It could be that your lack of established front men means playing a 4-5-1 is not just a matter of choice.
English Clubs Tottenham Hotspur F.C. - Audere est Facere, EL: Spurs 1 - 0 Rubin FT
English Clubs Tottenham Hotspur F.C. - Audere est Facere, EL: Spurs 1 - 0 Rubin FT
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Oct 27 2008, 06:29 PM
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It could be that your lack of established front men means playing a 4-5-1 is not just a matter of choice.
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Oct 27 2008, 07:10 PM
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I do not believe that Spurs will be relegated and I expect them to finish midtable this season. I've always had a soft spot and used to follow you lot a little back in the day. I remember seeing Eric Thorstvedt in goal with Gary Mabbut in front of him. Gazza was bossing the midfield providing ammunition to Gary Lineker. I also used to enjoy watching David Ginola play. He was to me one of the best wingers in the world at the time.
Aside from the obvious lack of frontmen, there isn't any steel in midfield. This was evident the moment Michael Carrick and Edgar Davids left. Teemu Tainio provided some muscle in that department but now it's left solely to Zakora to put in the crunching challenges. Also Ledley King has been missing and Michael Dawson hasn't matured into the player many hoped he would when he was a promising young un and Nottingham Forest. This post has been edited by Duke Red: Oct 27 2008, 07:11 PM |
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Oct 28 2008, 02:46 PM
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Do you lot gather for games? I've heard that the unofficial viewing joint is Orange in Desa Sri Hartamas. If you don't already go there perhaps you may want to check it out.
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Oct 30 2008, 12:09 PM
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I first mentioned Appiah's name after the last World Cup and was wondering when someone else would see how talented his is. He ran Nigeria's midfield together with Essien and excelled. He is also a vastly experienced player having also played for Juventus before. I don't however see him as a terrier type player but rather a maestro in midfield, orchestrating play.
See you this Sunday, I'm sure you'll be a handful with your newfound confidence but we are on a high of our own. Torres may return this weekend for us and I'm hoping he'll give your troubled back four some trouble, and can take advantage of Gomes' indifferent start to life in the Prem. It will be a case of one of the best defences in the league playing against one of the worst attacks in the league at the moment. Liverpool and Chelsea both have 5 clean sheets this season while Spurs have only scored 7 goals, ranked 19th in the league. I'm sure the statistics won't mean anything though given that you've already scored 6 in two games under Harry. The one positive for us is that you've also conceded 4 last night. I'm expecting us to control the midfield with Alonso in boss form, supported by Gerrard and possibly Mascherano. I do however foresee Aaron Lennon giving Aurelio or Dossena a torrid time. Here are the opinions of a a few Tottenham lads from London: » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « |
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Oct 30 2008, 12:30 PM
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Oct 30 2008, 12:51 PM
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He played for Fenerbache, not exactly a financial powerhouse.
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Oct 30 2008, 02:45 PM
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I was watching the replay just then as I was having lunch in TGIF @ the Curve. What a goal from Bentley. Has to be the goal of the season so far.
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Oct 30 2008, 04:30 PM
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You won't see many goals like the one Bentley scored. He didn't even need a run up and look at the power he generated. Reminds me of the goal one of your left backs scored a few seasons ago, can't remember his name for the life of me. He was Scandanavian or something.
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Oct 30 2008, 05:10 PM
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QUOTE(syklspurs @ Oct 30 2008, 05:04 PM) hmm guys, it was erik edman..swedish international.. that's him! good memory. super strike it was.it was against liverpool that time.. lolz..maybe another super goal dis weekend?? oh well..goals like dat are rare. COYS! This post has been edited by Duke Red: Oct 30 2008, 05:10 PM |
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Oct 30 2008, 05:20 PM
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Edman had time to take aim before getting his shot off but unlike in Bentley's case, Dudek was close to his line. The ball floated upwards, just sneaking inside the post. Bentley's strike was amazing but Almunia was off his line a little. Still, he managed to generate a good deal of power.
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Nov 1 2008, 06:47 PM
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QUOTE(blackcode @ Nov 1 2008, 04:42 PM) Goodluck..beating liverpool will surely be the best thing that ever happen for this season for the team Better than beating London rival Arsenal? Chelsea? Well I suppose beating us will be the first step and it should be an interesting encounter given that both teams are high on confidence now. |
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Nov 2 2008, 12:11 PM
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Inspired substitutions by Harry made the difference in the end. We paid the price for not converting our chances during the 10 minute spell we had when we twice his the post, while Kuyt and Alonso both went just wide with the goal gaping in front of them. Football is a cruel game and when you don't take things that come your way, you pay for it as we did. One wonders why Harry didn't start with 2 up front in the first place. Am i surprised by the result? No. Disappointed for sure but not surprised. I am surprised though that there seem to be more Man Utd and Chelsea fans posting here after such a significant win. Seems all the rivalry and hostility from last season has been forgotten.
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Nov 2 2008, 01:33 PM
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To what do we attribute his mini "revival"? King has returned but not much else has changed. Harry Redknapp saw that Kuyt was winning headers and that they were lacking numbers up-front and made the necessary adjustments, credit to him. He didn't wait until the traditional 60th or 70th minute mark to ring in the changes. Do I think he is a tactical genius? To be honest, I do not. I think his strength is that his players like him and they want to do well for him. Juande Ramos did not have the same connection with the players. To be realistic, Spurs were outplayed for large portions of the match but the difference is that they had that extra bit of energy and urgency.
I'm not taking any credit away because as I have said before, I've followed the team for some time now and I've a really nice friend who is a Spurs fans, and who joins us for Liverpool games. He sent me a message this morning and to be honest, I am happy for him. Sadly it had to be at our expense but I'm hoping that Spurs do well. |
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Nov 2 2008, 06:34 PM
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QUOTE(syklspurs @ Nov 2 2008, 03:09 PM) the way we played last night was indeed, liverpool deserved to win. Didn't notice the deflection even after watching the replay. It wasn't really at Gomes' nearpost. From what I remember it went in over him, into the top corner of the far post.but to me, harry is a great manager. ramos too. but harry has always been famous for his man management skills. no manager would make drastic changes after the half time or early in the game. most managers would study the gameplay and that is exactly how harry changed the game after 60 or 70 minutes. he switched corluka's position and we were seriously unlucky with the first goal. defensive lapse is our mistake but see carefully and u'll notice kuyt's shot took a deflection which explains why gomes is beaten near post. nonetheless, we're off the bottom. we drew against chelsea, arsenal and beat liverpool so far. something we have to be proud of. COYS! |
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Nov 3 2008, 04:01 PM
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QUOTE(ban45 @ Nov 2 2008, 02:57 PM) Hey guys...You wanna see something interesting??? Hardly surprising given that they are your biggest rivals. Remember the hostility during the Sol Campbell saga? Go into Arsenal thread and you will see they are thankful for us winnning against Liverpool Chelsea fans are in here just because they are back on top. They'd be flooding Wycombe Wanderer's thread if they were the ones that beat us |
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Nov 3 2008, 04:05 PM
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Nov 4 2008, 03:33 PM
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QUOTE(gry @ Nov 4 2008, 12:49 AM) For me, it hard to see Bent and Pav playing together. Their playing style quite similar. What we need right now decent LEFT WINGER because we already got best right winger (bentley). I don't know about Bent. He had a good season with Charlton but many players have suffered the feared 2nd season hangover and have never lived up to early promise. It says something that Bent was only 4th choice after failing to impress and selected behind Berbatov, Keane and Defoe. I like the way Harry used Modric. Free role for him because Huddlestone look solid at DM. We have good balance in our team right now. More importantly for me, Modric is yet to fit into the team. He's best playing behind two forwards but has been largely forced to play further up front in the 2nd strikers role. I think he works best behind two frontmen in a 4-4-2 but given that you have only two recognised strikers, it's risky to keep playing them both and risk losing either one of them or both to fatigue or injury. QUOTE(billneedme @ Nov 4 2008, 03:15 PM) Sorry just suddenly remember that one of my fren told me before that actually all games and result are under control by someone... This is highly speculative. I gather your friend is indicating that games are fixed and truth be told, it's not completely unbelievable. Premiership players are paid highly for a reason, so that they do no give in to bribery and corruption. The last time I remember players being charged for match fixing, John Fashanu, Bruce Grobbelar and Hans Segers were accused to have been in cahoots with a MALAYSIAN businessman. Having said that players are paid so much more these days, you'd like to think that match fixing is kept at a minimal. It's also another reason I feel that referees have to paid more handsomely. As it is they get paid what? 800 pounds a game? Funny?? If what they said is make sense, is that bcoz now EPL wan to attract more audiences... and make the games seems more competitive..?? Not like past few years... only the big 4 play win and others.....just wondering... haha... Many leagues in the world has been plagued by corruption with the Serie A and Serie B being the most high profile, involving giants like Juventus, Fiorentina, AC Milan, Lazio and Reggina. Then there is also the Chinese and South American leagues but I don't want to stray too far off topic. |
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Nov 5 2008, 02:12 PM
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QUOTE(ihawk98 @ Nov 5 2008, 01:46 PM) One of the best keepers in the league over the past few seasons if you ask me. Playing behind dodgy defences hasn't helped his cause. Steve Harper is a decent keeper and for Given to have kept him on the bench all these years proves how consistent he is. Poor bloke had to play behind both Titus Bramble and Jean-Alain Boumsong for a whole season! |
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Nov 20 2008, 02:47 PM
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QUOTE(billneedme @ Nov 20 2008, 01:41 AM) Actually anybody know the history of Gomes? He said that because the other goalkeeper in the squad is 37 year told Cesar Sanchez who has had a mediocre career. Gomes was a fan favourite at PSV and unlike with Spurs, was a reliable keeper which sparked interest from English clubs. I really have no opinion as to why he's struggling here though. I mean until Ledley King returned, Spurs were not doing very well defensively but still, he has shown really low concentration levels.As Harry said he is the only keeper they can rely heavily.. so he will do anything tht can bring the best form of him...(Like sacked the GK coach) Now i wonder how best he could?? |
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