile.gif
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OMFG
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my 6yo samsung CRT can keep aspect ratio - what pixel mapping nonsense do you people need to prevent stretching on videos?

ur video will only stretch if you want it to!

name me a media player that stretch your video without you INSTRUCTING it too!

all current video players play video at the original aspect ratio.

therefore pixel mapping capability is a NONE ISSUE !!!!!


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post Jan 13 2009, 11:37 PM

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QUOTE(jason111785 @ Jan 13 2009, 06:07 PM)
The 1:1 pixel mapping is an issue to those that would want to use their 16:10 LCD for console (PS3/XBOX360).
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huh? you mean if i send PS3 video to my CRT monitor, the picture will be stretched to fit my non wide screen monitor?

it is funny that RM100 DVD players can send video properly to screens where as >RM1500 products cant!
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post Jan 13 2009, 11:44 PM

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QUOTE(:3mushy:3 @ Jan 13 2009, 11:41 PM)
PS3 has its own display setting for normal TV or widescreen, so if you plug in your box TV it will not use widescreen mode, but rather PAL or NTSC mode which is 4:3.
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by wide screen = you mean 16:9? What about 16:10 screens? It shows black bars top and bottom?
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post Jan 14 2009, 12:19 AM

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QUOTE(:3mushy:3 @ Jan 14 2009, 12:05 AM)
Both 16:9 and 16:10 are widescreen, but the 'true' recognized full HD is 16:9 (1920 x 1080).

Like the discussions earlier, for consoles on 16:10 monitor, it's either black bars or stretched image, depends on the monitor whether it has 1:1 pixel mapping or not flex.gif
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oh i see - then get the 16:9 one lah - cheaper and no need pixel mapping lol - games also almost 100% support 1080p wink.gif
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post Jan 14 2009, 08:50 AM

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QUOTE(:3mushy:3 @ Jan 14 2009, 12:05 AM)
Both 16:9 and 16:10 are widescreen, but the 'true' recognized full HD is 16:9 (1920 x 1080).

Like the discussions earlier, for consoles on 16:10 monitor, it's either black bars or stretched image, depends on the monitor whether it has 1:1 pixel mapping or not flex.gif
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oh i see - then get the 16:9 one lah - cheaper and no need pixel mapping lol - games also almost 100% support 1080p wink.gif


Added on January 14, 2009, 9:02 am
QUOTE(:3mushy:3 @ Jan 14 2009, 12:05 AM)
Both 16:9 and 16:10 are widescreen, but the 'true' recognized full HD is 16:9 (1920 x 1080).

Like the discussions earlier, for consoles on 16:10 monitor, it's either black bars or stretched image, depends on the monitor whether it has 1:1 pixel mapping or not flex.gif
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oh i see - then get the 16:9 one lah - cheaper and no need pixel mapping lol - games also almost 100% support 1080p wink.gif

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post Jan 15 2009, 12:25 PM

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GPU - wait for DX 11!
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post Jan 19 2009, 10:11 PM

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haha . thank you BenQ for coming out with 1080p 22" monitors - this makes absolute no sense for people to get 24" at RM1000 when they can get the 2" smaller screen at less than RM600 with same specs rclxms.gif rclxms.gif rclxms.gif rclxms.gif

Dell 24" at RM700 is just the start laugh.gif laugh.gif
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post Jan 20 2009, 08:31 PM

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QUOTE(Skylinestar @ Jan 20 2009, 07:00 PM)
16:10  u get black bars
16:9  u also get black bars

why? because most movies are 2.35:1
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16:10 - BIGGER black bars
16:9 - smaller black bars biggrin.gif
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post Feb 11 2009, 01:24 PM

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QUOTE(fantus @ Feb 11 2009, 12:27 PM)
Does anyone here own a Gateway FHD2401?
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lowyat got demo - near All IT. So purty you can faint just looking at the demos. got expensive video processor in the baby. <>RM1,600
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post Feb 16 2009, 08:42 AM

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the Processor requirement to play HD (or neccesarily 720p or 1080p or anything above standard definition) is single core 2.4gh. If you have a 2.4gh and a proper graphic card driver for you GPU (built in or other wise), you should not experience lag in playing HD. Processors newer than Intel Pentium (dual core processors for example) should have no problem playing HD vidoes even at 1.6gh
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QUOTE(rsangel @ Feb 16 2009, 08:59 AM)
mm.... my AMD 4800x2 , 2gb rams + build in gc, are not capable to play 1080p on my 40" LCD TV, what's the prob?
it can played smooth on my Dell 2409 are also a 1920x1080 res ..... i wonder why
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"not capable" what do you mean by that?

can see the picture but in slow motion but when running standard definition no problem at all?
try trouble shoot to see if the problem only affect 1080p. 720p okay?



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