LATEST UPDATE.

After almost 4 years since my first job at Sunway, I can't believe I am still receiving emails on this subject and this thread is still active. Kinda nostalgic for me to read my post on the matter and it seems there were some level of immaturity in me at that point of time

I will still leave my post under as unedited for all to read but now I have started my own company in Singapore since year 2010 after my various job roles within the Sunway Group business units.

I must say that the experience within the various business units have equipped me with good experience overall from sales, marketing and technical skill sets. However, had it been done in a more structured manner and if there were proper processes at that time, it would definitely be more beneficial.

I am sure with the revamped programme, kinks should be worked out by now and the last time I kept in touch with the HR personnel running this programme it still sounds very competitive in terms of compensation and benefits compared to the industry offerings.

All SMART trainees are excellent individuals and I have good memories with every one of them. For those who have managed to get into the programme, congratulations, best of luck to your careers and hopefully we might meet one day in any of the reunions of the SMART alumni

P.S: I may still reply to some PMs but it won't be as frequent as I'd like due to workload from running the business

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Hi all,

Since my last postings about Sunway Group a year or more earlier, I have been receiving a lot of PMs ever since about working in Sunway, benefits, working environment, about the SMART Programme which I am part of. So instead of just answering the PMs one by one, I decided to just start a thread.

So please feel free to ask about it, I will try to give you my unbiased views but bear in mind that of course my views are affected by the experiences I go through. So fire away with the questions~!




Perhaps I shall answer a few questions first from the PMs I got:-

forumer trust86 asked:-



Well yes I am still working in Sunway and generallhy the Sunway SMART Programme is a management trainee programme that you will find in all other MNC companies. It is a 2 year programme which aims to put you in a managerial position after that (though I still have not seen any member of the programme beyond an assistant manager level, so take their claim with a pinch of salt). What you get with it is the various kinds of training, rotation to different business units in the first 6 months and also the exposure to top level management.

Now for the bad part, as good as it may sound they still put you into normal positions after that which I think really kind of defeats the purpose of recruiting high calibre people and putting them to do grunt work. Having said that, it also depends on which business unit you get into. So if you are one of the lucky ones to go into profitable business units then beautiful.

Interview wise I would think it is very engaging (the final stages) but just to give you an idea you start off with a presentation after the initial selection. Then you will be short-listed from there and invited to a day-long interview where there are 3 stages of 'management games'. Overall I felt it was quite fun. won't be that difficult if your command of English is good and you have achieved your CGPA or results in an above average manner.


Raven 22 asked:-



1 - Don't count on the average it differs WIDELY from BU to BU. You may get from none to up till 5 months depending on the business unit you are in.

2. - Again, don't count on mega increases, especially in today's climate. You won't nail much from the increment, at most perhaps it might be 20%. But when you are working, I don't think demanding an increment average is good. You will be rewarded handsomely if you contribute accordingly.

3. - Benefits, hmmm I guess there are a lot of discounts in Sunway related companies (i.e. Pyramid and hotels) that you can get but I guess for me the best would be the 50% education off in Sunway University College and the property discount that you get. But be careful~! All of them comes with terms and conditions. For example, the education discount does not cover the better degrees and MBAs like when I was applying for my Victoria University MBA. And the property discount only comes after you have been working 2 years with the group.

4. - Honestly, I will recommend a friend only if they are joining good business units with the right management team, other than that all the other BUs just plain sucks! An idea of the good companies would be just to look at the money generating ones (i.e. SunCity, SunCon, Sunway Medical, Sunway University College & Sunway Marketing). My personal favorite would be SunCity because I like it that their management has a long-term view and up-to-date on current developments.


Had a long chat with forumer Y3n as well but no updates after the final interview. Hope to hear from you though

This post has been edited by lord_shadow: Apr 26 2012, 01:43 AM

oh... good, i am also working in sunway,
received numerous amount of PM about that too,
almost covered all d... ya.. i also think suncity is the best..

lord shadow ...

do sunway provide car park for stuff ?

thanks , , ,

Well the answer to car park is a both yes and no

If you are senior management and above then of course you get a car park

They have a staff car park just besides Menara Sunway and opposite the Resort Hotel but you will have to pay a monthly fee for it. Usually you will have to queue up on a list for these parking privileges

Now good thing is, they also open up a season parking for the staff in the shopping center so that you can just walk over from the car park.

If you are looking for free parking, then either get cosy with the people who issue these cards or get your way up to senior management

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Added on October 29, 2008, 6:57 pmfirecrac, which BU are you working for? Based in Malaysia?

This post has been edited by lord_shadow: Oct 29 2008, 06:57 PM

i just applied a job at Sunway City Berhad..keeping my fingers crossed!

SunCity's a good choice

Let me know when you get in there, I have lotsa SMART trainee friends in there

i going for sunway BPO interview. some executive position.

any comment?

btw, i'm not an IT student. do u think i have a future there?

My fren told me that sunway do have a geotechical team. Is that true?

Amanda85,

Sunway BPO has generally a good concept of the business and I like their GM as he is very practical, takes care of his employees and has good vision. Just be careful on what position you are in, Sunway BPO are generally technical positions.

Of course the other thing is that it may be sales that you are looking at.


Shingin,

Sorry, don't know much about the geotechnical team. But I would assume that you are referring to SunCon here.

Means overall the place is good

yea..
one of the SunCon's arm

This post has been edited by firecrac: Dec 1 2008, 08:27 PM

How about sunway pyramid or sunway carnival? Hows the benefit there? Any bonus? and working environment? Anybody know?

saw an interesting position Legal Officer with Sunway Medical, anyone has any 2 cents about Sunway Medical?

I know they just expanded their building... but in relations to management and administration matters remains trully a mistery to me..

Amanda85,
Sunway BPO is BU for outsourcing business.
Its actually related to Sunway SSC (Shared Service Centre) namesake.

The reason of this is Sunway SSC is a cost centre and it handles internal outsourcing of BUs and subsidiaries, as the name suggests.

So, BPO comes into play as an entity to deal with external business outsourcing due to some legal/bureaucracy issues as SSC is a cost centre and is not allowed a P&L whereas BPO can.

As you know, cari makan within your own company is tough as every BU will squeeze everything out of you and getting some extra cash outside to fund your projects is not a bad thing. Thats basically the history.

Most positions in BPO are business related, not much technical; but of course you have to know some IT as you are dealing with IT oursourcing and the biz offering/proposition of the company. Usually is the front end where you deal/meet with customers and prepare proposals/SLAs, tender and stuff.

I encourage if anyone that is able to join the SMART, please join SunCity as there is more room for you to grow and move up. SunCity places alot of efforts in this programme and in fact the idea of SMART is pioneered by 1 of the director in SunCity. You'll be able to get 1-to-1 mentoring sessions with the ED weekly. Good stuff. I do not recommend considering other BUs.

ou....sounds like sunway is a good company....I have a fren that joined via SMART as well, now edy landed herself with sunmed....she seems to be happy and satisfy with her job there...

This post has been edited by Xanny: Jan 11 2009, 05:23 PM

I think I apply for Sunway at least 5 times already. no luck at all. M going for Admin or HR position. Mostly i apply with pyramid, sunway U or sunway medical centre. so far no luck

I worked there after I grad... I'm surprised so many ppl say it's tough to get in

i applied as a fresh grad too, but they only offer me RM1.8k n they expect me to do OT with no claims, n no free parking for junior staff

so i accepted another company's higher offer, but surprisingly sunway actually called me up for a counter offer and keep reciting me all their staffs benefits, which can be quite tempting

This post has been edited by Amanda85: Jan 11 2009, 06:43 PM

How about engineering job in Sunway huh??

Maybe because I'm not degree holder but with few yrs experience? But other public listed co do hire me. I guess it is all up to the empployer



if a company counter offer you, means they really want you. Maybe you can voice out your concern?