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patryn33
post Dec 24 2009, 12:27 PM

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QUOTE(friedricetheman @ Dec 24 2009, 10:27 AM)
There was a picture of him in the Star newpaper not too long ago wearing the Vulcain.
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really didn't catch that pic.. anything u found posted online some where?

did some googling and found he was presented the Tissot T-Touch Expert Swiss Watch too
http://www.chronocentric.com/forums/heuer/...ames;read=31840

the back of the watch certainly look great!
http://www.luxist.com/2009/08/04/barack-ob...ry-heart-watch/
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post Jan 13 2010, 04:00 AM

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QUOTE(friedricetheman @ Jan 12 2010, 12:44 PM)
I was thinking of buying a T-Touch Expert but need to know whether if I can get it wet (eg. swimming or water sports). They should fix their WR problem instead of jacking up the prices with every new model.  vmad.gif
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didn't these guys helped u out?
http://forums.watchuseek.com/showthread.php?t=149995

was flipping thru old mag and found this.
http://www.watchbizz.com/archive/wt_2007_0...2007_05_066.pdf
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WATER-RESISTANCE: A FEW THINGS TO KNOW

The watch industry commonly measures levels of water-resistance in feet or meters
(equivalent to approximately 3.3 feet). Two other measures are sometimes used: ATM (for
atmospheres) and bars. One ATM and one bar are equivalent to 10 meters/330 feet.
The level of watch water-resistance indicated on a watch dial or caseback does not refer to
the depths at which a diver can wear a watch under water. It is a theoretical measure of
the depth at which a watch will keep out water if both the watch and the wearer are motionless.

In real life, the movement of the wearer’s arm through the water generates additional
pressure on the watch. Keep in mind that a watch’s specified water-resistance level
is the result of tests conducted in a laboratory, not in the ocean.

For water sports, the following minimum levels of water-resistance are recommended:
*30 meters/100 feet: Sailing, boating, fishing
*50 meters/165 feet: Swimming
*100 meters/330 feet: Snorkeling and surfing
*200 meters/660 feet: Skin diving and scuba diving
Professional deep water divers use watches with water-resistance of 1,000 meters/3,333
feet or more.

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post Jan 13 2010, 09:34 PM

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QUOTE(friedricetheman @ Jan 13 2010, 04:40 PM)
The WR ratings are done in lab conditions and are not standardised. Every company will perform their own testings and so, a 100m WR watch from one company will have different tolerance than the 100m WR watch from another company.

Treat the WR ratings as only a guideline.
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hmm... well well, its just their recommendation.
I wouldn't take 100m WR watch for a swim esp without screw in crown.. for those didn't bring their in to check gasket. its a problem
200m only swim or skin diving.
not a deep diver myself can't say anything.

Indeed every Co do their own testing. some may not test every watch they make, just randomly select few to test in air pressure tank.
I guess swiss quality means jack Sh*t, quality always == to how much one pays right? tongue.gif
just come across a company, the WR ratings is ISO rating meaning.. if its rated 30m its can go 30m.
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post Jan 26 2010, 11:39 AM

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QUOTE(LAEDIDEAL @ Jan 25 2010, 03:47 PM)
Anyone ever heard of this Italian brand?
http://www.breraorologi.com/

Juast Bought this one as per-above... tongue.gif
http://www.watchwear.com/brera-orologi/BRMLC5007/

Haven't received it yet though............. Hopefully if will arrived as per schedule this wednesday...
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My first "Luxury" watch.. hahahah.... "Luxury" for me la... 
US$700! for a quartz that is possibly Japanese more like Citizen!!!!
thats really Luxury. even I would not spend that sort of $$

with US$700 can get a nice Hamilton... with quartz can get Ebel!

even those funky big watch with Pam or B&R look from german/Swiss also cost under US$700.

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post Jan 27 2010, 11:05 AM

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miyota JS50 itself cost ~US$23.
good discount as in 50-80% off retail?
I am sure its a unique item.

+1 on ck77 comment.. most impt u like it!
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post Feb 1 2010, 11:14 AM

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QUOTE(friedricetheman @ Feb 1 2010, 03:54 AM)
Put it this way, an ETA Valjoux 7750 ebauche cost $200 but the Ball Trainmaster Pulsemeter (non-cosc), which is fitted with a 7750 is going for RM7500. But among us WIS, Ball watches are still comparatively cheap. How do you explain that?  smile.gif

It's not only the watch movement that determines the pricing but other factors like the level of finishing, brand recognition, and marketing. Take Rolex, for instance. We all know Rolex produce their own in-house movements. But did you know that the 3310 hasn't changed at all since the 80s. So, why are we paying inflated prices for essentially a 20 year old movement? Again, it's the brand recognition and marketing. A rolex today isn't much different from a rolex 10 years ago. The only difference now is that they use silicon main springs and kif shock absorbers. Two minor tweaks and they increased their prices by more than double? Where's the logic in that? Would you buy a rolex now after what I have told you?

Take it from someone who has been in the watch industry for way too long.
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come on man... ppl talking about quartz here.... what kind of finishing here?
use a fashion brand such as DKNY, Kenneth Cole, EA, Diesel or a little known fashion brand as such above that use a quartz movement to make the argument statement.

yes there are much going in to determine the price of the watch not just the cost of the movement.
on top the level of finishing on the movement, on the case etc.. quality of leather, QC (testing/regulating) , marketing, brand recognition really? among those in the industry right? not with lay ppl walking on the streets..
U also forget the operating cost, labor (all the neat bonus the CEO/COO/CFO), R&D cost etc..
having worked in The States for a long time and now locally, U may get a tour of the Rolex facility. interview the Tom and d*** there to comprehend their justification.

having working in US for sometime should teach U one impt thing, never just take it from blindly from anyone.. not even your MIT/Harvard Prof.
Human for crying out loud.. not God.
felt like listening to those grandpa... "been on the Earth for so long, just take it from old joe"

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QUOTE(ck77 @ Feb 9 2010, 05:40 PM)
Really? If that the case, then we should go for Swatch Group Thailand  rclxm9.gif
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QUOTE(friedricetheman @ Feb 10 2010, 12:37 PM)
Yeah. Why not? I've never dealt with Swatch Group thailand (if there is one, that is) so I don't know what their pricing are like.

Btw, you don't have to be such a smart pants about it. I'm just relaying my experiences with Rolex Singapore so if you are not interested, just keep your post to yourself. You don't have to post a sarcastic remark like that to discredit me.
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OMG... experience with Rolex SG how to use that on Swatch Group... different entity may function differently too.
so with Rolex, I guess go Thailand is cheaper. *** thinking out Loud ***

BTW: ck77 just stating the facts what... whats wrong with that? don't like ppl to discredit U? ego too big? sweat.gif



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QUOTE(goldilocks @ May 16 2010, 10:24 PM)
How long did RSC take to do that?
My new rolex was sent back a month ago and I was just found out i can only get it back in two months time, that means they're taking 3 months to get the problems fixed. The watch's only 4 months old.

I sent it through the AD where I bought the watch. It's a sports model. The moment I walked in to hand in the watch, the salesgirl immediately told me the warranty doesn't cover 'waterproof', mind you, mine's a water sports model which has yet to see 'water-use'.

My only consolation now is RSC is repairing this watch without additional expense to me, i was told. That is why my AD said they never bothered to call me to update me. A 2nd salesgirl accused me of not screwing back the crown hence the discolored dial.

If you know a better AD with better informed salesperson, I'm interested.
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waterproof, no watch company will put that on the warranty. water resistance, yes.
its unfortunate u encounter such poor service.
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post Jun 6 2010, 04:18 AM

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QUOTE(legolas1118 @ Jun 2 2010, 07:41 PM)
This is outrageous  doh.gif
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not found another post someone to verify that blog....
U cannot believe everything U read... esp its a blog.


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QUOTE(aliluya @ Jun 2 2010, 12:23 PM)
greetings to all si fu..
I will like to know if to service the Tag HEuer Aquaracer quartz model, roughly how much will it be?
Service Inclusive polish the scratches on the bracelet. roughhly how much?

the timepiece was not service before since 2007.
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time to get battery change! leak on U and you end up paying more money.


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QUOTE(deja-vu @ Jun 6 2010, 06:44 AM)
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1191787531...=hpp_us_pageone

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It was printed in the wall street journal.


thanx! since its legit to do so, seller are happy with selling it at a high price right? the more reason to get a cool LE PP and wait a few yrs sell it back to PP at a huge profit!
or is it PP is selling back to PP, boasting high price and is willing to pay the commission to auction house? that would be a lost right.

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post Jun 11 2010, 11:34 PM

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QUOTE(jamesw @ Jun 11 2010, 12:04 PM)
There is no such thing as LE PP; only Limited Production PP, likewise apply to VC. Be great if "LE" PP can be obtain so easily like AP ROO, can be multi-millionaire without sweating it out liao, LOL rclxms.gif

Usually, one need to own a string of different lines of PP, regd 'em with PP Geneva, scrutinized by P Stern, b4 u receive an invitation letter to buy the Limited Production model. Very few peoples have the honour to receive such letter! cry.gif
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true... I guess we should use the right and appropriate term here.. but u get the drift..
have big $$, no worries about getting those letter. how many ppl in that CAt.. sad to say are few.

anyway, limited production is mainly due to the fact few ppl can afford it..
PP, VC all alway ppl to custom design their watches so long U can afford to pay.

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QUOTE(KTS @ Jun 18 2010, 03:22 AM)
anyone know where I can service my GP watch as well chopard and De La Cour??
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safe bet return to authorize service centre.
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QUOTE(kenneth_leong @ Jun 22 2010, 10:06 PM)
Why don't you all check out http://esq-watches.org
Its a great website and has loads of information on esq watches!
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link don't work
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QUOTE(kenneth_leong @ Jul 1 2010, 02:40 PM)
hey, it should work now
Whoops..
http://esq-watches.org
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cheesy way to advertise your site man.
load of info.. didn't find anything loads

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QUOTE(KTS @ Sep 28 2010, 02:01 AM)
expensive and crap....better u get someting valuable likes Rolex, tudor, IWC...depends ur budget
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huh? Mont Blanc expensive crap? have U heard of Minerva? or Minerva Villeret?
http://www.europastar.com/magazine/highlig...arket-with.html
http://www.europastar.com/magazine/highlig...a-and-more.html
http://www.watchtime.at/archive/wt_2009_01...2009_01_052.pdf
http://www.watchtime.at/archive/wt_2009_01...2009_01_060.pdf

Tudor Valuable? despite being Rolex's sister company they uses unmod ETA movement. maybe top gradeFYI mido also uses Top grade ETA movement.
even IWC not that valuable esp those entry level.
a 1990 rolex datejust is ~0.3 of today's datejust MSRP. U can argue U bought it for less and made money, hey due to inflation even if U sold it, U can never afford a 2010 model without paying more.


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QUOTE(KTS @ Sep 22 2010, 12:18 PM)

Added on September 22, 2010, 12:22 pmwhere I can get luxury wall clock?? if possible I would like brand such JLC, IWC, ROlex, Piaget, AP or GP
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online? I have yet to come across any of the wall clocks in mechanical movement. all quartz.

here is a Pam
http://www.watchuwant.com/watches/panerai-...scontinued-rare

an IWC
http://watchworx.blogspot.com/2009/11/late...wall-clock.html

Audemars Piguet Wall Clock
http://www.finestwatches.com/audemars-pigu...lock-11233.html
http://www.timeofswitzerland.com/Audemars-...all-Clock_e.cfm

some Singaporean got this Piaget from AD
http://piaget.watchprosite.com/show-forump.../ti-527281/s-0/
can try getting it here
http://www.chrono24.com/en/piaget/1569671.htm

don't think U'll find a Rolex, U find ppl looking for those in Rolex Forums.
U should try your hunt on the below forum
http://home.watchprosite.com/?show=forumpo...1&ti=527336&s=0

JLC don't make wall clock, they only do the famous Atmos clocks (mantel). U can find many used ones online or ebay for around US$700-1K but U may end up spending US$1-2K to fix it if U go to AD. few ppl know how to fix these clocks in Asia. new thru AD would cost U ~US$5K.


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QUOTE(mattiusa @ Sep 21 2010, 05:06 PM)
could someone explain to me what a moonphase is?
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most moonphase watches has a 59 teeth wheel.
the expensive ones uses a 135 teeth wheel.
http://www.worldtempus.com/en/news/top-new...thys-moon-2134/

check this out, I bet this helps alot
http://www.hautehorlogerie.org/horlogere-c...-phase-watches/


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QUOTE(santaclaus @ Oct 1 2010, 03:48 PM)
i've browse somepages but its weird tht no one bought a breguet b4?

im goin to swiss and planning to get either one ( breguet / IWC / JLC )

like tht breguet transatlantic XXI a lot , any1 knew how much KL selling?
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its retailing at ~RM29k
do note here there is no tax.
in Swiss U get a 7.6% tax, sure there is VAT refund however U are not getting 100% back. U still pay some tax.
more ppl from Southeast Asia end up paying a little more if they are to buy in Switzerland.
of course if U cannot get it locally then it make perfect sense to get it there.

this store is in switzerland a grey market dealer. their price maybe the lowest there, grey market prices is usually lower (99%) than AD.
http://www.timeofswitzerland.com/Breguet-T...ST-92-9ZU_e.cfm


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QUOTE(taingonghai @ Oct 1 2010, 05:19 PM)
Chopard 1000 Miglia XL owner reporting. Decent watch except the clasp has pissed on me 2 times already. 1 replacement clasp and 1 bracelet already replaced by the local AD. I think it's a problem with all metal bracelets and clasps for their larger faced models.
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should have got a Chopard LUC, chopard pay more attention to their LUC collection. then again it cost ALOT MORE!

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considering LUC series are in house movements, and every time U bring in it they do upgrade it if the movement requires changing.
Look at it, its a work of art. It is not that steep.
Steep is when they mod standard ETA. Breitling are all base off ETA. a 7750 cost ~US$350, those 2892 cost ~US$200.

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vs 7750
http://blog.breitlingsource.com/2007/09/15...-7750-movement/
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The interesting thing about the Valjoux 7750 movement is that watches using the base movement can be found as low as $1000 to as high as $10,000, if not higher, depending on the level of modification and *cough* marketing

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QUOTE(taingonghai @ Oct 2 2010, 04:03 PM)
patryn33, thanks for the info and explanation.
Come to think of it, you're planting seeds of doubt in my mind now! haha. I know the Breitling 13b/ Valjoux 7750 mod engine is definitely not considered high end in any way. But the bloody Bentley GT series are definitely OH SO YUMMY looking!
Btw, what do you think of the Hublot watches? In particular the Big Bang series and the HUB 44 movement? I know they're in another price category all together, but would sure like your opinion since u seem to be an expert in watch/movement technicalities.
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info on their movement very limited. for a watch that retails over US$15K I expect the movement to be well decorated with blue screws.
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this is an mod 7750, like the Pam there are alot more that go into the Mod. an added module is fairly uncommon, noe at 50% off thru AD.
http://lmtime.com/watches/jules-verne.php
http://www.ablogtoread.com/watch-brands/lo...t-watch-review/
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QUOTE(KTS @ Oct 5 2010, 12:43 AM)
I need help...where I can service my GP vintage 45??
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where are U located?
U can always bring it into GP authorize service centre to get it done.

this model pretty affordable. in house movement, nicely decorated. Is yours something like that?
http://www.bernardwatch.com/watch/GP409
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try TSC in Amcorp Mall if U seeking private shop
else U have to contact http://www.girard-perregaux.ch/ directly

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