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calmwater
post Oct 30 2008, 01:53 AM

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QUOTE(Singh_Kalan @ Oct 29 2008, 05:21 AM)
Based on the trend analysis of 1997 and current 2008, the current KLCI chart is an exact carbon copy of the 1997 downtrend chart.  There's no turning back di, its going south.... sweat.gif
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If applied to Dow Jones where will it be one year from now? After all they have problems no smaller than ours. In fact their financial institutions are bankrupt, more than ours.

So Dow coming down to 3000!!!

If that happens we might revisit 200+. hmm.gif
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post Nov 3 2008, 10:01 PM

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It seems with the rally these few days, the market has bottomed.
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post Nov 3 2008, 11:16 PM

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QUOTE(simplesmile @ Nov 3 2008, 10:01 PM)
It seems with the rally these few days, the market has bottomed.
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I doubt it has bottomed, this could be a bear trap.

Note that the US is in a recession, with unemployment probably rising and growth diminishing for the next year, I don't think we are out of the woods yet. Credit is still a problem, businesses are cutting back/contracting, and economists see European countries going into a recession as well.
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post Nov 4 2008, 12:37 PM

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It is bottom when there is a U shaped.... but if you seen it, that means it already has passed.


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not yet passed gua hmm.gif maybe got another W shape ler tongue.gif
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post Nov 9 2008, 12:17 PM

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I Guess It Will Be Q4 2009 Or Next 2 years (somewhere in 2010)

Since Now Just The Starting..

Getting Worse Soon..

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post Nov 13 2008, 11:02 AM

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QUOTE(simplesmile @ Nov 3 2008, 10:01 PM)
It seems with the rally these few days, the market has bottomed.
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haha.....best jokes of 2008. icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Nov 13 2008, 08:38 PM

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QUOTE(Singh_Kalan @ Nov 13 2008, 11:02 AM)
haha.....best jokes of 2008.  icon_rolleyes.gif
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Glad you liked it. whistling.gif
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post Nov 15 2008, 10:21 PM

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QUOTE(simplesmile @ Nov 3 2008, 10:01 PM)
It seems with the rally these few days, the market has bottomed.
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I think you still need to monitor for another few weeks before making that conclusion. I personally think that it will probably happen in 2009. biggrin.gif
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post Nov 23 2008, 11:08 AM

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I think the last 1 or 2 months of the drop in the KLCI index is mostly due to foreign investors pulling out their funds. Hence the big selldown and the sudden drop in the KLCI. I think most of the foreign funds have more or less been pulled out of the KLCI.

The next drop in the KLCI will be more gradual, when companies start to report less than expected earnings, or even losses.

Then retrenchment comes and people sell off their stocks to pay their bills. This,.. I think would be the last stage of drop in the KLCI.

Do you agree with my projection? What do you think?


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post Nov 23 2008, 11:36 AM

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QUOTE(simplesmile @ Nov 23 2008, 11:08 AM)
I think the last 1 or 2 months of the drop in the KLCI index is mostly due to foreign investors pulling out their funds. Hence the big selldown and the sudden drop in the KLCI. I think most of the foreign funds have more or less been pulled out of the KLCI.

The next drop in the KLCI will be more gradual, when companies start to report less than expected earnings, or even losses.

Then retrenchment comes and people sell off their stocks to pay their bills. This,.. I think would be the last stage of drop in the KLCI.

Do you agree with my projection? What do you think?
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Yup, that would be around 300pts based on my estimation. laugh.gif
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post Dec 3 2008, 10:45 PM

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market wont be recovering so fast as can see US losses trillion of dollar and so as many countries losses talking about billions. subprime issue, lehman brother,gm motor, citibank, small bank bankrupt,inflation,recession etc all not settle yet and still alot of of other hidden issue undisclose yet.

can for see dont talk about 1- 2 years time to recover the $$. even 10 years also cannot recover as can see

simple just take as a normal person losses rm100k, how long and what business will it take to recover back the $$ in this kind of economy, and now countrys talking about billions of $$ loss. Print more $$.

eg. epf buying from the top to the bottom alot of different shares, if audit the paper loss will billions. from rm10 down to rm2 still buying how much $$ have been put into the shares and to breakeven for a particular counter only. epf have been buying so many counters and still holding, bcos not their $$ just report invest losses thats it.

dont think epf wont loss, even loss more. for small player buying from top till bottom (breakeven) also cannot tahan, do u think epf can tahan.


better be careful. even blue chip counter can be privatise at alower value in time to come and no chance for rebound which u have bought at a high price.

This post has been edited by lowyat888: Dec 3 2008, 10:54 PM
simplesmile
post Dec 21 2008, 10:36 PM

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"Companies that say, yes we are affected and we’re modifying our plans to cope with the challenging environment – buy these companies.

“Companies that say, no we’re not affected – sell these companies, as they have no sense of realism!” says Mowat.

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http://biz.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?f...06&sec=business

The 2nd sentence sounds so familiar.... like I've heard someone said before that Malaysia is insulated and is not affected by the financial crisis in US. There you have it. Anybody who says Malaysia is not affected have no sense of realism.

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post Dec 22 2008, 07:45 AM

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QUOTE(Kinitos @ Oct 23 2008, 02:20 PM)
"BMW Malaysia sales rise 32pc " thanks to our stock market.

Its just that most of people not in the 5%

Making money in stock market is EASY.  IF U...
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i love this words...because i'm already within this 5% groups-no problem with the market at all..if it's going to the top..i'm making profit..when get to the bottom..i'm also making huge profit..so what's the matter?

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