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Discussion Debt Laden Clubs To Be Banned From The UCL, About time i'd say.

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cracksys
post Oct 12 2008, 04:01 PM

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QUOTE(solstice818 @ Oct 12 2008, 09:41 AM)
is it even possible that chelsea worth less than liverpool? i doubt...
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why not? there are a lot of factor determining one value. TV right, player estimation, stadium and lotsa other stuff. but if Kop's debt were to be paid in next year, i doubt they will stay on the list much longer.

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post Oct 12 2008, 07:18 PM

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QUOTE(cracksys @ Oct 12 2008, 04:01 PM)
why not? there are a lot of factor determining one value. TV right, player estimation, stadium and lotsa other stuff. but if Kop's debt were to be paid in next year, i doubt they will stay on the list much longer.

Lelong-lelong .. Torres $10.5mil, Martin Škrtel $120,000
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Do you have to be like this? Chelsea wouldn't even compete if it wasn't for Abramowich in the first place. You're agreeing to this idea because that would mean less challenge for Chelsea to ever win a UCL title. Haha. Funny isn't it?

Nevertheless, having salaries cap is a good idea. In that sense, transfers activities still can be monitored. Well, it is much going to be same with these oil tycoons around, won't they?
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post Oct 12 2008, 07:46 PM

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QUOTE(cracksys @ Oct 12 2008, 04:01 PM)
why not? there are a lot of factor determining one value. TV right, player estimation, stadium and lotsa other stuff. but if Kop's debt were to be paid in next year, i doubt they will stay on the list much longer.

Lelong-lelong .. Torres $10.5mil, Martin Škrtel $120,000
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Just to clarify things mate, we aren't known as "Kop". Wrong application of the word. Just thought I'd point it out smile.gif

"The Kop" is a stand that houses the most hardcore Liverpool fans at Anfield. Liverpool fans are knows as "Kopites". Sentences like, "Kops have won" is wrong. It's "The Reds" or "Liverpool have won". Liverpool are not known as "Kop". Cheers cheers.gif
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post Oct 12 2008, 10:33 PM

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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Oct 12 2008, 07:46 PM)
Just to clarify things mate, we aren't known as "Kop". Wrong application of the word. Just thought I'd point it out smile.gif

"The Kop" is a stand that houses the most hardcore Liverpool fans at Anfield. Liverpool fans are knows as "Kopites". Sentences like, "Kops have won" is wrong. It's "The Reds" or "Liverpool have won". Liverpool are not known as "Kop". Cheers cheers.gif
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tongue.gif i see now .. forgive my lack of knowledge. maybe i should start a new game of FM with the reds after this.

QUOTE(boxsystem @ Oct 12 2008, 07:18 PM)
Do you have to be like this? Chelsea wouldn't even compete if it wasn't for Abramowich in the first place. You're agreeing to this idea because that would mean less challenge for Chelsea to ever win a UCL title. Haha. Funny isn't it?

Nevertheless, having salaries cap is a good idea. In that sense, transfers activities still can be monitored. Well, it is much going to be same with these oil tycoons around, won't they?
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nope, i'm just telling solstice818 that valuation of club includes many other factor. i'm enjoying chelsea match even when they're competing for 4th place, not just recently. so, winning easy or not, that's not the problem.

and i don't really catch what you're trying to say by "transfers activities still can be monitored" when "having salaries cap". does transfer market nowadays cannot be monitor?

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post Oct 12 2008, 11:46 PM

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wanna make teams even?
imagine captains from both teams flipping a coin.
winning captain picks someone from the combined pool of 22 players, and keep alternating.

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QUOTE(Everdying @ Oct 12 2008, 11:46 PM)
wanna make teams even?
imagine captains from both teams flipping a coin.
winning captain picks someone from the combined pool of 22 players, and keep alternating.

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Problem is there won't be a need for managers anymore. Also it will still benefit the big sides who can afford to have bigger squads.
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post Oct 13 2008, 10:23 AM

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QUOTE(Everdying @ Oct 12 2008, 11:46 PM)
wanna make teams even?
imagine captains from both teams flipping a coin.
winning captain picks someone from the combined pool of 22 players, and keep alternating.

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heh, we do this during PJ games back in school no?
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QUOTE(madmoz @ Oct 13 2008, 10:23 AM)
heh, we do this during PJ games back in school no?
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of cos tongue.gif
imagine if most teams were almost even...
then we wouldnt really have entertainment in the form of 5-0 drubbings etc.


plus for F1...
it was introduced to bring the human skill factor back in, rather than over-reliance on the machine to win races.

for football...of cos the human factor is there...but its also how they handle themselves mentally...
mid table team? no motivation? thats wat seperates the small boys from the big ones...
desire to go out and kick ass, no matter who the other team are.

bringing it back full circle, that is obviously wats lacking with malaysian football.
lack of desire.
for a country that was once ranked as high as 75 in the world back in 1993, and dropping all the way to 170 in the world now? begs the question...wtf?


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post Oct 16 2008, 09:04 AM

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Read the Sun yesterday. The big 4 in trouble. What could be the outcome..

Lets sit and watch..
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post Oct 16 2008, 08:41 PM

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QUOTE(enemyofgod @ Oct 16 2008, 09:04 AM)
Read the Sun yesterday. The big 4 in trouble. What could be the outcome..

Lets sit and watch..
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you mean the other big three?

cause, you should count chelsea out as 80% of their debt came from RA without any interest. with last financial year showing turnover of nearly 200mil, it's only a matter of time before they cleared that out.

of course, they're in trouble if suddenly RA call for a meeting next year and ask chelsea to submit his $600mil within a week.

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