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post Oct 15 2008, 08:56 AM, updated 8y ago

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Nicknames : Albicelestes (White and Sky Blue)

Association : Asociación del Fútbol Argentino (Argentine Football Association)

Confederation : CONMEBOL (South America)

Head Coach : Alejandro Sabella

Captain : Lionel Messi

Most Caps : Javier Zanetti (126)

Top Scorer : Gabriel Batistuta (56)

Home Stadium : El Monumental

FIFA Code : ARG

FIFA Ranking : 7

Highest FIFA Ranking : 1 (March 2007, October 2007-June 2008)

Lowest FIFA Ranking : 24 (August 1996)

World Cup winner : 2 (1978 and 1986)

Copa America winner : 14 (1921, 1925, 1927, 1929, 1937, 1941, 1945, 1946, 1947, 1955, 1957, 1959,
1991, 1993)

Confederation Cup winner : 1992

Official website : http://www.afa.org.ar/

Legend player :

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Full name : Diego Armando Maradona

Date of Birth : October 30, 1960

International Caps : 91

International Goals : 34

Current star player :

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Full name : Lionel Andrés Messi

Date of birth : 24 June, 1987

International Caps : 33

International Goals : 10


Next Match :
Friendlies, 19 Nov 08
Scotland - Argentina 0-1

Friendlies, 11 Feb 09
France - Argentina 0-2

World Cup Qualification CONMEBOL, 28 Mar 09
Argentina - Venezuela 4-0

World Cup Qualification CONMEBOL, 1 Apr 09
Bolivia - Argentina 6-1

World Cup Qualification CONMEBOL, 7 Jun 09
Colombia - Argentina 0-1

World Cup Qualification CONMEBOL, 11 Jun 09
Ecuador - Argentina 2-0

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post Oct 15 2008, 09:21 AM

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1st supporter reporting in.. die hard fan of argentina since maradona era.. hehehehehe
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post Oct 15 2008, 11:22 AM

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post Oct 15 2008, 11:32 AM

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not a fan, but know argentinian football quite well..im impressed with the number of emerging stars from argentina..imo, they have the best set of youngsters in the world..quite a bright future for them..

and i used to love to watch riquelme play too thumbup.gif thumbup.gif
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post Oct 15 2008, 12:24 PM

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QUOTE(matyrze @ Oct 15 2008, 11:32 AM)
not a fan, but know argentinian football quite well..im impressed with the number of emerging stars from argentina..imo, they have the best set of youngsters in the world..quite a bright future for them..

and i used to love to watch riquelme play too thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif
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but the most unfortunate thing is all their hot prospect youngster play attacking side.. and they still lack of good defender and goalkeeper till now:(
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sometimes i wonder...their under 21 squad always win the youth world cup....but their senior squad cant repeat that form...since the 1986 world cup...
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our ranking drop to no 7 ? sad.gif

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post Oct 15 2008, 12:43 PM

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post Oct 15 2008, 12:45 PM

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lolz...didn know tat got many argie fans here...... tongue.gif tongue.gif
btw pls do help me on the update of this thread.....thx.... icon_rolleyes.gif icon_rolleyes.gif

yea...gotta agree that our bright future lies with the attacking side.....the defend really so so only recently.....hope tat will improve in the future...... thumbup.gif thumbup.gif

our ranking drop to 7 due to the euro2008 and our team performance which ended in a consecutive draw..... sweat.gif sweat.gif

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good thread,for the 1st time we have South America national team here
i enjoy the way Argentina play
back in 1997 i had a chance to see Argentina juniors team training at Kuantan, Riquelme and Aimar in the squad at that time rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(faris21 @ Oct 15 2008, 12:57 PM)
good thread,for the 1st time we have South America national team here
i enjoy the way Argentina play
back in 1997 i had a chance to see Argentina juniors team training at Kuantan, Riquelme and Aimar in the squad at that time rclxms.gif
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i think got Saviola as well
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QUOTE(faris21 @ Oct 15 2008, 12:57 PM)
good thread,for the 1st time we have South America national team here
i enjoy the way Argentina play
back in 1997 i had a chance to see Argentina juniors team training at Kuantan, Riquelme and Aimar in the squad at that time rclxms.gif
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haha,when we will get Brazil thread?
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QUOTE(sanfa @ Oct 15 2008, 12:24 PM)
but the most unfortunate thing is all their hot prospect youngster play attacking side.. and they still lack of good defender and goalkeeper till now:(
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imo, while they should do better in defensive area, they also got a very promising GK in ustari..i believe he will be world class in the future..and they also have several decent young GK also..such as sergio romero and carrizo..and of course they still have abbondanzieri as their 1st choice

QUOTE(faris21 @ Oct 15 2008, 12:57 PM)
good thread,for the 1st time we have South America national team here
i enjoy the way Argentina play
back in 1997 i had a chance to see Argentina juniors team training at Kuantan, Riquelme and Aimar in the squad at that time rclxms.gif
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so am i, and i predict they will continue their trademark passing play in a distant future as they have the players required..

i am hoping gago will do well for argentina in future..he really have the talent nod.gif nod.gif

oh yeah, kinda sad, where is AIMAR??? cry.gif cry.gif cry.gif

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QUOTE(faris21 @ Oct 15 2008, 12:57 PM)
good thread,for the 1st time we have South America national team here
i enjoy the way Argentina play
back in 1997 i had a chance to see Argentina juniors team training at Kuantan, Riquelme and Aimar in the squad at that time rclxms.gif
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that time was world youth cup in malaysia...right??? i remember watch the final between argentina and uruguay at stadium shah alam that time....they are really impressive...the player from that youth squad that i know at that time is pablo aimar....but now he is not good like his younger day...guess his peak time has passed already...


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that 11 years ago,player like Quintana and Bernardo Romeo also dissapear already
sometime i also thinking why Argentina can deliver in WC while easily can win WC U21 and WC U17,they just like Spain,have good young team but senior team can deliver in WC
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QUOTE(skystrike @ Oct 15 2008, 12:29 PM)
sometimes i wonder...their under 21 squad always win the youth world cup....but their senior squad cant repeat that form...since the 1986 world cup...
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coz the other U21 national squad is not good as argentina.. but when its come to senior squad, experienced player will have advantage at some stage..(like italy national team).. plus, there is no balance between defending and attacking side in argentina national team.. they have a very fast and skillfull attacking side, but when they got counter attack by opponent, they can't defend well.. i hope someday they will be an argentine player who play as good as Terry in defending side.. brows.gif
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QUOTE(faris21 @ Oct 15 2008, 03:05 PM)
that 11 years ago,player like Quintana and Bernardo Romeo also dissapear already
sometime i also thinking why Argentina cant deliver in WC while easily can win WC U21 and WC U17,they just like Spain,have good young team but senior team cant deliver in WC
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yeah...their young squad especially under 21 is da best in da world...but their senior squad is not that good..

another thing...they lack of big n tall defender....their defender is world class but lack of height...like gabriel milito n roberto ayala(is he still playing???)

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QUOTE(skystrike @ Oct 15 2008, 03:12 PM)
FIXED!!!
yeah...their young squad especially under 21 is da best in da world...but their senior squad is not that good..

another thing...they lack of big n tall defender....their defender is world class but lack of height...like gabriel milito n roberto ayala(is he still playing???)
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yea...he still playing in 1 of the club in the argentine league.....a legend defender for argentina....his boot got spring n can jump so high everytime...... thumbup.gif thumbup.gif

btw, i personally dun prefer abbondazerri (dunno how to spell sweat.gif sweat.gif ) to be argie no 1 GK.....i didnt c any confidence in his eye every1.....better giv ustari the chance...... hmm.gif hmm.gif
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Argentina forced to field team without Riquelme

Argentina will finally find out whether or not they can play better without enigmatic midfielder Juan Roman Riquelme when they face Chile in their World Cup qualifier on Wednesday.

Riquelme has been ever-present in the nine matches of the campaign so far but, after several lethargic displays, an increasing number of critics have been clamouring for coach Alfio Basile to field a team without him.

Basile, who has publicly confessed his admiration for the former Barcelona and Villarreal player, has been forced by circumstances to oblige after Riquelme picked up a second yellow card in Saturday's 2-1 win over Uruguay and is suspended.

"Of course, it's an important loss for the team," said captain Javier Zanetti. "He's a player who can make a difference at any moment, especially from a set piece.

"Fortunately, we are lucky enough as a country to have a lot of top level players, so there won't be any problem in covering his absence."

Forward Carlos Tevez is also suspended while striker Sergio Aguero, midfielder Javier Mascherano and defender Martin Demichelis are doubtful.

Aguero's eventual absence could force Basile to again bow to the critics and field a conventional target man in Diego Milito.

Argentina finally ended a run of six successive draws on Saturday although their performance was lacklustre as they were dragged into a vicious kicking match by their neighbours. Basile's side are third in the 10-team group with 16 points.

The match will pit Basile's team against their former coach Marcelo Bielsa, who during his six years with Argentina rarely gave Riquelme much of a look-in.

As Chile coach, Bielsa has boldly put his faith in a crop of young players. So far, his team have performed inconsistently but are fourth in the 10-team table with 13 points.

The hosts have two of their regular three-man defence, Gonzalo Jara and Ismael Fuentes, suspended after being sent off in Sunday's 1-0 loss in Ecuador, along with midfielder Roberto Cereceda and forward Alexis Sanchez who have been booked twice.

The gifted but temperamental Jorge Valdivia, who has completed a 10-match international suspension for indiscipline at last year's Copa America, is expected to get another chance in midfield.

Teams:

Chile: Claudio Bravo; Gary Medel, Waldo Ponce, Marco Estrada; Arturo Vidal, Carlos Carmona, Jorge Valdivia, Gonzalo Fierro, Mark Gonzalez; Humberto Suazo, Jean Beausejour Argentina: Juan Pablo Carrizo; Javier Zanetti, Nicolas Burdisso, Martin Demichelis, Gabriel Heinze; Javier Mascherano, Esteban Cambiasso, Cristian Ledesma, Angel Di Maria; Lionel Messi, Sergio Aguero or Diego Milito

Source: http://soccernet.espn.go.com/preview?id=230043&cc=4716

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i heard radio today Chile`s legend Zamorano said Argentina current squad really depend on Kun and Messi,still have many game to go so u guys no need to worry
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What happened to Arg's? Losing vital games in WC Qualifiers is not something fancied..

They need to have the attitude of champions..Olympic spirits!!
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QUOTE(faris21 @ Oct 16 2008, 07:27 PM)
i heard radio today Chile`s legend Zamorano said Argentina current squad  really depend on Kun and Messi,still have many game to go so u guys no need to worry
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QUOTE(zamarano @ Oct 17 2008, 12:33 PM)
r u talking about my brother  tongue.gif  biggrin.gif
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sigh arg losing 1-0...
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QUOTE(zamarano @ Oct 17 2008, 12:33 PM)
r u talking about my brother  tongue.gif  biggrin.gif
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r u put ur nick name after Ivan Zamorano?? laugh.gif
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Argentina coach Basile quits after Chile loss

Alfio Basile has resigned as coach of Argentina, the country's football association have confirmed.

Wednesday's 1-0 defeat to Chile in Santiago left Argentina seven points behind South American leaders Paraguay in their World Cup qualifying group, while they have won only one World Cup qualifier this year, a 2-1 home triumph over Uruguay on Saturday following four consecutive draws against Ecuador, Brazil, Paraguay and Peru, to lie third in the standings.

Basile's resignation brings the curtain down on the 64-year-old`s second stint in charge of the national team.

He had previously led Argentina to the 1994 World Cup in USA before they were knocked out in the second round by Romania, prompting him to quit.

Basile took the helm once more after the 2006 World Cup following Jose Pekerman`s resignation and guided Argentina to the final of the Copa America in 2007, where they lost 3-0 to arch-rivals Brazil.

Sergio Batista, who was part of the 1986 World Cup-winning side, is certain to be among the front-runners to replace Basile after coaching Argentina to gold at this summer`s Olympic Games.

"I'm convinced I can coach the senior team. If it's my turn, I will take it," he said.

River Plate boss Diego Simeone and Miguel Angel Russo, coach of league leaders San Lorenzo, are other potential candidates.

Midfielder Lionel Messi had earlier expressed his deep disappointment at Argentina`s performance against Chile.

"The truth is that we've done everything badly," he said.

"I know I didn't play well. We all didn't play well. We must correct a lot of things for the future."

Grondona admitted Basile's decision had caught him off-guard.

"I'm surprised. Basile told me he resigned for personal reasons. I don't know which those reasons are, time will tell," he said.

"I wasn't expecting this. I guess he was feeling uncomfortable for some reason but if we look at our qualifying position, we were not too bad."

Grondona echoed Bialo's comments that the AFA had not yet begun the search for a new boss.

"We can't talk about the successor yet. It's too soon," he added.


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so who will be new coach,i just like Pekerman,where is he now
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tat basile guy should be sack earlier......he just dun have the quality to be argies coach.....i still cannot forget when we lose 3-0 to brazil in the latest copa america final.......by tat time i know tat this coach will not bring any good to the team....... notworthy.gif notworthy.gif

i also keen on them to bring back pekerman...... thumbup.gif thumbup.gif



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There's rumors Maradona wants to be the next head coach. Inexperience, can?
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QUOTE(Meganova @ Oct 19 2008, 09:09 PM)
There's rumors Maradona wants to be the next head coach. Inexperience, can?
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then argentina will play with all out attack formation... laugh.gif
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Basile quits as coach of Argentina, and going by some of the comments, the Argentine fans aren't too heartbroken over his departure.
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Maradona has just said that he would love to coach the NT. His recent quote was “To coach the selection would be like touching Heaven with my hands.”

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I'm sure the Italian government would want him to settle his taxes before he literally touches heaven with his hands as well.
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i don't think druggy would make the best of coaches.. he's a legend alright.. but coaching the team is a whole new ball game.. i'd say bring back pekerman.. he had them playing some fine football..
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they are good with juz messi around....haha
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Unless they try to cold out Requelme... he is old... and not stable...
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QUOTE(billneedme @ Oct 23 2008, 03:52 AM)
Unless they try to cold out Requelme... he is old... and not stable...
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the problem wit riquelme is tat he is a bit slow....whenever ppl mark him tightly then he cannot produce his magic again....i do think lucho gonzalez will be a better option for a playmaker role or else bring back aimar to try n c c...i miss him very much.... thumbup.gif thumbup.gif
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I do not agree that Riquelme is too "old" for the team. If you watch their game closely, you will notice that he is a vital catalyst in the current formation. His "magic" does not depend on speed at all. His vision is second to none and with good attacking wingers and strikers who can make those clever runs, like Messi, El Kun etc his skill is desperately needed. Instead of calling him slow or old, i tend to think he is a clever and intelligent player. By playing at his own pace, he is forcing the opponent to slow down and lose their shape. This is very effective and have been proven so countless times.

Argentina have been blessed with alot of attacking talents through the years. They are going through a bumpy patch as all teams would and i m optimistic that they will rebound in great style soon, provided of course the right coach is hired.

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maradona new head coach? possible anot? i dun think so..
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QUOTE(uNeVErwaLkaloNe @ Oct 15 2008, 01:13 PM)
i think got Saviola as well
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Masche Backs Maradona For Argentina Job

Los Albicelestes are in the market for a new coach following Alfio Basile's surprise resignation after the recent World Cup qualifying loss to Chile.

And Mascherano believes Maradona, widely regarded as the world's greatest ever footballer, is an ideal candidate to take the reins.

"Maradona can contribute to the team all of his experience," the Liverpool midfielder said in the Daily Mail. "What he has given us as a player, no other player could give that to Argentina. He has given us so much."

Maradona, whose club career took him to Barcelona and Napoli, is one of several former Argentine internationals vying for the job.

Sergio Batista, who also lifted the Copa Mundial in 1986, has been appointed as caretaker coach and is among the favourites to get the gig on a full-time basis.

River Plate manager Diego Simeone, Maradona's team-mate at Sevilla during the early 1990s, is also in the frame, and Mascherano is confident that whatever decision is made will be the right one.

"There are big names," said the 24-year-old, who has 45 caps for his country. "They are coaches who have triumphed, each in their own way.

"Hopefully, what comes to pass will be the best for Argentine football, because we are a year and a half away from a World Cup and we have to qualify. It seems a like a long time away, but it is nothing."

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QUOTE(chcher @ Oct 23 2008, 05:33 PM)
I do not agree that Riquelme is too "old" for the team. If you watch their game closely, you will notice that he is a vital catalyst in the current formation. His  "magic" does not depend on speed at all. His vision is second to none and with good attacking wingers and strikers who can make those clever runs, like Messi, El Kun etc his skill is desperately needed. Instead of calling him slow or old, i tend to think he is a clever and intelligent player. By playing at his own pace, he is forcing the opponent to slow down and lose their shape. This is very effective and have been proven so countless times.

Argentina have been blessed with alot of attacking talents through the years. They are going through a bumpy patch as all teams would and i m optimistic that they will rebound in great style soon, provided of course the right coach is hired.
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Argentina performance collaspe everytime he is not doing well.. too rely on him is not a good thing, see wat french suffer now??? Call back Zidane??
Start to let new star a chance... Olympic gold medal team...
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Maradona to become next coach of Argentina

Argentinian football legend Diego Maradona is set to be named coach of the national side after he came out of a meeting with Argentinian Football Association president Julio Grondona on Tuesday.

The Argentina legend is back in the game.

The Albicelestes have been without a coach since Alfio Basile stepped down for personal reasons on October 16 and although Grondona has yet to announce it to the press, reports suggest that the official presentation will take place on Thursday.

Former Argentina coach Carlos Bilardo was also at the meeting, and it is understood he could become a technical director in the new set-up.

Maradona told Radio La Red: "My first job will be watching the players. I'll try to talk to them one by one and then work at the training camp in Ezeiza with them.

"I arrived from Georgia at 10am and three hours later I was having a shower to meet Julio (Grondona). As I was going to the meeting, I thought it was some kind of hidden camera (show).

"The direction Julio wants for the national team is the same Bilardo and I have. My job will be watching the players and picking up the ones who are in the best form."

Maradona has little coaching experience, having been in charge of Deportivo Mandiyu for two months in 1994 and Racing Club for four months in 1995.

Now, he faces the task of helping Argentina improve their form with the Albicelestes having won just one of their last seven World Cup qualifiers to lie third in the South American Zone.

The former Argentina captain told FOX Sports: "The offer from Julio Grondona attracted me a lot. As soon as it is confirmed, I will start working, but I can say I am very proud.

"I'm putting everything aside for this. There is nothing that can make me look past the national team. Today my path is the national team, my task is to talk to the players and build a solid group. I am sure the guys and Argentinian football will pull through.

"I think we must make the players understand that our shirt is the most important thing, that they cannot exchange money for glory. Glory is much more than money. I know they know that, but we must make them remember that every day.

"We have enough quality to calm the nation. The road to the World Cup is not easy, but I believe in the Argentinian players. Everybody wants to play at the World Cup but we must show our traditions and our style on the field."

Prior to the meeting, Grondona told Uruguayan radio station Colonia the Argentinian Football Association were considering ditching the traditional one-coach system in favour of a committee.

"Responsibility cannot only be on one person and we are analysing whether we continue with the one-coach system or we change it by forming a coaching body," Grondona told Colonia.

"One person can never control everything. That system is not working. Coaches are only staying in charge for two or three games. When a forward misses a goal, everybody is looking at the coach and immediately pointing at him.

"I really don't know if all the coaches agree with the idea of a group. Anyway, we are not in a hurry."

Meanwhile, Pedro Troglio, coach of Paraguayan club Cerro Porteno, claims he has already been approached by Maradona to become a member of the new Argentina set-up.

"I am extremely happy, but I must keep my feet on the ground," Maradona's former international team-mate told the Ole newspaper. "The world's best player has called me.

"It was a huge surprise. Being aware that your name is included as possible coaching staff is amazing, but we'll have to wait to see whether Diego is selected."

The 48-year-old Maradona - who almost single-handedly led Argentina to the 1986 World Cup trophy - won crucial support last week in his bid to become the next Argentina coach when the man charged with finding Alfio Basile's successor threw his weight behind the World Cup winning skipper.

"I'd like Maradona to be the next coach," said Noray Nakis, the president of the Argentina Football Association (AFA) selection commission.

Maradona faced competition for the job from Carlos Bianchi, the former coach of Boca Juniors, whom he led to four national league titles, San Lorenzo coach Miguel Angel Russo and Sergio Batista who took the Under-23 squad to Olympic gold in Beijing in August.

Liverpool and Argentina midfielder Javier Mascherano said that Maradona, widely regarded as the world's greatest ever footballer, is an ideal candidate to take the reins.

"Maradona can contribute to the team all of his experience," he told the Daily Mail. "What he has given us as a player, no other player could give that to Argentina. He has given us so much."

Maradona is not expected to take charge of the team until after the friendly against Scotland on November 19, a game in which Under-21 boss Batista will probably oversee.

His first official game as coach should be a friendly against France on February 11.

Source : http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id...cup2010&cc=4716

A legend will be managing argentina........GG.....i'm ecstatic
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Maradona is back for the game. I wonder what can he bring in for Argentina.
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Maradona new Argentina Coach
Tuesday 28 October, 2008
Napoli legend Diego Armando Maradona has been appointed the new Coach of Argentina, it has been confirmed.

Il Pibe de Oro met with the AFA chiefs in Buenos Aires today and the decision was announced this evening for a new course of action following Alfio Basile’s dismissal.

Maradona will be part of a ‘working group’ alongside other tacticians with the Seleccion, according to comments made by President Julio Grondona.

Carlos Bilardo, who was in charge of the 1986 World Cup winning squad, has confirmed he will be “the new director general.”

Former Lazio, Verona and Ascoli midfielder Pedro Troglio is the assistant manager to Maradona.

Diego turns 48 on Thursday and had the greatest years of his career at the San Paolo, scoring 115 goals in 259 games and winning two Scudetti with Napoli.

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wah.. maradonna still the touch of futbol anot.. dun make the team upside down can edi.. smile.gif
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with maradona as a head coach...i believe argentina will go with more attacking gameplay n formation...
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with maradona as a head coach...i believe argentina will go with more attacking gameplay n formation...
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so do I....argentina r born with many attacking talents.....so they should be playing more attacking styles football instead of defending....... thumbup.gif thumbup.gif
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But i a bit pessimistic on diego ability.. since his managing record under club is not so impressive.. a bit awful...
Anyway.. hope this lengend of Argen can input the spirit into the club..

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Club different mah. Bcoz choice of players might limitted. Now he got all the cards he wants, let see how he play it.
Maradona is different, he is like modern football artist. He don't talk about system. He wants is master piece of game. Attacking is always beautiful than defending. He will played out his passion of beautiful.
Now playing football is like wanted to win, regardless how is the game being played.
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Maradona takes over as Argentina coach

BUENOS AIRES, November 4 (National Team) - The Argentinian Football Association have confirmed Diego Maradona as the new head coach of the national team.

The appointment was ratified by the AFA board at a meeting in Buenos Aires on Tuesday.

The 48-year-old replaces Alfio Basile, who stepped down from the post for personal reasons on October 16.

It has been widely reported that Maradona will sign a contract until the end of the 2010 World Cup in South Africa, assuming the team qualify.

Maradona's first game at the helm will be against Scotland at Glasgow's Hampden Park on November 19.

AFA president Julio Grondona has also appointed Carlos Bilardo as the technical secretary of the national teams.

Bilardo was Argentina coach when Maradona skippered the side to World Cup glory in 1986, and will work closely with his former player in the new set-up.

"Being the coach of the national team coach and being alongside Carlos is an honour for me," said Maradona.

"I will do my best to succeed. We will work every day to make Argentina have a better national team day by day. I thank Julio, my family and my daughters."

Maradona becomes Argentina coach despite the fact he has little coaching experience, having been in charge of Deportivo Mandiyu for two months in 1994 and Racing Club for four months in 1995.

The appointment of the experienced Bilardo, therefore, is likely to be crucial to how well Maradona performs in his new role.

Argentina are in desperate need of an upturn in form, having won just one of their last seven World Cup qualifiers to lie third in the South American Zone.

Source: http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=589056&cc=4716

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MARADONA: I WANT MASCH AS SKIPPER

New Argentina coach Diego Maradona has revealed he wants Javier Mascherano to be his new captain.
Maradono was today confirmed as the new boss of the Argentine national side and immediately pinpointed the Liverpool midfielder as the man he wants to lead his country.

"I want Mascherano to be my captain because I believe he is the Argentinian player who is closest to the idea I have about the Argentinian shirt - sweat for it, sacrifice for it, being a professional, being close to the team-mate," he said.

"I will convince him. He will be my captain."
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So i think, Argentina will be clear favaourite to win World Cup. Maybe Maradona is the missing jigsaw puzzle to argentina.


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QUOTE(zamarano @ Nov 5 2008, 08:13 AM)
MARADONA: I WANT MASCH AS SKIPPER

New Argentina coach Diego Maradona has revealed he wants Javier Mascherano to be his new captain.
Maradono was today confirmed as the new boss of the Argentine national side and immediately pinpointed the Liverpool midfielder as the man he wants to lead his country.
 
"I want Mascherano to be my captain because I believe he is the Argentinian player who is closest to the idea I have about the Argentinian shirt - sweat for it, sacrifice for it, being a professional, being close to the team-mate," he said.
 
"I will convince him. He will be my captain."
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is he willing to take the armband from zanetti?
i read an article,he said dat he is not interested in that position.

BUT with no doubt i'm sure he will success if taking the chance given! nod.gif

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Maradona pleased with 'positive' Messi meeting

New Argentina coach Diego Maradona admitted he had a "very positive" meeting with Lionel Messi but was unable to speak to Barcelona president Joan Laporta about releasing the forward for the upcoming friendly against Scotland.

A pre-existing agreement between the Argentina Football Association (AFA) and Barcelona means Messi is unable to play in friendlies for his country apart from very special occasions.

Even though Maradona said he will respect the verbal agreement when he was officially unveiled as the new coach of the national team on Tuesday, he is still keen to recruit Messi for his first game in charge against Scotland on November 19.

"We are very happy with the meeting with Leo because it was very positive," said Maradona. "It's great that he wants to play all the matches in the national team. We are satisfied by that."

This meeting was only the first step of a European tour where Maradona will meet most of the players he has called up to play Scotland at Hampden Park in Glasgow.

However, the 48-year-old was unable to meet Laporta where it is believed he was keen to ask about releasing Messi to play at least this friendly - his first match at the helm - but the president of the Catalan side postponed the meeting because of a flight to Brussels.

Maradona later travels to England to speak to Manchester United forward Carlos Tevez and Liverpool midfielder Javier Mascherano, who he is keen to convince to accept an offer of being captain of the national team.

Source : http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=589857&cc=4716

zzz....sometimes i really do think those club are so selfish.....messi wasn't force to play for argentina in some of the match but it is his own will to play......but their club just ignored it..... shakehead.gif shakehead.gif
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Maradona pleased with 'positive' Messi meeting

New Argentina coach Diego Maradona admitted he had a "very positive" meeting with Lionel Messi but was unable to speak to Barcelona president Joan Laporta about releasing the forward for the upcoming friendly against Scotland.

A pre-existing agreement between the Argentina Football Association (AFA) and Barcelona means Messi is unable to play in friendlies for his country apart from very special occasions.

Even though Maradona said he will respect the verbal agreement when he was officially unveiled as the new coach of the national team on Tuesday, he is still keen to recruit Messi for his first game in charge against Scotland on November 19.

"We are very happy with the meeting with Leo because it was very positive," said Maradona. "It's great that he wants to play all the matches in the national team. We are satisfied by that."

This meeting was only the first step of a European tour where Maradona will meet most of the players he has called up to play Scotland at Hampden Park in Glasgow.

However, the 48-year-old was unable to meet Laporta where it is believed he was keen to ask about releasing Messi to play at least this friendly - his first match at the helm - but the president of the Catalan side postponed the meeting because of a flight to Brussels.

Maradona later travels to England to speak to Manchester United forward Carlos Tevez and Liverpool midfielder Javier Mascherano, who he is keen to convince to accept an offer of being captain of the national team.

Source : http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=589857&cc=4716

zzz....sometimes i really do think those club are so selfish.....messi wasn't force to play for argentina in some of the match but it is his own will to play......but their club just ignored it..... shakehead.gif  shakehead.gif
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Messi is a very important player for both barca and argentina. It's gonna be sooner or later before he becomes world player of the year. Let Ronaldo have it this year, he quite rightly deserved it for all his contributions last season for Manchester United. But soon, Messi is gonna be a force to reckon! Not like is isnt already, but the time will come where he'll be Numero Uno!
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Mascherano named new Argentina captain

Liverpool midfielder Javier Mascherano has agreed to captain Argentina under new coach Diego Maradona.

"I've convinced him," Maradona told Radio La Red after returning from a six-day trip to Europe during which he visited a number of his top players.

"I explained to him what I thought about him and told him what I thought he could give the team."

Mascherano, 24, initially said he did not feel ready to take on the responsibility.

Maradona is also hoping to make former defender Oscar Ruggeri his assistant despite media reports of opposition from Argentina Football Association president Julio Grondona.

"I don't think Oscar's impossible," said Maradona.

The choice of his assistant has already become a hot topic.

At one stage Maradona said Jose Luis Brown and Sergio Batista, team mates from the 1986 World Cup-winning side, would take on the role. But he then changed his mind, saying the decision was not final.

Ruggeri's recent coaching record would make him a controversial choice.

He resigned at Mexico's Tecos UAG after losing his first six games in 2003, then took charge of Independiente in his homeland before resigning four months later after being jeered and insulted by fans at a home game.

In 2004 he went to Spanish second division club Elche but was fired after 20 games. He returned to Mexico and joined America, the country's richest club, and this time lasted six matches.

Ruggeri's last coaching job was with San Lorenzo in 2006 where he was again fired after poor results including a 7-1 home defeat by Boca Juniors.

Source : http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id...cup2010&cc=4716


looks lik we'll have a new captain as well......mascherano certainly is a suitable choice... rclxms.gif rclxms.gif ..
but wat have worried me now is the staff.....y in the earth maradona still wanna hired some1 with such bad record in managing his previous team as his assistant?? maradona himself already dun hav much experience in coaching and yet he still hired some1 with such bad record as his assistant??? rclxub.gif rclxub.gif
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Maradona aims to restore pride

Diego Maradona, making the biggest comeback of his rollercoaster career since the 1994 FIFA World Cup™, was set to take his first training session as Argentina coach at Celtic Park on Monday. Imbuing his protégés with a sense of what it means to wear the Argentina shirt was his priority as he faced his debut against Scotland in a friendly at Hampden Park on Wednesday with minimal coaching experience under his belt.

Looking back at his matches for Argentina, particularly when he inspired them to world glory in 1986, Maradona said: "Today (the players) can have a guide who will tell them what the shirt is about. "I hope (the story) finishes in the same way (in South Africa in 2010). For now we're taking it step by step," he told Argentine reporters on Sunday night following his arrival in Glasgow from Buenos Aires.

Unhappy with the attitude he saw in the team in their last match under former coach Alfio Basile, a 1-0 defeat in a FIFA World Cup qualifier away to Chile, Maradona said: "I haven't got the working time to ask for anything more. I just have to throw the team onto the pitch and the change in attitude is what is going to make this national team change."

Maradona, whose comeback at the 1994 finals in the United States ended prematurely after a second suspension in three years for drug use, had brief, spells as a club coach a decade ago. His appointment to succeed Basile, who resigned after the Chile defeat, was met with more apprehension than joy but his diehard fans believe he can inspire Argentina to a third FIFA World Cup victory.

Looking beyond Wednesday's friendly, Maradona underlined the importance to the side of Lionel Messi and Juan Roman Riquelme despite their absence in Glasgow. "Messi will do a bit of everything. I liked his last match as a passer (of the ball), not always wanting to finish the move himself, carrying the move and making someone else finish. That's the Messi I want," he said.

"The (number) 10? I'll surely give it to Roman, for all he represents, for the team's style, the dead ball (situations), for everything he shows in every match he plays."


cant wait for maradona debut match.....
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Added on November 19, 2008, 10:51 amThere will a delayed broadcast for the match between scotland between argentina

20 Nov 0550 Scotland vs Argentina (Delayed) astro channel 811

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Classy Maxi winner for Maradona

A Maxi Rodriguez goal after eight minutes against Scotland at Hampden gave Diego Maradona victory in his first game in charge of Argentina.

Allan McGregor made a great save from Argentina skipper Javier Mascherano before Rodriguez finished off a fine move by sliding the ball past the Scotland keeper from close range.

The South Americans, slick and speedy at times, appeared to ease off after their blistering start but still dominated most of the match, leaving the Scots looking for their first friendly win at the national stadium since 1996.

Most of the attention before the game was on Maradona, who returned to Glasgow for the first time since he scored his first goal for Argentina in a 3-1 friendly win at Hampden in 1979.

The former Napoli and Barcelona superstar was given a huge roar of approval from the Tartan Army, mostly for his 'Hand of God' goal against England in the 1986 World Cup.

There was a minute's silence for former Scotland manager Ian McColl and Pedro Pompilio, the President of Boca Juniors and First Vice President of the Argentinian Football Association, who both passed away in recent weeks.

Maradona must have been pleased when the action started as the visitors produced an opening 10 minutes of breathtaking football after which they were ahead and cruising.

Defender Martin Demichelis headed a Joan Gutierrez corner just past the post after a minute.

Five minutes later, with the South Americans in complete control, McGregor was forced into a fabulous save from Mascherano's long-range volley.

Argentina scored the opener with another fine move that split open the Scotland defence.

The tireless Carlos Tevez picked up the ball on the right-hand side of the box, slipping it to Gutierrez, whose short, first-time pass put Rodriguez in and the Atletico Madrid player clinically slid the ball past McGregor from close range.

In the 19th minute, with no change in the pattern of play, Tevez sent Ezequiel Lavezzi through on goal with a slide-rule pass and McGregor had to block the angled shot from close range with his feet.

It looked as if it was going to be a long night for George Burley's side but at the other end moments later, with Scotland's first attempt on goal, James McFadden's shot from a Kris Commons' cross was blocked for a corner by Demichelis, which the visitors survived.

However, Argentina bared their teeth again in the 35th minute when defender Javier Zanetti raced down the right and cut the ball back to Tevez, who had time to take a touch on the edge of the box before blazing over the bar.

Then five minutes from the break, some hesitation from Demichelis inside the Argentina penalty area as he ushered the ball back to his keeper allowed McFadden to rob him but the Birmingham striker's low drive was too weak to bother Juan Pablo Carrizo.

Chris Iwelumo, ineffective in the first 45 minutes, was replaced by Aberdeen striker Lee Miller at the interval and he was given time to ease himself into the game as the visitors failed to replicate their opening salvo.

But in the 51st minute, after Scotland tried unsuccessfully to pass their way out of defence, Lavezzi drove over the bar from just inside the box.

It was indicative of the South Americans' more casual approach to the game, although there was still the occasional shaft of skill to light up proceedings, provided by Tevez in the 58th minute when he burst forward with pace only to once again drive over.

Argentina dropped the tempo and Scotland sensed there was a way back but there appeared to be a lack of cutting edge to the home side's play.

In the 70th minute, Miller passed up a great chance to equalise when he headed a corner from substitute Shaun Maloney, on for Paul Hartley, past the post from around six yards out.

Three minutes later, after McManus had fouled Demichelis 25 yards from goal, Gabriel Heinze curled a free-kick two yards over the bar.

The game petered out and the Scottish fans in the 32,492 crowd left the ground perhaps grateful the visitors had not registered a more convincing win.


Yea....1st win for Maradona......sweet victory......there's also a new leftback making his debut for argentina......emiliano papa....hope he will improved in the future......good perfromance from the argies........

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First match and come with first win..
But still too early to judge him...
Let see what will going on....
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how Jonas performance at those match?
does him and collochini are regular player for first eleven of Argentina?

i nvr see him play at international level b4...just club only tongue.gif
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jonas performance was great......the goal scored by maxi was assist by him.....coloccini didn play tat day.....tat day their CB was heinze n demechelis....... thumbup.gif thumbup.gif
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so he plays at RW...?
who else play at those position..Riquelme?

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so he plays at RW...?
who else play at those position..Riquelme?
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nope...jonas play as LW.....RW is maxi rodriguez.....riquelme is playing as CM.......btw our next match will eb against the French.....a real test for maradona....... nod.gif nod.gif
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Good goal by Gutierrez, but I think the pitch made the ball too bouncy for Mandanda. Gutierrez was a bit lucky in scoring his first international goal.
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messi is really on fire.....scoring goal for fun tis season......i have high hope to c Argentina lift a major trophy in the near future........ thumbup.gif thumbup.gif
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I missed this match. Coz I tune to other match. So how was the performance? Heard Messi was so great, and yet he revealed that he didn't performed as good as he did at Barca. Wonder why he said like that.

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Watched the match, Messi played good as usual, but not his best performance, even though he did score a goal in the end. Maybe he's expecting more from his team mates like Aguerro whom didnt do as good. I think this new team under Maradona would take some time to build chemistry but they're on the way there.

France played good also, they keep the ball most on the first half. Should they get the penalty before Gutierrez scored, could have changed the course of the game.

Anyway, im glad Argentina won the game. I hope they can win World Cup next year, its been way overdue since 1986.
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Maradona tells striker Crespo to leave Inter


Argentina boss Diego Maradona has named Hernan Crespo in his provisional squad for the upcoming World Cup qualifiers, but told the striker he should leave Inter Milan if he wants to stay a part of his plans.
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Crespo has been a peripheral figure at the San Siro since the arrival of boss Jose Mourinho in the summer and Maradona revealed he has advised the 33-year-old to quit Inter in the summer or risk losing his place in the national team.

"Crespo does not play in Inter and I have told him to leave the club in June," Maradona revealed. "I told him: 'Get out of there and play, Hernan. Put me in an awkward position.'"

Maradona named two new names in his 26-man squad for the World Cup qualifiers against Venezuela and Bolivia at the end of the month, with defender Juan Forlin and goalkeeper Federico Vilar called up.

Forlin, 20, had been named in a domestic-based training squad in December, but will join the national team for the first time ahead of Venezuela's visit to Buenos Aires on March 28.

"When I was told that I had a chance to join the national squad I was very proud," Forlin told TyC sports television network.

"I want to work closely with the boss and I will play wherever he needs me to."

Following Juan Roman Riquelme's decision to quit the national team earlier this week, Maradona admitted he has endured arguably the toughest week of his time in charge of the national team.

Riquelme revealed on Tuesday that he would not play for Argentina again while Maradona was in charge, claiming his decision had been prompted by a "difference in principals" with his national team boss.

The Boca Juniors playmaker also said he had been disappointed Maradona had not contacted him last month when he was left out of the squad that played France in a friendly.

"I do not regret anything at all. I sleep great," Maradona told Clarin newspaper.

"I know I did things correctly, but it makes me sad that I will not be able to count on Riquelme.

"Everything is so weird. I do not know what he was told. I called him five times, I phoned him from my home. I left him several messages and he never answered."

Maradona has since admitted it is a blow to lose Riqueleme's influential talents in midfield, but has put his confidence in Independiente's Daniel Montenegro to fill his shoes.

He added: "I like having a playmaker and Riquelme fitted that role perfectly, but we have Montenegro. He will wear the number 10 shirt."

Maradona denied he thought of leaving his post during this week's controversy, saying the talent of his squad ensured he would remain.

"It is very hard to be the national squad boss, but I never though of resigning," he said.

"Why not? Because of (Javier) Mascherano, (Martin) Demichelis, (Sergio Aguero) Kun, Leo (Messi), (Juan) Carrizo, (Javier) Zanetti and (Emiliano) Papa.

"Nobody will force me to leave because I have my players. It took me so long to get this job and I enjoy it because I know that I have a team of men.

"The fact that one soldier has fallen does not mean the whole team does not still stand strong."

Argentina currently sit third in the South American World Cup qualification table, seven points behind leaders Paraguay.

They host Venezuela in Buenos Aires on March 28 before travelling to La Paz to play Bolivia three days later.

Argentina squad: Juan Carrizo (Lazio), Mariano Andujar (Estudiantes La Plata), Federico Vilar (Atlante); Javier Zanetti (Inter Milan), Emiliano Papa (Velez Sarsfield), Gabriel Heinze (Real Madrid), Daniel Diaz (Getafe), Walter Samuel (Inter Milan), Juan Forlin (Boca Juniors), Marcos Angeleri (Estudiantes La Plata), Martin Demichelis (Bayern Munich); Javier Mascherano (Liverpool), Fernando Gago (Real Madrid), Maximiliano Rodriguez (Atletico Madrid), Jonas Gutierrez (Newcastle United), Sebastian Battaglia (Boca Juniors), Luis Gonzalez (Porto), Juan Sebastian Veron (Estudiantes La Plata), Angel Di Maria (Benfica), Daniel Montenegro (Independiente); Lionel Messi (Barcelona), Sergio Aguero (Atletico Madrid), Carlos Tevez (Manchester United), Lisandro Lopez (Porto), Diego Milito (Genoa), Ezequiel Lavezzi (Napoli).


The international match is back......hope that we will do well against venezuela and bolivia in our qualifying game.......

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Why want to speak about Crespo. Just give Lavezzi more chances laa.
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Why want to speak about Crespo. Just give Lavezzi more chances laa.
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becoz crespo is still deadly in front of goal......after the retirement of batistuta, he is our top scorer for argentina......n u can c he still effective in front of goal when he came on for inter tat day in a serie a match n score in tat match........maybe maradona wanna give him somemore chances........ rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
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final score....bolivia 6 argentina 1.............. shocking.gif shocking.gif

kena trash kao kao......... sweat.gif sweat.gif

really hard to play at bolivia place........zzzz
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and i thought TS wrote the scoreline terbalik....chk agin in soccernet, really kena hentam by bolivia 1-6.....sweat.gif
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and i thought TS wrote the scoreline terbalik....chk agin in soccernet, really kena hentam by bolivia 1-6.....sweat.gif
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what a result,Bolivia really take advantage of high altitude pitch
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did argies play with 9 or 10 men? to lose 6-1 is really shocking
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6-1... means bolivia is better than liverpool?pool only thrash ppl in 4-0 4-1 5-0
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hahaha i have never seen the big boys like argies will kena hentam this heavily laugh.gif doh.gif don't tell me this maradona feed the players with 10 bottles of alcohol b4 the match that cause the heavy defeat laugh.gif jk tongue.gif
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QUOTE(uNeVErwaLkaloNe @ Apr 2 2009, 10:36 AM)
did argies play with 9 or 10 men? to lose 6-1 is really shocking
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well....there was a sent off which is angel di maria but at tat time argentina already down by at least 4 goal.......so not affected at all.....its due to their performance.....such a disappointment........ cry.gif cry.gif

OT: after argentina get thrash by bolivia, tis thread is alive again...... sweat.gif sweat.gif

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what Messi and Aguero doing up there?their leg become cold i guess
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what Messi and Aguero doing up there?their leg become cold i guess
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aguero didnt even play...... sweat.gif sweat.gif

messi did perform a little(just little only)...... sad.gif sad.gif
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u can see in youtube the goal...
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6-1... means bolivia is better than liverpool?pool only thrash ppl in 4-0 4-1 5-0
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suprise me ,when i listen the scoreline on the radio this morning on my way to work.

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suprise me ,when i listen the scoreline on the radio this morning on my way to work.

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wallao weii.. cant believe my eyes lah! 6-1 ah? how come they kena lauk lah. maybe because of too little too short of strikers? hahaaaaa
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Malaysia NT should learn from them lah... move the National Stadium to Genting Highland or Cameron Highland. All the player must live there. laugh.gif We can beat Argentina at least 3-0 i think. tongue.gif
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The infamous La Paz has claimed another prize scalp. I've no doubt that it makes a difference playing there given the altitude. I mean when the air is thin, it's harder to breath but come one, you are talking about arguably the best team in the world here. There's no excuse for this defeat. Here is a team that's not played in the World Cup since what? 1990?
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The infamous La Paz has claimed another prize scalp. I've no doubt that it makes a difference playing there given the altitude. I mean when the air is thin, it's harder to breath but come one, you are talking about arguably the best team in the world here. There's no excuse for this defeat. Here is a team that's not played in the World Cup since what? 1990?
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1994 me think. Well, Brazil unbeaten record in WC qualifying was ended here also back in 1993, IIRC.
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If the World Cup were held there it would last for about a year given the number of stadiums they have.
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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Apr 3 2009, 10:07 AM)
The infamous La Paz has claimed another prize scalp. I've no doubt that it makes a difference playing there given the altitude. I mean when the air is thin, it's harder to breath but come one, you are talking about arguably the best team in the world here. There's no excuse for this defeat. Here is a team that's not played in the World Cup since what? 1990?
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Wait a minute, i just don't understand.
These Bolivia players are breathing in Oxygen right?
How come they can coup so well with the thin air?
Some supernatural powerful lungs or heart?
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Wait a minute, i just don't understand.
These Bolivia players are breathing in Oxygen right?
How come they can coup so well with the thin air?
Some supernatural powerful lungs or heart?
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this not about supernatural power,it about normal life become paranormal,Bolivian player born and grow up with the thin air so they have no problem breath in high land, the same thing to us,we grow up here in Malaysia, hot sun is nothing to us,i think we can hold Finland or maybe win with small goal margin if we play at 4pm in KL but if we play Finland at Helsinki surely we will lost with huge big margin because our player cant hold icing temperature -5Celcius - 10Celcius there
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QUOTE(faris21 @ Apr 3 2009, 12:09 PM)
this not about supernatural power,it about normal life become paranormal,Bolivian player born and grow up with the thin air so they have no problem breath in high land, the same thing to us,we grow up here in Malaysia, hot sun is nothing to us,i think we can hold Finland or maybe win with small goal margin if we play at 4pm in KL but if we play Finland at Helsinki surely we will lost with huge big margin because our player cant hold icing temperature  -5Celcius - 10Celcius there
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yea agree....its about the environment.....just like when the world cup was held in south korea n japan last time out.....many european side keep on complaining about the hot weather n didnt perform well.......but still to lose until 6-1 is unacceptable for argentina national team due to the environment......hope next game we will do better....... flex.gif flex.gif
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QUOTE(-Nos- @ Apr 3 2009, 11:50 AM)
Wait a minute, i just don't understand.
These Bolivia players are breathing in Oxygen right?
How come they can coup so well with the thin air?
Some supernatural powerful lungs or heart?
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Hmm I don't think there's anything supernatural about it. Thought it was common sense that we adapt to our environment and based on conditioning and training, are able to do certain things better or longer. Why can a diver hold his breath longer than you or I? Were they all born with bigger lung capacity? How come is it Africans have more stamina when it comes to marathons/long distance running? Once again, I think the explanation is pretty simple.

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QUOTE(faris21 @ Apr 3 2009, 12:09 PM)
this not about supernatural power,it about normal life become paranormal,Bolivian player born and grow up with the thin air so they have no problem breath in high land, the same thing to us,we grow up here in Malaysia, hot sun is nothing to us,i think we can hold Finland or maybe win with small goal margin if we play at 4pm in KL but if we play Finland at Helsinki surely we will lost with huge big margin because our player cant hold icing temperature  -5Celcius - 10Celcius there
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i AGREE99% of the above except, we (Malaysian national team) wont be able to hold Finland even at 1.00PM.
Finland might not be in the top 10 of European team, but in Litmanen they got one of the best player in the world.
(Not sure he is still able to play)
Jasskelainen a very good GK. Hyppia & Tihanen not a slouch defender. & Forsell still a decent striker.


Unless they fielded their under 12 girls squad.

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Where are Argentina fans? biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

Argentina won their latest WCQ match against Colombia 1-0, thanks to Daniel Diaz's goal. About the match, erm, I'm just wondering, do football managers nowadays really consider fouling opponents as one of the tactics to break the rhythm of their opponents? I'm fine with playing aggressively, but after watching Colombian players played like a group of thugs, I was wondering, did their manager ask them to do so? When they failed to challenge or tackle the Argentinians, they just pushed their opponents to the touchline. Very cynical. The match was really a pain in the eyes, compared to the Uruguay - Brazil match. Even Tevez struggled, let alone the pint-sized Messi, or Veron.
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Getting one of the key players injured will be a big advantage to them especially when they are one goal down, no?
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Erm, do you mean the Colombians tried to injure the Argentinians? Maybe yes, based on how they played.

Why did they do that for the whole 90 minutes? Were all the fouls committed stated in their initial game plans? Football managers nowadays will do everything just to win? AFAIK, referees blow their whistles to control a match, not to accommodate dirty tactics which are employed just to destroy other teams.

I'm amazed, in the end of the match, there was a Colombian player tried to attack the ref. Really, they are a group of thugs.

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i watched argen vs colom match...the colombians were so damn ganazzzzzz...
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OMG shakehead.gif shakehead.gif What happen to Albiceleste nowadays. Shocking performance. By far Ecuador is the better team. No wonder they get the lead now. 10 minutes left for now though.
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FINAL WHISTLE: ARGIES LOSE 2-0 TO ECUADOR......

looks like maradona still dun hav the quality yet to be a manager....... sweat.gif sweat.gif

or maybe i am judging him too early perhaps?? hmm.gif


Added on September 1, 2009, 2:00 pmOur next game will be a cracker!!!!

Argentina vs Brazil - Rosario, Argentina - September 5, 2009 - WCQ2010.


Hope for a win for the argies!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 thumbup.gif thumbup.gif

Argentina just lose 1-3 to Brazil.... sweat.gif sweat.gif

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finally found this thread. hey where everybody.?

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Argentina 1 - Spain 2

1'st half was painful to watch, Argentina was playing mediocre, Maradona says 2nd half was better but I didn't watch coz I left the mamak shop :-)

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Argentina was clueless in their attacking........Spain was far more superior in tat match.....its time to wake up....Argies...

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argentine midfield seems not function well and what they do, they blame messi, they expect messi to lift the team, little that they know there's a limit for what 1 person can do..
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argentine midfield seems not function well and what they do, they blame messi, they expect messi to lift the team, little that they know there's a limit for what 1 person can do..
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Messi is the closest player with Maradona in decades. Some would disagree, saying Messi still got a long way to go before he can be compared to Maradona. But all those morons among the Argentinian press and football fans really think so. When they think like that, they expect the new Maradona to carry the whole team, like Maradona did 20 years ago.

They just don't realize that Messi didn't came from Argentinian footballing background, although he did learn the stepovers at hometown. He originated from Barca's idea, in which no such thing as 'carrying the team alone'. La Masia teach their youth something else, not like those old fashion style. Besides, its not like Messi never perform for his national team. A quick search of Messi's Argentina compilation, will lead us to his beautiful goal against Mexico, among other quality goals he scored.

They just forget what Messi did for them. sad.gif
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Messi is the closest player with Maradona in decades. Some would disagree, saying Messi still got a long way to go before he can be compared to Maradona. But all those morons among the Argentinian press and football fans really think so. When they think like that, they expect the new Maradona to carry the whole team, like Maradona did 20 years ago.

They just don't realize that Messi didn't came from Argentinian footballing background, although he did learn the stepovers at hometown. He originated from Barca's idea, in which no such thing as 'carrying the team alone'. La Masia teach their youth something else, not like those old fashion style. Besides, its not like Messi never perform for his national team. A quick search of Messi's Argentina compilation, will lead us to his beautiful goal against Mexico, among other quality goals he scored.

They just forget what Messi did for them. sad.gif
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the problem with current football journalist now is that they like to the comparison, the next maradona, the next zidane, the next messi, i dont see anything good coming out of this if they failed to live up to the expectation, seems everyone will scolded them, one thing that we dindt aware is that they didnt asked to be compare at the first place..

messi being compared with maradona(its a very heavy comparison), we all know what maradona achieved, so now everyone expect messi to do what maradona did, guide argentina n win the world cup, that is totally ridiculous..we need to understand now that messi is only himself n he has no maradona genes inside him, just let that young guy create his own history,name, n fame and stop the comparison n the world will see the best out of him yet..

its also happen in la masia right now, where any golden talent get compared, its really a pity ..they all expected to b the next messi or the next ronaldinho to come out at age 17 or 18 and do the magic, little that we all know that messi or ranaldinho talents can only been seen every once in generation..just look what had happen to giovanni, being compared to ronaldinho and failed now he end up nothing , really feel sorry for him although he quite injury prone these days..
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WE just beat Germany 1-0 at their home turf.....well done argies

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Seriously I dun understand maradona in choosing his player......WTF with gutierez and coloccini still can get in the squad when they are playing for a team in division 1??

While cambiasso and zanetti didnt get selected for the squad??Lucho gonzalez who is arguably a class playmaker in Marseille tat guide them to Ligue 1 title and also Lisandro who named the best player in France ligue this season also didnt make the squad??

WTF he rely on 2 old man in Veron and Palermo??

Is not tat I didnt trust maradona but with his this kind of selection, I really doubt he can bring glory to Argentina in this y ear world cup...... rclxub.gif rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(GrandElf @ May 12 2010, 07:09 PM)
Seriously I dun understand maradona in choosing his player......WTF with gutierez and coloccini still can get in the squad when they are playing for a team in division 1??

While cambiasso and zanetti didnt get selected for the squad??Lucho gonzalez who is arguably a class playmaker in Marseille tat guide them to Ligue 1 title and also Lisandro who named the best player in France ligue this season also didnt make the squad??

WTF he rely on 2 old man in Veron and Palermo??

Is not tat I didnt trust maradona but with his this kind of selection, I really doubt he can bring glory to Argentina in this y ear world cup...... rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif
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maradona are drunker thats why he doesnt pick cambiaso and zanetti maybe milito as well..fuuuhhhh!!!
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glad 2 see 2 nufc players there.....
frankly speaking...Jonas is the part of maradona plan....

about colo..i have no idea.....maybe his exp in olympic games b4 needed.
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QUOTE(GrandElf @ May 12 2010, 06:09 PM)
Seriously I dun understand maradona in choosing his player......WTF with gutierez and coloccini still can get in the squad when they are playing for a team in division 1??

While cambiasso and zanetti didnt get selected for the squad??Lucho gonzalez who is arguably a class playmaker in Marseille tat guide them to Ligue 1 title and also Lisandro who named the best player in France ligue this season also didnt make the squad??

WTF he rely on 2 old man in Veron and Palermo??

Is not tat I didnt trust maradona but with his this kind of selection, I really doubt he can bring glory to Argentina in this y ear world cup...... rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(arcaloveher @ May 12 2010, 07:08 PM)
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Sry man...I dun see any class in jonas gutierez..he is just an ordinary argentina player imo....coloccini yes but he already pass it.....

The only reason I can think of jonas gutierez been include in the squad is because Argentina lack of left winger....

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QUOTE(GrandElf @ May 13 2010, 11:28 AM)
Sry man...I dun see any class in jonas gutierez..he is just an ordinary argentina player imo....coloccini yes but he already pass it.....

The only reason I can think of jonas gutierez been include in the squad is because Argentina lack of left winger....

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ya i respect ur opinion....

actually maradona told to Jonas earlier.....playing at lowest division wont effect him a chance to international squad.....
the reason maradona choose him because....he can play left/right flank and capable to be defensively at the same time.....

remember how we beat germany 1-0...He is considered a key part of the national side by coach Diego Maradona who stated that his team is now just Mascherano, Messi, Jonas and eight more.

and during that match...he became man of the match.....
i dont speak as a jonas or magpies fan...i speak from what that man can do in pitch......



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I know Jonas as a hardworking winger but I'm surprised that Cambiasso was not included in the squad.,,,

He helped Inter to the champ league final anyway.
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QUOTE(watdafuk_abn @ May 13 2010, 06:04 PM)
I know Jonas as a hardworking winger but I'm surprised that Cambiasso was not included in the squad.,,,

He helped Inter to the champ league final anyway.
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not included cambiasoo in the squad...its must kidding...
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IINM, people in Argentina regarded the team that won the WC86 with Maradona as the star player, was actually among the weakest Argentina NT in the 80's. So maybe Mardona is setting a similar stage for Messi biggrin.gif

But still, he shouldn't have done that. Not including Milito and Cambiasso is simply outrageous. doh.gif
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QUOTE(matyrze @ May 13 2010, 10:12 PM)
IINM, people in Argentina regarded the team that won the WC86 with Maradona as the star player, was actually among the weakest Argentina NT in the 80's. So maybe Mardona is setting a similar stage for Messi biggrin.gif

But still, he shouldn't have done that. Not including Milito and Cambiasso is simply outrageous. doh.gif
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diego milito was in the 30-men provisional squad.

cambiasso and zanetti were actually not in the squad.
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QUOTE(THE ZUL @ May 13 2010, 10:34 PM)
diego milito was in the 30-men provisional squad.

cambiasso and zanetti were actually not in the squad.
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Mexico...DONE! Germany next
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german will be the real test of argentina world cup credential. if they can over power germany i think they can go all the way.
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I think Maradona is too heavily dependent on Messi to circulate the ball around. Veron's erratic passing show doesn't help him much too. Messi appeared very jaded against Mexico, I'm not sure whether or not he will continue running 90 minutes in next match sad.gif
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QUOTE(matyrze @ Jun 28 2010, 05:05 PM)
I think Maradona is too heavily dependent on Messi to circulate the ball around. Veron's erratic passing show doesn't help him much too. Messi appeared very jaded against Mexico, I'm not sure whether or not he will continue running 90 minutes in next match sad.gif
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messi attract no 1 or 2 but sometimes 4..4 out of 10..something really special...
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messi attract no 1 or 2 but sometimes 4..4 out of 10..something really special...
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messi in an ordinary team is enough to cause problem to any opponent, but this argentina team have several other world class hitman sniffing on the chance created by messi's run, this make them so dangerous. the problem with the team is the defense, walter samuel need to be fit for the germany clash to marshal that defense to stop german brilliant counter attack.
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QUOTE(matyrze @ Jun 28 2010, 05:05 PM)
I think Maradona is too heavily dependent on Messi to circulate the ball around. Veron's erratic passing show doesn't help him much too. Messi appeared very jaded against Mexico, I'm not sure whether or not he will continue running 90 minutes in next match sad.gif
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yup.. notice how 3-4 defenders came towards messi, nailing him down.. a few times i really wished mexico get their red card for playing so rash.. mad.gif

german wont be soft towards argentine.. seeing how good their tactics are vs england u know they are gonna push themselves more when they vs argentina...

let's just hope they can survive it, if not it will be over soon next mth, 7th March will be D day... sleep.gif

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cant w8 for this Saturday night clash...hehehe

last World Cup quarter final...

but Argen got 6 well known scorer..that really scored goals...so..us..Germany must tighten the defense..

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QUOTE(robertngo @ Jun 28 2010, 10:33 PM)
messi in an ordinary team is enough to cause problem to any opponent, but this argentina team have several other world class hitman sniffing on the chance created by messi's run, this make them so dangerous. the problem with the team is the defense, walter samuel need to be fit for the germany clash to marshal that defense to stop german brilliant counter attack.
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The problems popped out when Messi didn't continue running. He still creates chance for his teammates, and for himself too, but I think such a small man have had too much football in recent seasons.

The other glaring problem is how Messi spent much more time away from opponents' penalty box, rather than threatening their goal. Again, Veron is at fault here.
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QUOTE(matyrze @ Jun 29 2010, 08:40 AM)
The problems popped out when Messi didn't continue running. He still creates chance for his teammates, and for himself too, but I think such a small man have had too much football in recent seasons.

The other glaring problem is how Messi spent much more time away from opponents' penalty box, rather than threatening their goal. Again, Veron is at fault here.
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QUOTE(matyrze @ Jun 29 2010, 08:40 AM)
The problems popped out when Messi didn't continue running. He still creates chance for his teammates, and for himself too, but I think such a small man have had too much football in recent seasons.

The other glaring problem is how Messi spent much more time away from opponents' penalty box, rather than threatening their goal. Again, Veron is at fault here.
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Veron isn't to blame here. He didn't start the last match and Messi was still spending more time in midfield than in the penalty box. It's a tactical decision by Maradona actually. What it does is that it allows Argentina to penetrate any teams central midfield with Messi's dribbling ability. Sure it means he scores less goals but Argentina are not lacking in the department so it isn't an issue.
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Veron isn't to blame here. He didn't start the last match and Messi was still spending more time in midfield than in the penalty box. It's a tactical decision by Maradona actually. What it does is that it allows Argentina to penetrate any teams central midfield with Messi's dribbling ability. Sure it means he scores less goals but Argentina are not lacking in the department so it isn't an issue.
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Messi, with his 'top' level fitness, could never get to dribble past his 3-4 markers. At this rate, I only hope that Maradona drop him altogether for next match, and give Aguero a chance instead. Messi need a rest.

But the problem is Veron has been below par with his passing. So it is understandable that Maradona is forced to depend on Messi to be another playmaker, asking him to drop deep more.

The last match when Veron was dropped from 1st eleven proved Maradona's dependency on Messi to be the playmaker. Not that he is not good enough, but he is not fit enough to do that job.

Yes, Argentina don't have problems to score goals. But can we say they've been convincing enough?
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QUOTE(matyrze @ Jun 29 2010, 05:46 PM)
Messi, with his 'top' level fitness, could never get to dribble past his 3-4 markers. At this rate, I only hope that Maradona drop him altogether for next match, and give Aguero a chance instead. Messi need a rest.

But the problem is Veron has been below par with his passing. So it is understandable that Maradona is forced to depend on Messi to be another playmaker, asking him to drop deep more.

The last match when Veron was dropped from 1st eleven proved Maradona's dependency on Messi to be the playmaker. Not that he is not good enough, but he is not fit enough to do that job.

Yes, Argentina don't have problems to score goals. But can we say they've been convincing enough?
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i think argentina have been convincing, they score and win against four team with very different style of play, only the defense are in doubt.
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i think argentina have been convincing, they score and win against four team with very different style of play, only the defense are in doubt.
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honestly, Germany has been more convincing.. yet we as Argentine's fans must give our fullest support!! they are not that far off from Germany!!

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QUOTE(matyrze @ Jun 29 2010, 05:46 PM)
Messi, with his 'top' level fitness, could never get to dribble past his 3-4 markers. At this rate, I only hope that Maradona drop him altogether for next match, and give Aguero a chance instead. Messi need a rest.

But the problem is Veron has been below par with his passing. So it is understandable that Maradona is forced to depend on Messi to be another playmaker, asking him to drop deep more.

The last match when Veron was dropped from 1st eleven proved Maradona's dependency on Messi to be the playmaker. Not that he is not good enough, but he is not fit enough to do that job.

Yes, Argentina don't have problems to score goals. But can we say they've been convincing enough?
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Messi isn't required to dribble pass 3-4 people everytime. Just his immediate 1 or 2 markers. The advantage is that if he gets through, the opposition has a serious problem to deal with with a flat backline being exposed.

Maradona actually plays Veron depending on the opposition. Veron didn't start against South Korea but started against both Greece and Nigeria. Veron isn't able to cover as much ground given his age so when more running is needed in midfield Maxi comes in with a change in shape. I think the idea is to use Veron when the opposition sit off and defend deep. Argentina is guaranteed possession in those games and Veron won't be under much pressure to pick out passes from deep.

I think Argentina have been convincing enough. They have no problems scoring goals, have defended reasonably well and the players all seem to be on the same wavelength. Just because Messi isn't scoring doesn't mean that Argentina are playing unconvincingly.
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if argentina desperately need a goal in the end of the match, i think maradona will send on saint martin palermo to score the winning goal

he is old and slow but have an amazing talent to score insane goal and late winner

here he score a header from 40 m away



scoring a goal in 94 minute from the half way line



a backward header in the last minute of play



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QUOTE(verx @ Jun 29 2010, 08:35 PM)
Messi isn't required to dribble pass 3-4 people everytime. Just his immediate 1 or 2 markers. The advantage is that if he gets through, the opposition has a serious problem to deal with with a flat backline being exposed.


The thing is, he didn't always have only 1-2 markers. Most of the time he was gang marked. So usually his impact is very limited. So I think it is wise if Messi being rested, and Aguero replaces him. That's a good alternative for me.

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Maradona actually plays Veron depending on the opposition. Veron didn't start against South Korea but started against both Greece and Nigeria. Veron isn't able to cover as much ground given his age so when more running is needed in midfield Maxi comes in with a change in shape. I think the idea is to use Veron when the opposition sit off and defend deep. Argentina is guaranteed possession in those games and Veron won't be under much pressure to pick out passes from deep.


You are right about Veron's roles, but unfortunately he didn't perform it well enough. He showed too many strayed passes for a deep playmaker. Maybe you are right about the reason why Veron was left out in several games, but had he perform better than he did, I think he would not be leftt out at all.

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I'm not saying 'no goal from Messi = Argentina played badly'. Instead, I said 'more dependency on Messi = Argentina played badly'. I put the blame on Veron because his poor performances forced Maradona to be dependent more on a tired Messi than he should.

And for me, only Brazil (perhaps Germany too) is the only team that truly convincing enough. All other teams have their own problems. 'More goals = convincing performance' logic is not always true.

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argentina seen to be well prepared for the match with germany, if things go like last time they will be ready for the penalty and also the after match fight as this video show. laugh.gif




also 10 things that will happen in the match

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LOL, the alternative for Veron is actually play Maxi as a CM. And I wonder whether Cambiasso was watching or not. Nice job there Maradona.

Messi, come back home and get some rest!
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the defense in disarray is not that shocking for this argentina team, but the attack today totally suck, they are glacially slow and allow so much time for germany to get back in defense. doh.gif
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QUOTE(robertngo @ Jul 4 2010, 12:13 AM)
the defense in disarray is not that shocking for this argentina team, but the attack today totally suck, they are glacially slow and allow so much time for germany to get back in defense.  doh.gif
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I think they build up their attacks well enough. Its just that the final ball or the finishing were really weak.

And yeah, the defense sucks big time. The reason? Easy. Maxi played as CM, leaving Masch the only 1 able to stop German counterattacks early. Moreover, their counterattacks are actually in numbers. How many time did we see Argentina's defence being outnumbered? Again, good job Maradona, job very well done doh.gif doh.gif
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So sad to see good players such as Messi was being humiliated in this match.
The best players are not just good enough without good MANAGER.
Maybe Maradonna should have a class with Mourinho.
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really sad to see messi not able to make this his world cup

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QUOTE(robertngo @ Jul 4 2010, 12:13 AM)
the defense in disarray is not that shocking for this argentina team, but the attack today totally suck, they are glacially slow and allow so much time for germany to get back in defense.  doh.gif
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please wake up from your delusion.
this maradona is never good enough to manage the national side.
heinze should pack his bag and leave with maradona.
because of his amateur squad selection and school boys tactic, the whole team was humiliated.
the most painful scenario is, these football noobs insulting messi for maradona's failure.

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they never had a real right back in their squad.. doh.gif zanetti could've at least saved them the embarrasment of germany's trashing... all 2nd half goals came from the right.. like the earlier posts about veron and maxi playing to cover deep roles.. cambiaso does that pretty damn well imo.. not to mention gaby milito would be a better choice than demichelis??
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QUOTE(-Nos- @ Jul 5 2010, 09:57 PM)
please wake up from your delusion.
this maradona is never good enough to manage the national side.
heinze should pack his bag and leave with maradona.
because of his amateur squad selection and school boys tactic, the whole team was humiliated.
the most painful scenario is, these football noobs insulting messi for maradona's failure.
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yeah... I'm going to international friendly Brazil vs Argentina 17 Nov 2010, confirmed yesterday by CBF. Can't wait to see Messi & Kun playing.

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We beat Spain 4-1 in the friendly...GG

1st and 2nd goal absolutely class show by messi and higuain.....messi just calmly chipped the ball over reina while higuain, despite dragging the ball into a tight angle and still he manage to scored (mind you that pique already make a sliding tackle in order to prevent the ball from going in)

I really do think sergio batista can do well in the current argentina squad since almost all the player is from his olympic winning team.....he know how to works with them well.....

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I expect much from Ever Banega for the future. He has the potential to be a very good playmaker for the team.
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Got my ticket already via ONLINE today, front tier almost sold out...

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Added on November 15, 2010, 3:29 pmArgentina will hold their first training session between 19.30 – 20.30 today at Qatar Sports Club and follow the same routine for their second training session tomorrow.

who want to join me today? hopefully we see them training and fan session.


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Surprise bump for my thread.....Too busy to maintain this thread anymore.....

5-3-2 formation is not working well.....aguero isolated....while messi need to drop too deep to collect the ball.....no creativity from midfield...

Things look better when Higuain & gago come in......messi with much freedom....

I hope to see Ricky Alvarez actually because he can provide creativity from midfield......
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It's gotta be him, isn't it??

Messi just save Argentina blushes against Iran with a spectacular left foot shot.......

Aguero & Higuain is not effective at all in that match....hope they can fast regain their form & confidence because we can't keep on rely on messi alone....
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Greetings all Argies fans,

It's Copa America time....so let's revive our beloved Argies thread..

Basically we're 1 foot in the quarterfinal after winning against Uruguay but still our performance is not very effective.....

Any1 can spot where our problem lies with??

For me definitely is the midfield area where we lack of strong creative and run with the ball type of midfield.....

just wondering if Tata will give Lamela a chance to try play in central midfield.....
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defenses all targeting messi
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babai WC 2018.
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post Jun 27 2018, 06:38 PM

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Still alive...Next up is France...
Can someone tell Sampaoli stop using the useless higuain... When he miss his chance yesterday I thought yes we're GG and culprit is higuain again...

And for god sake where is dybala???
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post Jul 1 2018, 11:12 AM

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sampah argie defense. shuda die in group stage together with german.
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post Jul 1 2018, 11:39 AM

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Better go home.

World’s best player konon. Walking around the pitch not even running or chasing the ball at all.

Argies tactic is basically waiting for ppl to feed messi the ball and expect magic to happen...

Used to think Messi is the better than CR7 but this whole WC changed my opinion towards him.

As for the coach, less said is better


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post Jul 15 2018, 02:11 AM

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Argentina should hire Marcelo Bielsa as a manager.

His tactics and strategy had a very good impact on the team's performance. He also managed to achieve good results as a club manager.
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post Jul 16 2018, 08:52 AM

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QUOTE(ismokenov1991 @ Jul 15 2018, 02:11 AM)
Argentina should hire Marcelo Bielsa as a manager.

His tactics and strategy had a very good impact on the team's performance. He also managed to achieve good results as a club manager.
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Haha second stint as the boss

He is part of argentina collapse in 2002 right

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post Jul 16 2018, 12:56 PM

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QUOTE(skylinelover @ Jul 16 2018, 08:52 AM)
Haha second stint as the boss

He is part of argentina collapse in 2002 right

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Yes... He was doing very good during qualifier... But failed miserably during WORLDCUP... Can't even pass the group stage because was drawn in a group of death.... I rather have someone else.... Simeone will be good though....
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post Jul 16 2018, 10:37 PM

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Giroud > Messi

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