QUOTE(the_catacombs @ Oct 28 2008, 09:27 PM)
oh ok thanks... then maybe both kena change ediwira top overhaul, estimatted cost?
wira top overhaul, estimatted cost?
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QUOTE(cheeann @ Oct 29 2008, 12:12 AM) hahah... think I could find any trace of leaking (fuh!)Sometimes my car got steady white smoke. so consulted a friend who is also a mech in Putra Heights, he said might as well try change valve seal 1st, see if it solves the problemo... I will pick up my car in 2 days time to see the results. This post has been edited by usus: Oct 30 2008, 10:43 AM |
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overheating, check the water pump got leak or not ... the last time i spent RM$700 for a mechanic to solve my overheating problem, he never check my water pump ... end up is the water pump leak and i have no water for cooling the engine
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Go to a car wash centre, tell them to shoot water at the bottom until kilat bersih, no kilat nevermind, lulz!. Drive for 2 days, go to your mech shop, he will then know what is the actual problem. To see where the oil is leaking from. This is the first thing you must do.
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QUOTE(SleeplessEyes @ Oct 26 2008, 06:04 PM) Where you guys quote it RM 300-400? It's really cheap, cause my friend did top-overhaul on his Nissan, cost him RM 900 hi, how do you know its valve tappet sound? My car seems gt the similar situation, when I am driving beyond 80kmh, the soft tak tak sound can be heard....I am just thinking of doing top overhaul for my Nissan Sunny too No blue smoke, but valve tappet is making loud "tat tat tat" noises around 2000-2500RPM.Only can be heard outside. Otherwise the car's engine still can do wonders in power. |
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Oct 14 2017, 12:37 PM
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QUOTE(delsoo @ Oct 14 2017, 11:19 AM) hi, how do you know its valve tappet sound? My car seems gt the similar situation, when I am driving beyond 80kmh, the soft tak tak sound can be heard.... just wana say, the tappeting sound is not a good indication of ANYTHING other than the valve clearances lari (and frankly it can lari very easily without causing any issues...) if u really wana diagnose oil loss issues... take note of whats coming out of your pipe in different conditions (e.g. valve seals, spew smoke during heavy deceleration where theres a vacuum pulling the oil in through the seals, constant smoke, possiby more during higher rpm's - rings)even better would be to do a comp test or maybe even check ur plugs (visual check tells you alooot) |
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QUOTE(lsm1991 @ Oct 14 2017, 12:37 PM) just wana say, the tappeting sound is not a good indication of ANYTHING other than the valve clearances lari (and frankly it can lari very easily without causing any issues...) if u really wana diagnose oil loss issues... take note of whats coming out of your pipe in different conditions (e.g. valve seals, spew smoke during heavy deceleration where theres a vacuum pulling the oil in through the seals, constant smoke, possiby more during higher rpm's - rings) No colored smoke noticed, no oil stains on plug.. What's the problem that cause oil loss?even better would be to do a comp test or maybe even check ur plugs (visual check tells you alooot) |
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QUOTE(delsoo @ Oct 14 2017, 12:15 PM) i noticed this issue for awhile already , didnt bother it . But , now the oil lost is getting serious . My odo is 230k now At 230K odo with a bit of tik tak sound, as suggested by lsm , it's likely valve clearance lari .........in particular when no valve adjustment was ever done on this engine, ever. One doesn't have to remove cylinder head to adjust valve clearance by competent mechanics and it involves only replacing gasket for valve cover .......... and I don't call this as 'top overhaul' which equates to more $$$. As for coloured smoke , it is quite difficult to 'see' with untrained eyes and it may be wise to refer to an honest mechanics. Btw, what's the oil brand/viscosity grade/API ACEA specs that this engine has been using before and during oil consumption occurs ? This post has been edited by zeng: Oct 14 2017, 01:07 PM |
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Oct 14 2017, 01:08 PM
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QUOTE(delsoo @ Oct 14 2017, 12:40 PM) how much are you loosing? only 2 other ways it can be lost (tho im quite sure its being burnt, maybe in quantities too small ot notice or only when ur moving at speed)i)leaks, should be quite obvious ii)ur screwed and its going into your coolant... you should find oil in ur coolant (honestly unlikely cause it should be everywhere at that point) |
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Oct 14 2017, 01:22 PM
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QUOTE(lsm1991 @ Oct 14 2017, 01:08 PM) how much are you loosing? only 2 other ways it can be lost (tho im quite sure its being burnt, maybe in quantities too small ot notice or only when ur moving at speed) About 40% according to the observation on dipstick...i)leaks, should be quite obvious ii)ur screwed and its going into your coolant... you should find oil in ur coolant (honestly unlikely cause it should be everywhere at that point) |
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QUOTE(zeng @ Oct 14 2017, 01:06 PM) At 230K odo with a bit of tik tak sound, as suggested by lsm , it's likely valve clearance lari ......... I am not sure as I am not the direct owner of this car... I only used Castrol 15w40, 20w50 and nasa 20w50.. With nasa, I can feel the car response is better... Not much different between Castrol 20w50 and 15w40in particular when no valve adjustment was ever done on this engine, ever. One doesn't have to remove cylinder head to adjust valve clearance by competent mechanics and it involves only replacing gasket for valve cover .......... and I don't call this as 'top overhaul' which equates to more $$$. As for coloured smoke , it is quite difficult to 'see' with untrained eyes and it may be wise to refer to an honest mechanics. Btw, what's the oil brand/viscosity grade/API ACEA specs that this engine has been using before and during oil consumption occurs ? |
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QUOTE(zeng @ Oct 14 2017, 01:06 PM) At 230K odo with a bit of tik tak sound, as suggested by lsm , it's likely valve clearance lari ......... I am not sure as I am not the direct owner of this car... I only used Castrol 15w40, 20w50 and nasa 20w50.. With nasa, I can feel the car response is better... Not much different between Castrol 20w50 and 15w40in particular when no valve adjustment was ever done on this engine, ever. One doesn't have to remove cylinder head to adjust valve clearance by competent mechanics and it involves only replacing gasket for valve cover .......... and I don't call this as 'top overhaul' which equates to more $$$. As for coloured smoke , it is quite difficult to 'see' with untrained eyes and it may be wise to refer to an honest mechanics. Btw, what's the oil brand/viscosity grade/API ACEA specs that this engine has been using before and during oil consumption occurs ? |
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QUOTE(zeng @ Oct 14 2017, 01:06 PM) At 230K odo with a bit of tik tak sound, as suggested by lsm , it's likely valve clearance lari ......... I am not sure as I am not the direct owner of this car... I only used Castrol 15w40, 20w50 and nasa 20w50.. With nasa, I can feel the car response is better... Not much different between Castrol 20w50 and 15w40in particular when no valve adjustment was ever done on this engine, ever. One doesn't have to remove cylinder head to adjust valve clearance by competent mechanics and it involves only replacing gasket for valve cover .......... and I don't call this as 'top overhaul' which equates to more $$$. As for coloured smoke , it is quite difficult to 'see' with untrained eyes and it may be wise to refer to an honest mechanics. Btw, what's the oil brand/viscosity grade/API ACEA specs that this engine has been using before and during oil consumption occurs ? |
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Oct 14 2017, 03:05 PM
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For a wira dipstick , that 40 % means 0.4 L.
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Mine consume around 250-300ml, top up once app. 4000+km then around 8000+km it will drop to the middle/slightly below mark on the dip stick and its time to change to new oil. Any concern that i should note or rectify. Tq
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