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Bass (WTA) Which one, Squier Jazz Bass or SX jazzbass, Sorry Newbie question

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nimrod2
post Oct 27 2008, 08:22 PM

the imba one
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QUOTE(HoyHoySum @ Oct 26 2008, 02:11 PM)
Thanks lest the topic stray out from my original intention. Go down Singapore and don't know what to buy? Back to square one and worst travel all the way to Singapore...
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haha whatever thats cheap la! if 1/2 price, means we can double our budget laugh.gif

QUOTE(hmc @ Oct 27 2008, 06:46 PM)
I owned an SX SJB LTD2 bass. I have test a couple of fender MIM and squire bass. Here's my 2 cents point of view. They do sound different due to the combination of materials and parts.

Here, it is difficult to make an apple to apple comparison as different retailer usually do not carry the brand that you can A-B test. Even if you managed to find a shop which carries both Squire and SX, it is unlikely they would have the different Squire range to compare (the sub-RM500 squire and RM1000 differs in sound and construction quality). You should test the bass with the bass amp that you intend to purchase. This is gonna get complicated as even Fender MIA will sound craps if the amp is crabby. Your expectation will surely be compromised somehow as the sound may not even come close unless you can afford to stretch your $$$ for the equipment. Therefore you should take a pragmatic approach:

1. Determine your budget allocation for the bass and the amp
2. Do a bit of leg work and go round seeking shops which have the brands for comparison
3. Start selecting the amp as the common denominator for test. Do not use their high end amplifier you can't afford to take home.
4. The amp choice depends if you want to play in room or gig environment (this will determine the power 20W-200w and the portability).
5. Check the selected bass for the workmanship which can affect your playing i.e rough frets, buzzing, high action, electronics , etc.
6. Bass string types (round wound, flat wound, coated and etc) affects the sound more than guitar strings.
7. You need to justify to your wallet if the 'better' sounding bass is worth the extra Ringgit you have to fork out (does twice the price sounded 2x as good?)

Most important is to let your ear decide so that you will not regret your purchase. Surf and net and check out this link on opinions: [URL=http://http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=477183]
Hope this helps.
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good advice? thumbup.gif
haha well said and all.
zxeen
post Oct 28 2008, 09:42 AM

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bro hoysum,

hi, back to the topic. i've tried both the sx and squier jazz basses. it's hard to compare because there're so many squier series out there. for the sx itself, there're a few variants too. so i belive for the sx, you have the rm700++ one in mind.

for the sx, the one i tested had gold hardware and it's neck is shiny laquered (like mij fenders smile.gif ) cost about rm800. sounds very good. bright clean sound, good for slapping. finishing is very, very good. salesman said limited edition. there's one selling at my place around 1k with hardcase.

for the squier, rm800 will get you only the affinity series. affinity these days sucks. if you got $$ go for the vintage vibes series. rm1k++ only brows.gif please bear in mind that california series squier is KNOCK OFF. in the past, the california really sucks. bad necks get wraped fast, bad sound, etc.. but today have improved by leaps and bounds.

if i put the sx to a affinity or california, i'll take the sx. better bang for the bucks. if you're looking for the trademark 'mwah' sound of a jazz, it's present in both basses though.

it's really important to test them one after another ON THE SAME AMP. because every bass is unique. even for the same brand and model, one bass can sound different from the other - wood factor.

i personally own a affinity pbass (pakage one). i'm lucky to get a nicely made one which sounds quite good.

what kind of music you play? do you meed the mwa mwa jazz sound or do a lot of slapping? for me i play in church only, so i choose pbass because it got a soft thump sound, more suitable for my purpose.

stray topic: don't bother about swee lee sales. they normally do it on weekdays. very, very crowded, not everything half price and by the time you reach there almost everything sold out! i'm in jb so i go to compare guitar stuff in singapore quite often. not necessarily cheaper than malaysia. but definately more choice. here's a guide: cheap thing cheaper in malaysia (sx, squier), expensive thing cheaper in singapore (fender, gibson). if you're looking for mij fender, then it's worth the trip, because it's widely available there. singapre trip - count me in too!!

here's a singapore music forum: www.soft.com.sg if you want to buy anything from the buy/sell section, i can ve your agent. brows.gif hehehe... just joking. biggrin.gif

This post has been edited by zxeen: Oct 28 2008, 09:44 AM
TSHoyHoySum
post Oct 28 2008, 02:55 PM

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Thanks you for the advice. As for my practise amp i have a peavey microbass. I might buy a bigger amp when i a ready to gig. Sorry what is 'mwah' sound? is it malay word for mewah? i like the sound of budget, budget, budget.......

As for the SX limited, i missed a sale by someone right in the neighbourhood.
http://buysell.mypdacafe.com/9949.html
As all the times i was thinking of squier, upon reading his advert, i got interested, i research and call him up. He told me sorry, that how i posted in the forum....
zxeen
post Oct 28 2008, 04:16 PM

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yeah, that's the sx jazz i'm talking about. that's a good deal! my office server block youtube so can't provide any links. when i say mwa, i'm talking about the trademark sound of due to the jazz pickups. there are 2 pickups, one placed near the bridge and another at the neck. so the sound range is from boomy to nasal. um.. i'm bad at describing.

if you have the chance, go and buy Carole King's concert dvd. the bassist uses a jazz bass.

http://www.caroleking.com/index.php?p=disc..._detail&id=2592

to listen how a pbass sounds like, just listen to the shadows. very classic pbass sound.

here's a link to tesla pickups manufacturer. they have sample sounds so you can learn to 'hear' what a jazz bass sounds like. once you get the hang of it, you can tell what bass is used when listening to any songs!

http://www.teslatek.com/index_en.htm

go for the sx, it's limited edition allright. budget squier really sucks these days

jb vs pb for dummies:
a jb sounds 'mwa-mwa' while a pb sounds 'thump-thump'.. biggrin.gif

This post has been edited by zxeen: Oct 28 2008, 04:19 PM
azrinarizz
post Oct 28 2008, 05:08 PM

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Ask the sifus about the guitar
Buy a bass that sound best to your ears
Then play and love it
After that you should have known what type of bass you are looking
Dont be sad if you make the wrong choice and what other think
Some peopel have different taste
Choose yours smile.gif

TSHoyHoySum
post Oct 28 2008, 11:36 PM

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Yup, you are right buy a jazz bass and later a p bass...Thanks zxeen..
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post Oct 30 2008, 02:07 PM

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i use to own an SX P-bass shape, price around rm6-700, and im totally satiesfied with it biggrin.gif the only thing i dont like about it is the free SX gigbag tongue.gif
nimrod2
post Oct 31 2008, 04:33 PM

the imba one
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lol why u dont like the bag? i thought people like free stuff laugh.gif

pics? if nice maybe i buy. i want a soft case. any recommendation?
eugene gerard
post Nov 17 2008, 10:23 AM

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QUOTE(HoyHoySum @ Oct 28 2008, 02:55 PM)
Thanks you for the advice. As for my practise amp i have a peavey microbass. I might buy a bigger amp when i a ready to gig. Sorry what is 'mwah' sound? is it malay word for mewah? i like the sound of budget, budget, budget.......

As for the SX limited, i missed a sale by someone right in the neighbourhood.
http://buysell.mypdacafe.com/9949.html
As all the times i was thinking of squier, upon reading his advert, i got interested, i research and call him up. He told me sorry, that how i posted in the forum....
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u mean the 'wah' effect?
haha.
btw, i'll recommend u to go for squier.
buy got more money then go straight to fender lo. laugh.gif

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