Sapphire HD 4850X2 First Look & Tested

VR-Zone checked out the new Sapphire HD 4850X2 card and done some quick tests on it using the Core i7 / X58 platform. The cooler casing looks pretty nice and heatsinks beneath looks much like the Intel reference cooler. The air is drawn in by the dual fans and exhaust out from the top of the card (there is a hole at the top side of the cooler). This card is clocked at 625MHz for the core, 1000MHz for the memories and has 800x2 stream processors.

comes with 2GB DDR3 / 1GB DDR3 for each core

Price : Unknown















Review

3D Marks Vantage Performance


3D Marks Vantage EXTREME


Crysis Warhead 1600 X 1200 ( Enthusiast settings )


FarCry 2 1600 X 1200 ( Ultra High settings )


Source: http://www.vr-zone.com/articles/sapphire-h...ested/6157.html

This post has been edited by Ezonizs: Oct 29 2008, 10:48 PM

Thanks for information u should promoted to become staff

The GPU score looks pretty much same as my CF 4870+4850

how much is this GC?

RM 1k ++ maybe ?

probably . take it for example one HD4850 cost you about Rm625 ? X 2 = 625 X 2 + some PCB & the bridge chip = guest ....

Will it be the 2nd fastest gc in the world after 4870x2???

This post has been edited by owikh84: Oct 28 2008, 09:12 PM

HD4850 is i believe the best bang of the buck card.
now come HD4850X2, could it be the same also ?

outperform nvidia 280gt?

Not sure but I heard it's the 2nd fastest card in the world after 4870x2.
Source: PC.com handout.

My expected price for 4850x2:
4870x2/4870 X 4850 = RM1700/ RM900 X RM650 = RM1200+

Too pricey for a card unless consumer really wanted it.

Not pricey as u dont need to buy a CF mobo which cost rm1k for x38/x48 mobo.

wah pricey man,which is the first best GC in the world?

4850 CF and this 4850X2 almost the same preformance or 4850X2 is better?

Is 4850X2 better than 4870? If so price should be higher tan 4870 otherwise they'll just scrap off their 4870 then.

I dun think it will be below 4870 price range.

Exactly the same.

For sure 4850x2 & 4850 CF are better than 4870.

4850 cf will consume a lot of power compare to 4850x2

i like the design but its too long.. i think might got problem installing in normal atx casing..

Is that the ref cooler?

Nope,AMD gives freely to their AIB to design the cooler respectively.So thats not a reference cooler and i dont think it has too..
Sapphire make teh cooler like Intel Stock HSF

It should be as long as gtx 280 and 4870x2, unless they managed to shorten it (it is using GDDR3, not GDDR5 like 4870x2 anyway, maybe ).

GTX 280 has the same length as 4870x2 and 4850x2 is probably of the same length as well. Standard casing... I doubt buyers of this card has standard casing. Go measure it first however .

This would be the world's 2nd fastest card(best case scenario). 3rd would be gtx 280~~ and the list goes on.

This post has been edited by blindbox: Oct 28 2008, 10:50 PM

so later perhaps i believe we can see different coolers from different manufacturers.

This post has been edited by _707027_: Oct 28 2008, 10:47 PM

i read somewhere that AIB patner is freely to do their own design and the launch date for their 4850x2

it has 4 dvi out
awesome...
looking to buy 3870x2
now no need... can buy 4850x2...
going to have 4x22 inch later... atm i have 2x22 inch ^^

Yea..Starting from now,they may release anytime by now..
Gainward HD4850 X2 Golden Sample

it makes me more hard to sell my HD 3870 X2

Cooler design is quite attractive. twinturbo concept.

looks like i have to sell my 4870 and get this beast.

haha no offense bro, but u just dug your own grave by opening up this thread lol

oh no, time for an upgrade. hope the price will be less than 1k.

yah keep hoping bro. coz it's definitely not going to be less than 1k

wow. new card

err.. can i fit this card into lian-li pc-g7?.. for sum reason i see this card is longer than 4870x2 >_<

the bare 4850x2 card isn't the same card as the Sapphire's.
look at the edge of the pcie lane , 1 with pcb continues protruding out which may obstruct some caps. on the mobo.



should try the setup of a 30" with two 20" pivoted vert.'ly @ both sides

you don't need to. you won't notice the high frame rates changed to higher frame rates.
and also your cpu bottlenecking.

this card would cost around 399USD if I'm not wrong.

damn this card make me tempting to get

i tink this card price will stick between 4870 and 4870x2...

And different card lengths, as each AIB is free to design their own PCB.

Anyway, the card looks awesome, I wonder why people hate it so much just because the bottom looks like intel's stock cooler. It runs on 42C idle, which is great.

4850x2 will be faster than 4850 CF but the price is higher too...

I heard the 4850x2 price will be around RM 1400+

pretty cheap for GPU that outperform GTX 280 30% more

i would please to see this card compared side by side with 4850/4870
even now.. just a few gab left between front hdd
with some cables make them more packed...

I would say the price will be RM1200 or so.

i tot like 4870x2, it wil be cheaper than 4870 CF rite? This one should be less than 4850 CF la..

then, it should be less than 4870. Which is don't seems right.

lets take a look at HD4870 1GB price - RM1xxx

and HD4870X2 price - RM17xx

Im not sure about HD4850 1GB price (currently on market is 512MB), but the HD4850x2 price suppose to be cheaper than 2x HD4850 1GB price

According to guru3d.com, ATI said that the card will retail at usd350 - usd399, which is around rm1200 - rm1400..hope it'll worth the price..

399+markup+tax+shipping = 1.4k+xxx

PC hardware are not taxable stuff.

if 4870 1gb will it give better performance for crysis warhead?

for higher resolution, i'll believe, yes it is

also come with 2GB DDR3






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Look interesting. Should I wait for it? Or go ahead and buy 4870? And CF later.

Oh Yeah !!! Hot stuff for ATI fans... Nice job to ATI.

i had already waited for 4850x2 to come since July when i was first announced. but then i couldn't be bothered waiting any longer. so i got myself a pair of HIS 4850 IceQ Turbo for CF

This post has been edited by metsatsu: Oct 29 2008, 11:47 PM

the price will be slightly fall behind GTX280. Seems logical, but the GTX280 be more appeal than 4850X2 if the price isn't far.

I dunno, the ability to use 24x AA while still being extremely playable is much better than framerates themself.

And I'm still counting on the 4850X2 to win if drivers are good enough.

can i CF my 4870 and a 4830 izit possible? both cards are not same type?

4830 not recommended.


4850 + 4870, still wasting the 4870's potential by some extent.

meaning that if i pair my 4870 with 4850 my 4870 have to follow the speed of the 4850 izit?

Thinking when only nvidia will strike back with performance meet cheap price card.

Boring if keep seeing Ati pawning Nvidia LOL

Any way, good work by ATI for this have Non CF able mobo user

nvidia need to cater heat issue also...

wanna ask smtg,dis 4850X2 if use wif PCI-e 1.0 will drop how many % performance compare to PCI-e 2.0?
i play at 1280X1024 ressolution,with or without AA also can. i play games like lost planet, race driver:grid, need for speed series,juiced 2.i dun play crysis.

i'm using a 8800gt wif a P35 mobo. feel like wanna upgrade but scared my PCI-E 1.0 bottleneck dis 4850X2 by large margin.

This post has been edited by k!nex: Oct 30 2008, 03:35 PM

PCIE 1.0 is not an issue.

I've a Gigabyte P35 mobo too, PCIE 1.1.

With a 4850, i run all my games at 1680 x 1050 with MAX SETTINGS....race driver grid, DMC4, Gears of War, C&C Tiberium War, Mass Effect etc.

Smooth as butter.

Why still stick at 1280 x 1024 with no AA???

wah..new gc
when will arrive in Malaysia..?
should i CF my 4850 or just wait for this card ...?
(need advice..)

i guess x2 is better than CF coz if CF sure got some bottlenecks.

Ya,agree...There's more energy consumption for cf as well...

Should I merge this thread with the HD4xxx discussion? Because I dont think there is a need for opening a HD4xxx x2 thread when there is already a thread discussing the HD4xxx series.

Wait until the card arrives Malaysia 1st then only merge this thread bro.

Let's see... 10~20% performance loss if crossfire potential is shown to the max. PCI-E 1.0/1.1 DOES matter. We're talking about 2 GPUs through one slot here, so pci-e 1.0 x16 should be bottlenecking it.If I am right, one 4850 should consume the bandwidth of say.. pci-e 2.0 x6 or pci-e 1.0 x12. Hence, 4850x2 would need pci-e 2.0 x12 OR pci-e 1.1 x24(WHICH DOES NOT EXISTS).

pci-e 1.0 x16=pci-e 2.0 x8
pci-e 1.0 x32(IF it exists)=pci-e 2.0 x16... you get the picture.

If you don't get the picture, pci-e 2.0 has twice the bandwidth of pci-e 1.0.

pci-e 1.0 x16 might not bottleneck a 4850 but it sure would bottleneck a 4850x2.

However, rarely do people do reviews(or at least performance charts) regarding pci-e 1.1 and pci-e2.0. The one I found were on 4870x2 on pci-e 1.1 and pci-e 2.0 and that was the only one I found.

Well, the good thing is, you can be our lab rat then . You'll need a new mobo eh?

What do you mean by bottleneck?? If you're talking about CPU bottleneck, you need the same amount of CPU power to power up a 4850x2 or a 4850 CF. It's the number of GPUs that matter, not the number of PCBs. If you're talking about bus link length... the difference is unnoticeable(dude the difference is just going to be 1 fps or something)


EDIT: Don't get mad at me if I say pci-e 1.0 and 1.1 interchangeably, the fact remains that pci-e 2.0 has twice the bandwidth of those two.


EDIT2:Hmm... I think we should be seeing pci-e 3.0 in 1 year's time?

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Added on October 31, 2008, 6:16 pmIf you did merge the thread on R700 (4870x2) thread with the discussion, then I guess this is mergeable. However, we should bear in mind that there's an 8800gt thread out there, solely for 8800gt and 9800gt.. then again they are famous (r700 thread not so famous). Either this is merged or we create a 4850x2 discussion thread and merge it with that.

This post has been edited by blindbox: Oct 31 2008, 06:16 PM

It's low profile version ? so cute sia muakss

http://www.vr-zone.com/articles/sapphire-h...ted/6157-2.html




vr-zone testbench runs on air-cond room?

This post has been edited by pikacu: Nov 4 2008, 12:06 AM

This thing is on sale in US already..USD409.40 = RM1460 more or less..

https://www.ewiz.com/detail.php?name=AT-485X2_2#

And this card beats GTX280 on farcry2 and mostly on par in crysis too..

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2008/11/0...d-4850-x2-2gb/1

This post has been edited by ReeNz: Nov 7 2008, 12:00 PM

Anyway, this card is already out on the market(like everyone said). The reviews are there too. Try techpowerup(HOWEVER, they have a VERY strange result for COD4. COD4 is very xfire optimized(I checked using several websites), and beats gtx280 hands down, yet it doesn't, even the 4870x2 doesn't). Elitebastards should have the review for this too.

Overclocking looks good, they oc'ed it to 750+/1100+. http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Sapphir...4850_X2/29.html

Still, 70C on non stock cooler for load(people usually do 60C right?)? Doesn't sound too good. But then, this gpu can handle up to 90C anyway, so there is still a lot more headroom to try for 800+ core clock

EDIT: I've found the reason why techpowerup's review is kind of unreliable. They're using P35, which uses PCI-e 1.0/1.1, which isn't a very good motherboard when it comes to 2 RV770 core on one PCB (and gtx 280 I suppose).

This post has been edited by blindbox: Nov 8 2008, 09:20 PM

waaa...when it will come out?better change to this sh!t than planning to cf

if u cf it will be cheaper bro...
1k+ only...
quite good...
1460+markup? = 1.5k+ keke

they price this x2 abit too high.

if you have a CF board, just do CF and and you got extra 200 bucks for something else

True. Do CF better, P45 is getting cheap. The only time you need 2x pci-e 2.0 x16 is when you SLI gtx280 or CFX 4870x2 ~_~. I thought this thing would be a gtx 280 killer, with low price and all. Looks like it isn't (oh well, it is made by sapphire, not by amd themselves).

Tempting for an upgrade.

4850X2 + Deneb Black Edition, on a Micro-ATX.

4850x2 is the longest graphic card ever made though(I'm not sure about the voodoo series(especially when SLIed), which is also pretty damn long) . I'm waiting for some other review site to review this card, sigh.

The score are not much diff from CF 4850...
But i still looking forward to it.... got to get some free space for my case.

This post has been edited by FoxNope: Nov 12 2008, 09:30 AM

My case is ATX, and probably maxes out at 8800GTX length.

I'd take some measurements first though.

im affarid that other manufacture will not produced hd4850x2 cause ati give this product only for sapphire.

Source? Aren't all manufacturers allowed to build their 4850x2?

All Manufacturer are free to built.Unless they dont want to build/make it.

i was wondering how to cool down the temperature , looking forward a good heatsink replace a stock cooler , i might be interested ..

sapphire 4850x2 already have good heatsink...their temp kinda nice too

This post has been edited by pikacu: Nov 12 2008, 03:32 PM

Answer:Enzotech Copper Sink + 2x MCW60R or Dtek Fuzion V2 GFX or EK GFX Supreme

nie kena beli berapa harga dia

any news on this product? ^^

some rumors said that is was about RM1.4-1.5k...

wit tat price..better CF for those who pokai...
smallest difference isit?

i guess for normal 4850x2 shud b priced slightly lower than CF 4850(jz like normal 4870x2), mayb RM1k? RM1.4k are those wif custom coolers...

Yea, it's cheaper to just SLI oops, crossfire. P45 are getting cheaper these days.

This post has been edited by blindbox: Dec 2 2008, 11:46 PM

think the price should be around 2 4850 plus 100-200...normally.
this card can beat n280 rite?should be one of the bang for buck for x2 card

aiyaaa.... my PSU....

somebody sell me a high power PSU lar... i want this 4850x2 !!

So... where is this 4850x2? Swept under the carpet edi...

buy..when this 4850x2 goes to our market??

maybe after krismas i think..

This post has been edited by krizalid88: Dec 4 2008, 03:30 PM