may i ?
just wan to try

Why? Besides, if you gave DX 10, you can already play DX 9 games.

And if you uninstall it what are you going to use?

He probably is making a lite version of Vista and will not play games?

The DirectX 10 is un-uninstallable..Its already in the Windows Core.If you uninstall it,you might get Windows Corrupted..If there's a way..i dont know loh.

Use vLite to remove? Haven't tried it though.

AFAIK, current vLite doesn't have the option to remove DirectX, and if I'm not mistaken most of GUI in Vista is handled by DX... correct me if I'm wrong...

Simple, all any DirectX version (1 and higher) is un-removable.

You're wrong. There's a DirectX Happy Uninstall utility that can remove DX8/DX9, not sure about earlier version...

Hhm..can uninstall kar this Direct x??..

Why would you want to uninstall DX10? DX10 is already backward compatible with DX9 and DX8.

You guys are wrong. DX10 is not neccessary backward compatible. Some games do need DX9.

1) You CANNOT uninstall DX10.

2) However, you can install DX9 on top of it. There's no conflict coz the DLL names is different..etc DX93D...

Just install the latest DX9 runtime into ur Vista and both DX9 and DX10 games can work fine.

Yes, but the OS STILL uses DX10 to connect to the DX9. Thus you need it to make DX9 works :3

After reading both, i become like this. Why Microsoft create a new DirectX when it is not backward compatible?

Doesn't bother me...there's no difference to the user. Anyway, not much difference between DX9 and DX10. I'll rather not waste my time.

Speaking of DX generation...i think there's very minimal improvement in the last 2 gen...

DX7- Intro T&L , huge difference as load is move from CPU to GPU.
DX8 - Intro Pixel shader. Big difference with bump mapping compared to previous flat texture.
DX9 - Better pixel shader...looks a bit nicer...no big deal...
DX10 - better pixel again?? Needs magnifying glass to tell the difference...

Of course, bandwidth improves a lot from generation to generation, but feature wise, the last 2 gen has been rather boring.


This post has been edited by Matrix: Oct 8 2008, 10:53 AM

did you forgot the Shader Model? That's quite big improvement over Shader Model from DX9...

Shader Model is the pixel shader ler. Maybe now its unified pixel shader or whatever, but there isn't a DX10 game that looks significant;y different from DX9. If u look at a DX 7 and DX8, u can immediately tell difference. Between DX8 and DX9, the difference is still noticeable....but DX10...if nobody tells you what DX the game is running, u'll never know.

maybe not noticeable if your hardware isn't good enough. If you seen Crysis or Stalker screenies before, there's differences between DX9 and DX10 rendered game... but most of us just ignore that.

Yes, there is differrence, but the fact is, the difference are too subtle and minor which doesn't justify a generation leap. More like DX9.2. Also, not forgettting all the rumours that some of those comparison are purposely dumb down DX9 to make DX10 looks better...(very desperate attempts).

I'm using ATI 4850 btw. I think it's powerful enuff for most purpose.

This post has been edited by Matrix: Oct 8 2008, 02:10 PM

Truthful answer and that's all you need :

1. No need to uninstall DirectX 10
2. You can play DirectX 9 in Vista even though it has DirectX 10 in it
3. You can install DirectX Redist August 2008 from Microsoft (just google) which is the latest DirectX 9 in Vista

Well shader has a "little" improvement, but the real improvement is from the load that goes to the processor. Remember crysis? Even with all the graphic hax, tehre is still one thing that the DX9 version can't do. and that is running crysis in server mode with all physics on. It will just crash the PC because the processor cannot handle all the data sent by the client. Heck, it can't even run Night/day cycle.
In DX10 however it run just fine. Not much difference huh?

It's a big difference. I think this thread should be closed in order to prevent flaming (not saying it has happened).

Actually, i don't care about Crysis or any FPS for that matter. AFAIK, image quality has miniscule improvement in 99% of the games so far compare to their DX9 counterparts. Hardly anything that jumps out and scream 'Next Gen Graphics!!!' on it.

The directX 10 in implemented within vista itself rdy, no nid to uninstall to upgrade it. U juz install the latest directX-August which will include latest update in D-X10. So, no worry in playing ur favourite games, bro. Affirmative..hehe! ^^

Like I said, the advantage is not really about the graphic. It's about developers can now create more complex physic without fearing the game will make the PC slow down to a crawl.

wait dx11 next year..... but dunno wat is da different.... i read somewhere that say ati dx11 card will be released next year...huhuhuhuhu

with no currect OS supporting DX11, don't you think it's just PR hype by ATi?

I read somewhere that Microsoft will also deploying DX11 to Vista (and of course no XP), but where did I read that... hmmmm...

Hate Vista one thing is that my cs won't work anymore after I installed directx 10;
other than that; vista is definitely roxxor and i stand my point because i have no problem using vista so far; not even a single crash on drivers like when I was using XP or any errors that randomly appear on XP..

No flames on XP lovers, just my personal view on vista; and I haven't get any slowdown on Vista so far; even it's been a while I am using it. If I am using XP now, it will automatically run slower

which CS version you have? I have 1.6 without problem here, even Age of Empires I is running fine without the need of compatibility setting...

I am playing cs 1.6.. I know that some people has no problem but I do have and there are tons of users out there with the same problem with mine..

That is after load cs 1.6, DOD or HL1, it will hang when we try to create game or connect to any server. So far I found no solution yet; and this happens to most of Vista users..

Only hl.exe got problem for me; other than that Vista is totally kick ass OS.. I love it

Have you tried compatibility mode? I had CS1.6 installed before and it gave me no trouble.

When I used to play games last time, I never had any problems with CS:S neither did I have any problems in CS 1.6, be it me joining or hosting a server. Please make sure that you update your graphics card driver.

Yea I did updated my graphic drivers and it is the latest; well I don't know why but it works last time until I install direct x 10 and SP1. Then it hangs

Actually Vista missing bunch of essentail DirectX 9 DLLs.
Many games/apps that use DirectX 9 might require external DLL.

1. eg D3DX9_34.DLL, Call of Duty 4 require this DLL to run the game, but the fact is vista does not have it. Game maker might includes the DirectX 9 end user runtimes together with the game but most of them might be outdated.
2. Media player classic, the Custom pixel shaders, require one of the Direct X 9 end user Runtime DLL too, without it the video still plays, but the Custom pixel shader option will not work, without any error message prompted.
If you guys have any problem with the DLL missings or some other problems, try get the bi-monthly updates DirectX Enduser runtimes here:
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details...&displaylang=en
I think its work with vista too, though i never tired it.

maybe I might be missing all the Directx 9 DLL =.="
I have to try it

Reinstalled the game yet?

tried everything from reinstalling the whole steam; the game, windows graphic drivers and also directx 9 files; but nothing works so far

Please open a thread in "Technical Support" and close this one or ask a mod to move it. I don't really know whats the problem, may I know your graphics card?

i wan play my online game on vista ultimate
but i say tat only birect x9.0c can play lol

lol? And why am I still able to be running starcraft, a game that does not uses any Direct X without any problem in Vista?