Which one is the best software for compression?? WinRAR or 7zip??
WinRAR vs 7zip
WinRAR vs 7zip
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Oct 18 2008, 10:23 AM, updated 18y ago
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Which one is the best software for compression?? WinRAR or 7zip??
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Oct 18 2008, 10:31 AM
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ur sig is oversize -.-
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Oct 18 2008, 10:40 AM
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Oct 18 2008, 10:45 AM
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for best compression.. try KGB Archiver..
for commercial use.. use the freeware 7zip.. yup.. ur sig- is damn big.. eyesore |
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Oct 18 2008, 10:48 AM
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Nowadays people use WinRAR. I pick WinRAR for its advanced options and functions.
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Oct 18 2008, 11:48 AM
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i use 7z since its freeware~
for me mor o less is same.. i mean winrar la..doesn't c any big diff on compression compare wit 7z.. |
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Oct 18 2008, 12:57 PM
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7zip is freeware and supports unicode, however only Winrar can compress .rar files.
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Oct 18 2008, 01:15 PM
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Most files in the Internet are distributed in .rar format nowadays, i don't see how 7zip can compete against WinRar.
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Oct 18 2008, 01:38 PM
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7zip is better is your wanto uncompressed and compressed unicode file name and folder ~
7zip support unicode ~ japanese,korean,chinese..... Added on October 18, 2008, 1:40 pmi using 7zip right now (changing from winrar to 7zip) coz it support unicode This post has been edited by umiseaz: Oct 18 2008, 01:40 PM |
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Oct 18 2008, 02:32 PM
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I use WinRAR cause it is faster when uncompressing files as it supports multiple cores. I believe 7z still doesn't.
Also, all upgrades has been free so far - only had to pay once. This post has been edited by atomica: Oct 18 2008, 02:32 PM |
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Oct 18 2008, 02:40 PM
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actually using 7z rite now.. i dun compress thngy at all, just un-compress thngy i downloaded frm d net.. so far ok ah..somemore its free...turning 2 open source program nowadays..
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Oct 18 2008, 06:56 PM
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Oct 18 2008, 08:34 PM
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If you'd like high compression ratio, I'd recommend KGB Archiver but it takes 3 days to archive/compress 2GB into 2MB (Yes, it's possible!).
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Oct 18 2008, 11:14 PM
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Oct 18 2008, 11:26 PM
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Winrar for my choice....
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Oct 19 2008, 12:08 AM
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i support winrar.7zip does not support many functions as the winrar
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Oct 19 2008, 12:48 AM
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Default compressor is winrar.
7zip only use to uncompress file that winrar do not support. |
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Oct 19 2008, 01:16 AM
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dis thread is getting nowhere.
both of dem cannot compare directly. both big different in features, 1 freeware & another1 is not. its like comparing apple wit orange........=_= |
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Oct 19 2008, 01:20 AM
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winrar is good enough, support alot format, including 7zip, support multipart files, self extract file, and never expired even in trial version, so just install winrar, no point to install freeware.
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Oct 19 2008, 01:25 AM
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IMO Winrar the best
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Oct 19 2008, 01:25 AM
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I use both. Sometimes I need to compress in 7-Zip format.
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Oct 19 2008, 06:28 AM
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used both, for normal user like me there is nothing different if u used either software. currently using 7zip.
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Oct 23 2008, 12:54 PM
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I want to ask whether 7zip can use for company users?? illegal or not?
I got use this for my company now ZipGenius(freeware) but this cant unzip .rar This post has been edited by jason07: Oct 23 2008, 12:55 PM |
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Oct 23 2008, 12:55 PM
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Why illegal?
Its freeware software.. I think 7-Zip better..It can extract .exe files and many more.. Plus its Compact,fast,easi and freeware.. |
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Oct 23 2008, 01:00 PM
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Oct 23 2008, 01:07 PM
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7zip is good (as it's free)
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Oct 23 2008, 05:14 PM
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I use ALZip
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Oct 23 2008, 05:32 PM
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im using winrar as mostly many ppl compress their files to .rar. actually im not really concern about 7zip or winrar, as long they work find for me..
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Oct 23 2008, 08:21 PM
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i using both
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Oct 23 2008, 10:03 PM
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I use both. But my WinRAR can not extract .cbr directly (7zip can ).
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Oct 23 2008, 10:31 PM
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i prefer winrar because it have the unzip wizard.
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Oct 23 2008, 11:30 PM
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I choose WINRAR coz can make password with it..
Others compress software dunno izzit can or not..hehe.. |
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Oct 24 2008, 02:20 PM
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I use both. But winrar is better and faster
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Oct 24 2008, 06:09 PM
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seriously, i love winrar.. now we have the winrar..
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Oct 24 2008, 06:18 PM
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i choose winrar.
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Oct 24 2008, 06:20 PM
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winrar man. so fast
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Oct 24 2008, 06:40 PM
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Oct 24 2008, 08:04 PM
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QUOTE(hussam_o_r @ Oct 24 2008, 02:20 PM) QUOTE(rickrick @ Oct 24 2008, 06:20 PM) You guys are making fanboyism remarks. 7zip substantially performs better than WinRAR. But the drawback is that 7zip consumes more hardware resources during the compression. There are other software which are better than both 7zip and WinRAR in terms of speed vs compression. WinRAR, however, is pretty much user friendly but the annoying "please buy winrar" pop-up whenever you're opening a file with WinRAR make some people hate it. While 7zip is free plus you can actually playing around with the command tools. 7zip does able to make password but it cannot compressed into rar files as well as WinRAR cannot compressed into 7z files. I will only uses WinRAR if there's a need for me to compress files into rar files. Otherwise, I will stick with 7zip for decompressing files (faster than WinRAR as my PC can handle it). |
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Oct 27 2008, 12:32 PM
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7zip cannot compressed into rar files and WinRAR cannot compressed into 7z files; is it because they cannot make it or because of the copyright issue for the compression algorithm?? and the winzip format is copyright free/open source?
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Oct 27 2008, 04:02 PM
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QUOTE(Omage007 @ Oct 27 2008, 12:32 PM) 7zip cannot compressed into rar files and WinRAR cannot compressed into 7z files; is it because they cannot make it or because of the copyright issue for the compression algorithm?? and the winzip format is copyright free/open source? It's about license. WinRAR only allow it's own software to compress as rar files. Just like 7zip for it's own property. Winzip is not free however. Perhaps they already gained income generated from Microsoft as they using it as main compression thingy in windows. Also letting other developers to use their compression method. |
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Oct 28 2008, 10:48 AM
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seriously bzip2 would be the best compression, but you Windows user might not be familiar with it.
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Oct 28 2008, 09:14 PM
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QUOTE(Omage007 @ Oct 27 2008, 12:32 PM) 7zip cannot compressed into rar files and WinRAR cannot compressed into 7z files; is it because they cannot make it or because of the copyright issue for the compression algorithm?? and the winzip format is copyright free/open source? Seriously, that's a non-issue to me as usually .zip is the widely use format (as far as my work is concerned)While WinRAR is more popular and perhaps powerful, I choose 7zip because it is free and quite easy to use |
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Oct 28 2008, 09:45 PM
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its almost the same thing.i suggest you get both.
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Oct 30 2008, 11:56 PM
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winrar.hands down
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Oct 31 2008, 02:15 PM
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QUOTE(samurai1337 @ Oct 28 2008, 09:14 PM) Seriously, that's a non-issue to me as usually .zip is the widely use format (as far as my work is concerned) Powerful as in what part? The only thing that I can think WinRAR being a powerful tool is that the software itself has better user-friendly functions (short cuts, tips & helps, etc) compared to 7zip. Though, the functions are simply similar to which both WinZip and 7zip have. Based on compression, 7zip is better than WinRAR.While WinRAR is more popular and perhaps powerful, I choose 7zip because it is free and quite easy to use |
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Oct 31 2008, 04:47 PM
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I pick 7zip, free :-) and 7z format is used by some exe installer maker e.g. NSIS because of it higher compression rate.
And some open source application have an option to download 7z format file. |
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Nov 1 2008, 12:49 AM
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I previously use winzip/winrar.
But just switch to 7 zip recently. 7zip ain't bad considering that I just zip and unzip. Hardly touch any other functions. Moreover, it's free. Why not? |
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Nov 1 2008, 10:55 AM
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QUOTE(Dark Steno @ Oct 31 2008, 02:15 PM) Powerful as in what part? The only thing that I can think WinRAR being a powerful tool is that the software itself has better user-friendly functions (short cuts, tips & helps, etc) compared to 7zip. Though, the functions are simply similar to which both WinZip and 7zip have. Based on compression, 7zip is better than WinRAR. i believe winrar is multi-threaded, hence it will take advantage of multi-core processors and is faster than 7z when compressing and uncompressing |
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Nov 1 2008, 04:04 PM
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I pick 7zip because there's an x64 version.
Plus it's free. |
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Nov 1 2008, 09:23 PM
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QUOTE(TechnoDude94 @ Oct 18 2008, 08:34 PM) If you'd like high compression ratio, I'd recommend KGB Archiver but it takes 3 days to archive/compress 2GB into 2MB (Yes, it's possible!). Ever tried uncompressing the file back to its original? How long does it take? Is the unpacked file 100% the same with the original?You could hash the source files and the unpacked file with MD5 for this purpose. I for one believe lossless compression does have its limits. It depends on the data. And 2GB into 2MB for typical, usable files (videos, audio, documents) is downright impossible. Prove me wrong. Because I'd rather spend uncompressing a 2GB file in 3 days, offline rather than downloading a 2GB file for 2 days. |
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Nov 1 2008, 09:26 PM
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QUOTE(Deslack @ Nov 1 2008, 09:23 PM) Ever tried uncompressing the file back to its original? How long does it take? Is the unpacked file 100% the same with the original? You don't need to spend 2 days to download a 2GB file... nowadays we have broadband...You could hash the source files and the unpacked file with MD5 for this purpose. I for one believe lossless compression does have its limits. It depends on the data. And 2GB into 2MB for typical, usable files (videos, audio, documents) is downright impossible. Prove me wrong. Because I'd rather spend uncompressing a 2GB file in 3 days, offline rather than downloading a 2GB file for 2 days. You need only approx. 3 hours to download a 1GB file if your broadband connection is 1Mbps. |
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Nov 2 2008, 01:10 AM
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WinRAR FTW
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Nov 2 2008, 01:49 PM
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QUOTE(Golden @ Nov 1 2008, 09:26 PM) You don't need to spend 2 days to download a 2GB file... nowadays we have broadband... I don't think that holds true for BitTorrent transfers, as it is being throttled by our thoughtful and friendly ISPs despite the availability of bandwidth.You need only approx. 3 hours to download a 1GB file if your broadband connection is 1Mbps. |
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Nov 2 2008, 09:53 PM
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7zip... more user friendly(my opinion), more features (pause, estimated time, run foreground, comp/expand speed), Free (no need get piratx version) and zip format is more than enough for send files over internet
7zip FTW! |
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Nov 2 2008, 11:51 PM
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i choose 7zip
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Nov 3 2008, 01:49 PM
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QUOTE(TechnoDude94 @ Oct 18 2008, 08:34 PM) If you'd like high compression ratio, I'd recommend KGB Archiver but it takes 3 days to archive/compress 2GB into 2MB (Yes, it's possible!). sure or not? Anyway, I use 7zip most of the time. It is faster to compress/extract/open the file. |
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Nov 4 2008, 03:25 PM
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Nov 4 2008, 07:27 PM
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QUOTE(lotiman2003 @ Nov 4 2008, 03:25 PM) Its depend on the source,http://kgbarchiver.net/?page=tests eg for jpeg image and mp3, they are already compressed by lossy enocder, its unlikely can be compress any futher. btw http://www.cs.fit.edu/~mmahoney/compression/barf.html BARF, read the fist line |
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Nov 7 2008, 08:22 PM
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I use Winrar. Because i have a lot of .rar files.
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Nov 7 2008, 08:45 PM
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winrar is more common. I use 7zip rarely.
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Nov 8 2008, 12:00 PM
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Nov 8 2008, 03:51 PM
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I've recently switched to 7zip because it is free and consume less memory. The downside is only that its icons are extremely ugly, i'll have to manually change the icons for .rar, .zip, .iso, and .7z to prevent myself from uninstalling it immediately after seeing all those ugly Win 98 style icons sitting all around my laptop.
Being unable to compress files in .rar format isn't a problem for me at all. |
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Nov 8 2008, 04:04 PM
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Well I prefer to use winrar as while it has the advantage of reading every compression method out there, my image viewer supports reading data from .rar compilation, thus I can save quite a lot of space by compressing my image files. While 7z has better compression ratio, no image viewer can directly read images from it's archive, thus I don't really have any use for it.
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Nov 8 2008, 09:19 PM
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I use Winrar. Admittedly its program icon can be ugly as a goatse fug, but thankfully XPize took care of that.
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Nov 9 2008, 04:56 AM
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winrar rarararaaarrrrwwarwwwararwwww
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Nov 11 2008, 10:47 AM
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winrar ftw. been using it for many years. neva fail me.
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