i also voted null but i will support the Pam4 rule set till the last drop of my digital blood(yea im that lame).I highly agree that pro mod is good and all but it takes away the essence of CoD4,like the above people have stated the pro mod simplifies alot of matters in SnD but i think that CoD 4 is MORE then just SnD. I mean other mods test thier team differently such as Dom and TDM in ways that SnD cant......

All and all if some how the world fall apart and only promod is left obviously i will play it and see how far i can go with it....BUT TILL THAT HAPPPENS HEED MY WORDS I WILL FIGHT FOR PAM4/OUR RULES SET BLOOD BY BLOOD

cheers

[ESP].Ho|yboy


ps: its not "blitzone" rules its the rule set decided by the COMMUNITY FOR THE COMMUNITY so i think it should be called "pam4- Malaysian Rules"

This post has been edited by Holyboyz: Oct 19 2008, 01:54 AM

Ok, I'll change it now.

u mean with 3Xnades 3Xstun.....cannot la.the original cod4 is not made for competitive play.this is wat alot of people fail to understand.the game is made by IW such away people who play the game can have fun playing public servers.modifications like pam4 n promod r needed to make the game balance for competitive gaming.

i really dunno wat to vote for cause i am somewhere in between both local ruleset n promod but since promod means a more balanced competitive gameplay i voted for it.i still feel the local ruleset is fun though n i dont mind playing it.the local ruleset is still not a finished story n i believe further modification from further meetings can make the ruleset more balanced.we have come along way from the tbun tourney pls dun even think about going back.i feel dead silence so be totally removed cause footsteps is a key element in any fps.

oops cannot change..

walao quack relaxla.dun so emo.just state ur points enough alrdy.



haha nvm la free advert for blitz hahahaha.

lol epic failzor!!!! hehe

hahaha... yeah... i forgot about the 3X nades and 3X stuns. hahaha that one 100% sure ban.

this post really interesting.

Lol do you know a claymore can be used as another player? It's not only used to kill people. It can guard an entrance as well. No one ever said the clays were gay because of the killing, think more openly please. Your thoughts are so shallow.

LMG is stupid because you have 100 ammo ready to spam and wall bang. It's almost like a rifle type P90.

And we can't stand the rules in PAM4, not the game. You're saying European and American countries can't stand COD as well. (Wtf?)

Other countries are using Promod so why don't you move along with the world instead of being so defiant? How stupid can you be when you say we can't stand COD when we're following international rulesets to improve ourselves, to take part in international events while you still play your PAM4?

If perks like Dead Silence are the 'fun' part of COD then I suggest YOU should stop playing. Perks might be the fun part but they also give you a bloody gay advantage. It's fine if you want to play with perks but make sure you know how to ban them. The fact that DS isn't banned is just stupid. And don't give me some smart ass way to counter DS because it's 90% uncounterable under a good player.

Apparently you have no f***ing idea what you're talking about (and neither do I). All you're doing is ranting. I suggest you post constructively and not like a troll

FYI FsN's CSS team is still dominating. Show's how invalid your argument is. You don't even know the facts you use against people.

This post has been edited by Strayfah: Oct 19 2008, 02:06 AM

Save it Strayfe. You've already proven your point. Lets see what they have to say.

agreed enuf spams moar voting plox and let keep it to ONE VOTE ONE POST


PS: IF ur not satisfied with the current perks/rules i suggest u join us at the next meeting then say your views ^^ should be conducted after WGT because the current rules cant be changed due to it already being posted up.

Aye, i vouch for quack. not bcos he is in the same clan or he's a fren to me but he speaks the truth and fact. I prefer our originality from the blitzone torney whereby all leaders from COD4 clan came and discuss on how we set our rules and reg b4 we start to follow Europeans. y not make the Europeans follow our trend instead? Pam4 / promod makes cod4 exactly like cs. So what difference does it shows compare to both Cod 4 and CS? Let us malaysians be special our own ways and we'll see how other countries adapt to OUR rules and reg.

basically there was a point whereby after SRC torney, most teams had a meeting whereby they all came to an agreement that this pam4 mod have been agreed to be used on WGT and further tournaments.

SWL Grr also said b4 "Basically why is there so many mods try to make game closer to cs the purpose is to attract competitive cs player over to a similar kind of platform and just replace cs with cod4. Also to have all the players to be playing on the same level with no perks/attachments avantage, purely fight it out with tactical sense, teamwork and skill level.

The reason why SG community is following the international ruleset is probably becos if u have own local community ruleset it will be appealing to your own community since the community decide on it. If u wan to attract foreign teams or play in an international competitions u/foreign teams will be @ a disadvantage since u are not familiar with the ruleset hence they will have no interests in joining as well. Main part of it is also becus singapore cod4 community is small so we need to attract nearby teams to support the competitions as well."

And i've said this b4 and i will say it again, international rules or malaysian rules, a good player nvr complains about it but just adapt to it and be the best of it.

As for me personally, i've played both international rules and malaysian rules and i'm alrite with the rules and reg. But in international rules and reg, there's no gun sway which makes it imbalance whereby the origin of the game is taken away. Cod4 shows a more realistic game play and creates a war-like view.
Not tryin to be one-sided but Cod4 is more realistic whereby guns actually recoil and as for snipers the gun sways. taking away the gun sway enables players to aim easily. for example, snipers has to hold their breathe to focus their aim. but they cant hold it forever which actually forces the sniper to catch their breathe and then do the same. a realistic game.

and based on what ESP death said b4,
Ladies and Gentlemen,

I would like to say something before all these things get out of hand. Firstly, if most of you remember, the rule set made in malaysia was FOR the malaysian community. It was agreed upon by numerous team leaders, not only myself, together with NewEra Malaysia to provide these rules, apply them in all upcoming local competition as a promotion to the game. We all agreed that day, that focusing on 1 game mode will kill the game, not only that, it will kill CS 1.6, which NewEra, WCG, WGT and ESWC still currently run.

Unlike singapore, the CALL OF DUTY 4 : Modern Warfare clans here are much larger. This creates a bigger gaming industry in Malaysia and i hope it will not consist of the same group of people when COD4 eventually dies out.

I helped create this community for them to be closer, heard and also allow them to play with the rules they are comfortable with. This also helps promote the game, its uniqueness and its system without limiting the game's system too much. There ARE no international rules, simply because there hasn't been an International competition, WGT is the closest we can get so far, with the Regionals & Leagues i am planning soon, we might go big. But remember that WGT is local, regardless. The reason why they use the WCG ruleset (which will be modified soon) is because they want to have a good reference for their sponsors, Intel & ASUS. The same reason why organizers f*** up the communities.

I must stress that the reason we dont use international rules is because there isn't one. Secondly, we don't need to pull players from CS, thirdly I dont WANT to. [ESP] supports gaming, that is why we try very hard not to pull players away from their games in turn, we gain their support whenever there is need for it. In order for the gaming industry to grow, there needs to be coherent support from each game, clan and community, so that sponsors and companies will be more supportive and understanding of our stature.

I want the current clans to be stronger without the need of international support but at the same time aid those countries that have limited teams.
In all honesty, i didn't like the WCG Singapore rules due to the fact that it is too close to other games, it might either kill the other games or vice versa. The core groups who played COD4 for the current rules may leave to newer games because of it and CS clans might come over, killing CS in the process.

Before applying the rulesets, please think about the future of the INDUSTRY, not the game, not your company, not your competition. THe rule set in singapore also makes it longer for games to complete, giving you time constraints as a organizer. Normal Malaysian games, although having multiple game modes, lasts from 45-60 minutes TOTAL, where as 1 game of 14 rounds in SnD with the WCG ruleset will last you an hour EACH set. Which means a game that goes to a tie breaker, might reach a total of 3 hours. IF all teams were as strong as each other, a 16 team game will last a total of 12 hours to the finals, without a group stage. A problem i faced while running the WCG in Singapore.

As an organizer, im speaking for those who had organized COD4 competitions before... DO you have the time? DO your sponsors AGREE with what you are planning? Are the competitors HAPPY with your current system? Will the SYSTEM function during the process of the competition?
A choice must be made, i hope you understand the consequences.

All i can say is, the WCG Singapore rule set had its advantages. It was easy to apply, you didnt need an expert behind the servers, so long as he knew the exec codes. But that was singapore. I don't know how it will fare here in Malaysia, since the rule sets are also ready with only required exec codes to be run.

With Highest Regards,
[ESP].Death
[ESP].Gaming,
Play Hard, Go Pro.
Gamers for Gaming.

If u cant adapt to it, dont play the game. Love the game the way it is and play it with love. *lol sounds gay*
I hereby end my discussion. Amen.

p.s. oh yes i do copy and paste some of the same excuses. .

This post has been edited by affr0boy: Oct 19 2008, 02:15 AM

The main reason for this argument is to generalize the COD rules so we can follow 1 set of rules and not play 2 separate rulesets.

I respect your post as it has points but like the saying goes, you can be the Jack of all Trades, but a Master of None.

We should only follow 1 set of rules, a set that represents the ENTIRE COD community around the world. We can adapt if we want to. But once you get too used to PAM4, you won't be as good in Promod.

Certainly,claymores aren't only used to kill people,it also involves telling the player that someone is there. Bomb skuad (my alphabet on the left of W on the keyboard is spoiled so I'm replacing it with a "k") will help prevent the guy from dying to the claymores but would of course instantly alert the planter. That does not end here. It does alert the planter but there are many other ways to use that AGAINST the planter, you have 5 players,work with each other to counteract the other team.

LMG is stupid? Maybe in S&D. Consider other modes as well.

"Other countries are using Promod so why don't you move along with the world instead of being so defiant?". This statement is really well said without thought. Why don't we move along with the world? I believe this statement was used loads of times before, do you want to be the sheep or the one leading the sheeps? Be unik.

Perks like Dead Silence I agree is somehow "imbalanced",a huge advantage over an opponent who is crouching most of the time to avoid sound against a person who can run,walk,jump,drop down,strafe standing while shooting at a person crouching. COD4 competitively in our country only started THIS year. Why change so fast to Promod? Because everyone is following it? That isn't a solid reason. You're not helping the community.

And that is all. I've voted for PAM 4.01 as stated before in my previous post. But if I were to change my vote, I would null it as well. Stated by pr8sh,we have come a long way from the first Tbun tournament with the ruleset. You might say we can still turn back and go to Promod, but no, I wouldn't agree. I would follow our community current ruleset instead of other countries ruleset. To have it balanced would need time.

This is my opinion.

[ESP].Pikachu

i wud love the uniqueness of COD 4 to REMAIN! thats wad COD is ALL ABOUT!

COD aint CS and vice versa. simple as that~ ^^

wad cod give is a total diff gameplay unlike cs. there are reasons y the perks are around to use. CS is all about gun power. but in cod all guns power and be tweaked by stopping or nurffed uav ( tactical) or jugger ( kamikaze ). thats the fun part of it. if COD is turning into CS y bother making cod in the first place? and y bother making COD a multiplayer mod?

i wud say the backbone of COD gameplay is the perks itself that seperates the diff type of gaming exp. COD is turning into CS then y dont international host games like quake 4, quake 3. that wud b another type of CS playing style rite? no gun sway. imba guns~ and such.

This post has been edited by AeonStrife: Oct 19 2008, 02:51 AM

Thou im not part of this community but as someone who have played both ruleset i would like to say something as well. Both mods have their pros and cons but at the end of the day wad is most important is not which is better than which and which mod can attract the majority community into the competitive scene. The mods is not the thing tat keeps the game going but the community itself. Most of the arguement here is all about perks/feel of cod/similar to cs should the arguement be more about the community. Honestly if there is no teams supporting the MY ruleset do u really think there will be those competition held by that ruleset? Let the community decide wad mod to play and not let the mod decide wad the community plays.

IMHO the current Malaysia Ruleset is quite good on it own, it just need alittle balancing by limiting the no. of user to some perks and guns and adding more variety of maps as more competitions is held.

Btw, JEDI is not the best but really not noob. @ least not really noob to tat extend it needs to be shown on youtube shouted by some player(i really duno who is that).

Sorry EZ,that was *ahem* someone *ahem* that *ahem* is *ahem* my *ahem* captain *ahem*. Right,more cough drops for me. It was sorta a morale boost. LOLZ. No offense intended. ^^

Nah no offence taken as long as u guys are happy. We also like to say ESP noob once in a while. *Whoops*

This post has been edited by EzPeaceZ: Oct 19 2008, 02:51 AM

Haha, dam you EZ! *throws mini uzi clip at EZ".

EDIT: Sorry tek, lol, beh tahan. I help you report Aeon,k? =D

This post has been edited by Mr.Pikachu: Oct 19 2008, 02:55 AM

saying is easy for u EZ!!! LOL

... you guys are spamming.. go report yourselves lol.