Bad things happen to unlicensed Windows users, Study by Microsoft
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 Oct 6 2008, 01:22 AM, updated 18y ago
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Microsoft claims that companies that rely on unlicensed copies of Windows are more likely to experience system failures and lose customer data:
From the article: "..43% more likely to have had a critical system failure lasting more then 24 hours, 28% more likely to lose customer data and 73% more likely to lose their own data." http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/arti...dows_users.html |
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Oct 6 2008, 01:25 AM
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SO this is the way microsoft threathen us to use their ori software?
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Oct 6 2008, 01:26 AM
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Haha yeah I guess so. The study was commissioned by them, so take the findings with a grain of salt..
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Oct 6 2008, 01:40 AM
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to those company,just move on to open source software.there's plenty of free software.
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Oct 6 2008, 02:12 AM
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QUOTE(Shah_15 @ Oct 6 2008, 02:25 AM) SO this is the way microsoft threathen us to use their ori software? I don't think so... Using ORI is the safest way to avoid more losses, not just being get virusus, but your business profitable from it...  |
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Oct 6 2008, 02:15 AM
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QUOTE(zer0hour @ Oct 6 2008, 01:22 AM) Microsoft claims that companies that rely on unlicensed copies of Windows are more likely to experience system failures and lose customer data: It does makes sense, coz Ori users gets to call and use their technical support when problem happens...From the article: "..43% more likely to have had a critical system failure lasting more then 24 hours, 28% more likely to lose customer data and 73% more likely to lose their own data." http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/arti...dows_users.html |
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Oct 6 2008, 02:22 AM
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they claim to cover their a**. Got such thing just because of a cd key your computer crashes.
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Oct 6 2008, 02:23 AM
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QUOTE(WaCKy-Angel @ Oct 6 2008, 02:15 AM) It does makes sense, coz Ori users gets to call and use their technical support when problem happens... Yup, and they get program updates too. Aspire - sure lor, that's prolly one reason they comissioned the study =pThis post has been edited by zer0hour: Oct 6 2008, 02:24 AM |
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Oct 6 2008, 02:46 AM
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wooo... lucky i get my xp and vista for free XD
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Oct 6 2008, 03:28 AM
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I hv my xp oem but crashed for som program frequently oso..does oem diff frm buy one?
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Oct 6 2008, 03:49 AM
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just a trick !
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Oct 6 2008, 06:17 AM
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QUOTE(jihchuan @ Oct 6 2008, 03:28 AM) I hv my xp oem but crashed for som program frequently oso..does oem diff frm buy one? I dont think got different, it's still the same, just different customer support only, any problem you must refer to the oem manufacturer if im not mistaken |
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Oct 6 2008, 08:03 AM
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man talking bad about their own products... the facts applied to their windows WITHOUT the update
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Oct 6 2008, 06:23 PM
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solution , get windows with a super l337 crack to update
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Oct 6 2008, 10:09 PM
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hey bros...if company one better not use ahem windows...ori not so expensive...can also deduct from expenses-- no ??
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Oct 6 2008, 11:31 PM
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Well it's not advisable to use non-original Windows for companies. Microsoft tolerates personal pirated use, but a company doing it is asking to get sued..
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Oct 7 2008, 07:17 AM
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Yes, don't use pirate stuff in businesses.
We do not know if the research indicates that companies that do not use Windows at all, experience even lower rates of system failures and data loss. |
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Oct 7 2008, 09:22 AM
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QUOTE(zer0hour @ Oct 6 2008, 01:22 AM) Microsoft claims that companies that rely on unlicensed copies of Windows are more likely to experience system failures and lose customer data: I have to admit, I've used pirated Windows XP but have never encountered any problems listed. Currently dual-booting XP Professional SP3 and Vista Home Premium SP1 (OEM). Worth the money rather than having the crack/hack WGA. I know there are things to do it for you (don't have to tell me, no software if perfect).From the article: "..43% more likely to have had a critical system failure lasting more then 24 hours, 28% more likely to lose customer data and 73% more likely to lose their own data." http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/arti...dows_users.html |
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Oct 7 2008, 12:01 PM
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Toyota and Honda claims that using China-knockoff replacement parts for their cars will reduce its life and increase the chance if you getting into an accident.
Take a look at the nearest car scrapyard and have a look closely at the twisted metal. My point is, even if it increases the chance of you getting viruses, going bankrupt, contracting STD, having a marriage breakdown, people will still try to circumvent the whole thing and stick to a pirated copy. |
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Oct 7 2008, 05:53 PM
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QUOTE(TechnoDude94 @ Oct 7 2008, 09:22 AM) I have to admit, I've used pirated Windows XP but have never encountered any problems listed. Currently dual-booting XP Professional SP3 and Vista Home Premium SP1 (OEM). Worth the money rather than having the crack/hack WGA. I know there are things to do it for you (don't have to tell me, no software if perfect). me too in the past. I've been using pirated Windows XP since the first gold release back in 2001. No virus whatsoever, I repeat, NO VIRUS WHATSOEVER, it just gimmick. And believe or not, I even called Microsoft support to ask about my pirated Windows problem, and they just help me, no question asked.  But using original is worth the time and money since you didn't need to apply some 1337 crack everytime WGA updates, also the packaging and media is so nice, so, get original  |
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Oct 7 2008, 05:59 PM
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wait..im using Windows server datacenter..erm..pirated...well...windows update able to work..no need scare WGA..just because the SN is legal and working
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Oct 7 2008, 06:04 PM
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unless their WGA crash the system on purpose if not, its juz a treat to scare ppl.
For companies don't use pirated software bah. They are making $$ from selling their software, you making $$ frm using their software. Paying them is definitely worth while. You wouldn't want to see ppl sell imitation products of yours also. ps: my windows is VLK |
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Oct 7 2008, 06:10 PM
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QUOTE(tcchuin @ Oct 7 2008, 05:59 PM) wait..im using Windows server datacenter..erm..pirated...well...windows update able to work..no need scare WGA..just because the SN is legal and working lol, that doesn't count as pirated. as long the product key used is legal, there's nothing wrong using pirated media, unless you're skeptical of what the media contain... |
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Oct 7 2008, 06:18 PM
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QUOTE(FarCry3r @ Oct 7 2008, 05:53 PM) me too in the past. I've been using pirated Windows XP since the first gold release back in 2001. No virus whatsoever, I repeat, NO VIRUS WHATSOEVER, it just gimmick. And believe or not, I even called Microsoft support to ask about my pirated Windows problem, and they just help me, no question asked. on the contrary , i know of one that makes your copy completely look original from the time you implement it onwards But using original is worth the time and money since you didn't need to apply some 1337 crack everytime WGA updates, also the packaging and media is so nice, so, get original ps : zorex posted a clue  |
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Oct 7 2008, 06:28 PM
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QUOTE(zx7177 @ Oct 7 2008, 06:18 PM) on the contrary , i know of one that makes your copy completely look original from the time you implement it onwards lol, if you can find any, that is... if not, stick to 1337 crack or just get original ps : zorex posted a clue  btw, I do have access to VL keys, but it's for WinXP, since I don't use WinXP anymore, it's no use lor...  |
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Oct 7 2008, 06:57 PM
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Hhm..dun think so..coz this prblm is sometime happen too at my workplace although using ori OS..
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Oct 8 2008, 11:58 AM
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QUOTE(safone @ Oct 7 2008, 06:57 PM) Hhm..dun think so..coz this prblm is sometime happen too at my workplace although using ori OS.. original or pirated, will still crash wan ler.so pls dont believe all their crap. |
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Oct 8 2008, 12:42 PM
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QUOTE(FarCry3r @ Oct 7 2008, 05:53 PM) me too in the past. I've been using pirated Windows XP since the first gold release back in 2001. No virus whatsoever, I repeat, NO VIRUS WHATSOEVER, it just gimmick. And believe or not, I even called Microsoft support to ask about my pirated Windows problem, and they just help me, no question asked. Use OEM key...never worry about WGA ever. I didn't. But using original is worth the time and money since you didn't need to apply some 1337 crack everytime WGA updates, also the packaging and media is so nice, so, get original |
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Oct 8 2008, 12:47 PM
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QUOTE(Matrix @ Oct 8 2008, 12:42 PM) Use OEM key...never worry about WGA ever. I didn't. OEM key won't protect you from WGA if the key is shared with others and activated. the solution is volume license key, period. |
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Oct 8 2008, 12:50 PM
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QUOTE(FarCry3r @ Oct 7 2008, 05:53 PM) me too in the past. I've been using pirated Windows XP since the first gold release back in 2001. No virus whatsoever, I repeat, NO VIRUS WHATSOEVER, it just gimmick. And believe or not, I even called Microsoft support to ask about my pirated Windows problem, and they just help me, no question asked. don't compare your experience with others... majority of illegal Windows XP users out there had the same experiences. btw, you are paying for the phone bill when you call the help line. But using original is worth the time and money since you didn't need to apply some 1337 crack everytime WGA updates, also the packaging and media is so nice, so, get original this just show your immoral darkside. it's embarassing...  |
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Oct 8 2008, 01:24 PM
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QUOTE(dopodplaya @ Oct 8 2008, 12:50 PM) don't compare your experience with others... majority of illegal Windows XP users out there had the same experiences. btw, you are paying for the phone bill when you call the help line. haha can we complain about them sucking out the money off our wallets?this just show your immoral darkside. it's embarassing... damn those microsofts! |
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Oct 8 2008, 01:31 PM
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QUOTE(nimrod2 @ Oct 8 2008, 01:24 PM) haha can we complain about them sucking out the money off our wallets? it's legal business - you prefer jail or a quiet and peaceful days at home?damn those microsofts! keeping things legal is the only way in any kind of business, even the dirtiest one. it's give and take, you want to use their software, you pay the license, so don't brag if you are "safe" when you are using the software illegally... |
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Oct 8 2008, 01:54 PM
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QUOTE(dopodplaya @ Oct 8 2008, 01:31 PM) it's legal business - you prefer jail or a quiet and peaceful days at home? true. i guess the only choice we have is to support other open source software.keeping things legal is the only way in any kind of business, even the dirtiest one. it's give and take, you want to use their software, you pay the license, so don't brag if you are "safe" when you are using the software illegally... there's pretty much no other way. |
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Oct 8 2008, 02:17 PM
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Pathetic. Pirate windows also comes from the original!!!
It's like claiming their own product got problem  |
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Oct 8 2008, 02:27 PM
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QUOTE(ulun64 @ Oct 8 2008, 02:17 PM) Pathetic. Pirate windows also comes from the original!!! wrong - with pirated software - you won't be able to update your system and receive support.It's like claiming their own product got problem yes, the system flawed, but Microsoft delivers patches and updates to genuine Windows users only. even other operating systems have flaws |
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Oct 8 2008, 03:07 PM
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QUOTE(dopodplaya @ Oct 8 2008, 12:50 PM) don't compare your experience with others... majority of illegal Windows XP users out there had the same experiences. btw, you are paying for the phone bill when you call the help line. even legal customer pay for phone bill when contacting the help line, what's the different actually?this just show your immoral darkside. it's embarassing... i think you got the wrong idea, if you read my post before carefully, i said BEFORE this I used pirated one, but after realizing the worthy of genuine products, I start buying them. It's not too late to repent don't you think? Added on October 8, 2008, 3:09 pm QUOTE(dopodplaya @ Oct 8 2008, 02:27 PM) wrong - with pirated software - you won't be able to update your system and receive support. tbh, that's utter bullshit yes, the system flawed, but Microsoft delivers patches and updates to genuine Windows users only. even other operating systems have flaws This post has been edited by FarCry3r: Oct 8 2008, 03:09 PM |
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Oct 8 2008, 03:11 PM
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QUOTE(FarCry3r @ Oct 8 2008, 03:07 PM) even legal customer pay for phone bill when contacting the help line, what's the different actually? you don't have to be proud of using pirated software... read the R&R and understand why you don't have to show off even though you successfully ran Windows illegally.i think you got the wrong idea, if you read my post before carefully, i said BEFORE this I used pirated one, but after realizing the worthy of genuine products, I start buying them. It's not too late to repent don't you think? even though it is "before", your statement denotes that using illegal software is OK. that's embarassing just like saying "stealing is ok as long as the product is not broken and when I have the money I'll pay back the shop for what I steal". |
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Oct 8 2008, 03:23 PM
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QUOTE(FarCry3r @ Oct 7 2008, 05:53 PM) me too in the past. I've been using pirated Windows XP since the first gold release back in 2001. No virus whatsoever, I repeat, NO VIRUS WHATSOEVER, it just gimmick. And believe or not, I even called Microsoft support to ask about my pirated Windows problem, and they just help me, no question asked. What Virus got to do with non-ori Windows? Their concept is non-ori = unable to perform Windows update = unable to plug vulnerability loopholes = susceptible to worm & virus attack... that's the idea. But using original is worth the time and money since you didn't need to apply some 1337 crack everytime WGA updates, also the packaging and media is so nice, so, get original As for Microsoft Tech Support, they got policies on what issue entitled for FREE SUPPORT and what for PAID SUPPORT. Apparently issues concerning VIRUS, WGA & Windows Update-related problem are entitled for free support. Original Windows (FPP - Full Package Product) are entitled for FREE SUPPORT for the first 90-days upon activation or FIRST INCIDENT within the first 2 weeks (grace period) after the 90-days activation. First time installation (FPP as well) also entitled for free tech support guidance on installation. Reinstallation not entertained or if you wished to pay for it, then they will forward your call to Tech Support. +_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+ I'm using VLK Windows XP Pro too and I can tell you even that also not the ETERNAL solution for WGA; your VLK might have been blacklisted. Any product with the PID like 76487-64x-0011903-00101 where the second 3 digits combination of 64x (640~649) tells you that you are on a Volume License Key. Not same for Vista and Office 2007 though. +_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+ The one and only way to actually allows you update while at the same time save yourself from the WGA clampdown is to be picky. Here are some steps which I believe might educate you all on this: » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « |
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Oct 8 2008, 08:45 PM
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some people can get to use vlk and everything as if it was a normal original version . even wga happily acknowledges it
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Oct 8 2008, 09:14 PM
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QUOTE(Kagaya @ Oct 8 2008, 03:23 PM) What Virus got to do with non-ori Windows? Their concept is non-ori = unable to perform Windows update = unable to plug vulnerability loopholes = susceptible to worm & virus attack... that's the idea. don't just see that one only, there's lots of older article microsoft said that pirated copy of Windows may contain viruses, spywares etcAdded on October 8, 2008, 9:15 pm QUOTE(dopodplaya @ Oct 8 2008, 03:11 PM) you don't have to be proud of using pirated software... read the R&R and understand why you don't have to show off even though you successfully ran Windows illegally. well, then, I am sorry for my stupidiness showing I'm a proud illegal Windows user, make peace no war even though it is "before", your statement denotes that using illegal software is OK. that's embarassing just like saying "stealing is ok as long as the product is not broken and when I have the money I'll pay back the shop for what I steal".  This post has been edited by FarCry3r: Oct 8 2008, 09:15 PM |
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Oct 8 2008, 09:57 PM
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C'mon guys, what is this? All the flaming and such.
I was using pirated disc because I lost my original disc but genuine serial number. Currently don't use so much of Windows, more on Mac. |
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Oct 8 2008, 10:01 PM
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Oct 9 2008, 04:31 AM
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pure bs..
im also using a *ahem* copy of windows. for 3+ years i have not formated my os, only updates on the latest service pack.like sp3. it's not the windows which causes errors...ITS THE USER of the windows. i work in the IT line so i KNOW how to maintain my windows. |
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Oct 9 2008, 10:24 AM
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i think he's just trying to say that using pirated software is illegal lor. how oso, if get caught will kena wan. no big deal. |
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Oct 9 2008, 10:40 AM
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QUOTE(macpolian @ Oct 8 2008, 10:01 PM) sigh.... And the reason of this post is?  |
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Oct 9 2008, 05:41 PM
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QUOTE(unknownsubject @ Oct 9 2008, 04:31 AM) pure bs.. Rather shameful to the profession that you still have to use pirated software to do your work or even study.im also using a *ahem* copy of windows. for 3+ years i have not formated my os, only updates on the latest service pack.like sp3. it's not the windows which causes errors...ITS THE USER of the windows. i work in the IT line so i KNOW how to maintain my windows. If your in the IT line, if you dont want 2 pay for windows. Then why dont go open source since your more then cheap enough 2 use pirated software. |
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Oct 9 2008, 05:43 PM
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QUOTE(TechnoDude94 @ Oct 9 2008, 10:40 AM) And the reason of this post is? to add post count. QUOTE(crapp0 @ Oct 9 2008, 05:41 PM) Rather shameful to the profession that you still have to use pirated software to do your work or even study. pwn'd, and kinda true. sorry ah If your in the IT line, if you dont want 2 pay for windows. Then why dont go open source since your more then cheap enough 2 use pirated software. |
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Oct 9 2008, 05:50 PM
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There are so many open source OS out there, any capable IT person would at least have tried out some of it b4 resorting to pirated goods.
Even big firms are going open source such as google and even notebook manufacturers like asus and dell which have ubuntu linux os in it instead of always offering the standard windows OS coz. |
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Oct 13 2008, 08:09 PM
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QUOTE(jihchuan @ Oct 6 2008, 03:28 AM) I hv my xp oem but crashed for som program frequently oso..does oem diff frm buy one? From what i heard OEM comes with the pc, no packing, no cd, only serial no. Buy one (retail), got box and cd, inside software same thing, much more expensive, not much different for users (software wise). If you intend to format your pc yourself go for retail, OEM only have cd key, normally they don't give you the CD (correct me if i'm wrong) |
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Oct 13 2008, 10:40 PM
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QUOTE(Yunan546 @ Oct 13 2008, 08:09 PM) From what i heard OEM comes with the pc, no packing, no cd, only serial no. Buy one (retail), got box and cd, inside software same thing, much more expensive, not much different for users (software wise). If you intend to format your pc yourself go for retail, OEM only have cd key, normally they don't give you the CD (correct me if i'm wrong) you're not quite right. Usually OEM branded PC gives out a "recovery" disc so you can reformat your PC, the difference is you cannot transfer your OEM license to another PC. It's for PC you bought it with... |
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Oct 15 2008, 01:10 PM
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QUOTE(FarCry3r @ Oct 13 2008, 10:40 PM) you're not quite right. Usually OEM branded PC gives out a "recovery" disc so you can reformat your PC, the difference is you cannot transfer your OEM license to another PC. It's for PC you bought it with... so OEM is just for a single pc....what if i want to use it on other pc? |
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Oct 15 2008, 04:55 PM
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QUOTE(FarCry3r @ Oct 13 2008, 10:40 PM) you're not quite right. Usually OEM branded PC gives out a "recovery" disc so you can reformat your PC, the difference is you cannot transfer your OEM license to another PC. It's for PC you bought it with... I've heard of people calling Microsoft telling them that they changed HDD and their allowed to activate/validate their Windows.QUOTE(Yunan546 @ Oct 15 2008, 01:10 PM) so OEM is just for a single pc....what if i want to use it on other pc? You can't. |
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Oct 15 2008, 05:46 PM
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QUOTE(TechnoDude94 @ Oct 15 2008, 04:55 PM) I've heard of people calling Microsoft telling them that they changed HDD and their allowed to activate/validate their Windows. can be done, but that's not ethically legal... |
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Oct 15 2008, 05:47 PM
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QUOTE(TechnoDude94 @ Oct 15 2008, 04:55 PM) I've heard of people calling Microsoft telling them that they changed HDD and their allowed to activate/validate their Windows. what about retail?can i switch to other cpu with this?what if i want to use this on different computers at the same time, if not, does Microsoft provide different versions for this purpose? (always wanted to know)You can't. |
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Oct 15 2008, 05:51 PM
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QUOTE(Yunan546 @ Oct 15 2008, 05:47 PM) what about retail?can i switch to other cpu with this?what if i want to use this on different computers at the same time, if not, does Microsoft provide different versions for this purpose? (always wanted to know) you can move the license to other PC if needed and can call Microsoft if you have reactivation issue(s). You cannot use it on more than one PC, if you still want to use it on more than one PC, you're required to buy an additional license, unless your license is VL (volume license) typically used in corporate environment... |
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Oct 15 2008, 06:08 PM
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QUOTE(FarCry3r @ Oct 15 2008, 05:51 PM) you can move the license to other PC if needed and can call Microsoft if you have reactivation issue(s). You cannot use it on more than one PC, if you still want to use it on more than one PC, you're required to buy an additional license, unless your license is VL (volume license) typically used in corporate environment... thanks for the info |
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Oct 15 2008, 06:19 PM
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QUOTE(dopodplaya @ Oct 8 2008, 02:27 PM) wrong - with pirated software - you won't be able to update your system and receive support. i'm using pirated software, and still i can update to service pack 3.. it's just that u dont need to install wga when it ask u to. But once u install WGA, that's it, you no longer able to install updates / patches on ur pc. Basically we can still receive and install update, but have to make sure we dont install wga.yes, the system flawed, but Microsoft delivers patches and updates to genuine Windows users only. even other operating systems have flaws |
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Oct 15 2008, 07:57 PM
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2,602 posts Joined: Jun 2008 From: Meow...
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QUOTE(bsmohd @ Oct 15 2008, 06:19 PM) i'm using pirated software, and still i can update to service pack 3.. it's just that u dont need to install wga when it ask u to. But once u install WGA, that's it, you no longer able to install updates / patches on ur pc. Basically we can still receive and install update, but have to make sure we dont install wga. If you know what to do, WGA can be anywhere on your computer and it still wont detect it is pirated. |
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Oct 16 2008, 04:17 PM
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Ori is the best , i using two windows for my computer
1)xp professional 2)vista home basic |
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Oct 16 2008, 04:19 PM
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i using two windows for my comp.
1)xp professional 2)vista home basic |
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Oct 16 2008, 08:10 PM
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QUOTE(Yunan546 @ Oct 15 2008, 01:10 PM) so OEM is just for a single pc....what if i want to use it on other pc? OEM version won't allow you to do that because the activation will fail. anyway, even with the retail edition, you are only supposed to use Vista on one PC at any one time. the difference here is that you can uninstall it from one machine and install it in another. |
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Oct 16 2008, 08:34 PM
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QUOTE(unknownsubject @ Oct 9 2008, 04:31 AM) pure bs.. Share ur ways on how to maintain windows since u said it is users' problem.im also using a *ahem* copy of windows. for 3+ years i have not formated my os, only updates on the latest service pack.like sp3. it's not the windows which causes errors...ITS THE USER of the windows. i work in the IT line so i KNOW how to maintain my windows. U work min IT line ,yet u use pirated Windows.... Why don u select open source software? QUOTE(atomica @ Oct 16 2008, 08:10 PM) OEM version won't allow you to do that because the activation will fail. Retail version does not need activation?anyway, even with the retail edition, you are only supposed to use Vista on one PC at any one time. the difference here is that you can uninstall it from one machine and install it in another. |
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Oct 16 2008, 08:36 PM
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6,543 posts Joined: Dec 2004 From: Miri
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QUOTE(beyond_99 @ Oct 16 2008, 08:34 PM) Retail version does not need activation? daa... it still need activation, but the license can transferred to another machine... |
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Oct 16 2008, 08:40 PM
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Wat is the Windows called which is preinstalled in laptop n run recovery tool to reformat?
That one does require activation, right? Can I install(transfer) the Windows to another com? |
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Oct 16 2008, 08:47 PM
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6,738 posts Joined: Dec 2006 From: Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia | Eau Claire, Wisconsin
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QUOTE(beyond_99 @ Oct 16 2008, 08:40 PM) Wat is the Windows called which is preinstalled in laptop n run recovery tool to reformat? That's called OEM. NO it CAN'T BE TRANSFERRED to another computer.That one does require activation, right? Can I install(transfer) the Windows to another com? |
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Oct 16 2008, 08:59 PM
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U mean that i canot transfer or not suppose to transfer even my previous pc break down?
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Oct 16 2008, 09:21 PM
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6,738 posts Joined: Dec 2006 From: Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia | Eau Claire, Wisconsin
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QUOTE(beyond_99 @ Oct 16 2008, 08:59 PM) U mean that i canot transfer or not suppose to transfer even my previous pc break down? YES, that is what I mean. You can't transfer the license to a new computer, example, new motherboard. If you'd really have to transfer the license, you can call Microsoft and tell make some crap up so that they'll allow you to activate it. Sometimes they let you activate and sometimes they don't. So please buy OEM and activate it a few times on a few different computers @ your own risk. |
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Oct 16 2008, 10:37 PM
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QUOTE(TechnoDude94 @ Oct 16 2008, 09:21 PM) YES, that is what I mean. You can't transfer the license to a new computer, example, new motherboard. If you'd really have to transfer the license, you can call Microsoft and tell make some crap up so that they'll allow you to activate it. Sometimes they let you activate and sometimes they don't. So please buy OEM and activate it a few times on a few different computers @ your own risk. having said that it will tolerate minor upgrades, such as changing graphics card, adding hard drives, adding ram, etc.but i believe it will never allow you to change the mobo. |
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Oct 16 2008, 10:44 PM
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6,738 posts Joined: Dec 2006 From: Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia | Eau Claire, Wisconsin
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QUOTE(atomica @ Oct 16 2008, 10:37 PM) having said that it will tolerate minor upgrades, such as changing graphics card, adding hard drives, adding ram, etc. I've been forumming here in LYN Forum for about 2 years and I've heard of reported cases that people who changed their motherboards were able to reactivate. Not allowed everytime though.but i believe it will never allow you to change the mobo. |
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Oct 17 2008, 12:20 AM
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6,543 posts Joined: Dec 2004 From: Miri
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QUOTE(TechnoDude94 @ Oct 16 2008, 10:44 PM) I've been forumming here in LYN Forum for about 2 years and I've heard of reported cases that people who changed their motherboards were able to reactivate. Not allowed everytime though. same brand of mobo perhaps? with only addition to extra RAM slots, USB etc etc? |
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Oct 17 2008, 12:28 AM
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QUOTE(TechnoDude94 @ Oct 16 2008, 10:44 PM) I've been forumming here in LYN Forum for about 2 years and I've heard of reported cases that people who changed their motherboards were able to reactivate. Not allowed everytime though. interesting. have not been so lucky cause every time i change mobo, vista would fail the activation.i have to call up to do phone activation to get it working again. |
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Oct 17 2008, 06:53 AM
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So, u can activate ur Vista?
U call microsoft n tell them? They give new serial or somethngelse? |
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Oct 17 2008, 06:23 PM
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6,738 posts Joined: Dec 2006 From: Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia | Eau Claire, Wisconsin
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QUOTE(FarCry3r @ Oct 17 2008, 12:20 AM) same brand of mobo perhaps? with only addition to extra RAM slots, USB etc etc? Sorry but don't really understand what you mean. QUOTE(atomica @ Oct 17 2008, 12:28 AM) interesting. have not been so lucky cause every time i change mobo, vista would fail the activation. Dude, read the previous posts. i have to call up to do phone activation to get it working again. Not asking you to read all the previous pages. That's the issue that we've been stressing on.  QUOTE(beyond_99 @ Oct 17 2008, 06:53 AM) So, u can activate ur Vista? They'll allow you to reactivate but sometimes not. You understand?U call microsoft n tell them? They give new serial or somethngelse? |
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Oct 17 2008, 06:43 PM
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Yea, I get it.
Thanks for all of your explanation. |
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Oct 17 2008, 07:00 PM
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6,738 posts Joined: Dec 2006 From: Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia | Eau Claire, Wisconsin
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QUOTE(beyond_99 @ Oct 17 2008, 06:43 PM) Yea, I get it. No problem man, that what LYN Forum is for.Thanks for all of your explanation. |
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Oct 18 2008, 01:11 PM
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i'm wondering those who take pride in using ori windows, do they also listen to mp3 from legitimate source, watching ori dvd's, pay their taxes, quit rent, assessment fee, give money to their parents??
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Oct 18 2008, 02:48 PM
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QUOTE(narien @ Oct 18 2008, 01:11 PM) i'm wondering those who take pride in using ori windows, do they also listen to mp3 from legitimate source, watching ori dvd's, pay their taxes, quit rent, assessment fee, give money to their parents?? wow. loaded question :-) |
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Oct 18 2008, 08:33 PM
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QUOTE(narien @ Oct 18 2008, 01:11 PM) i'm wondering those who take pride in using ori windows, do they also listen to mp3 from legitimate source, watching ori dvd's, pay their taxes, quit rent, assessment fee, give money to their parents?? There are. Then they are those prefer pirated stuff coz they dont need to goto the pain of purchasing something which they need but just dont want 2 pay for it or have a cheaper or free alternative but still choose the pirated goods since they are stubborn enough to not wanting to learn how to use the free software and complain about why the free software isnt like the pirated software which they are so used to.I used to do that but now i either go open source or i buy my CD's or just listen to music online through last.fm since i'm connected to the net constantly. There are ways to beat the pirated addcition, the only thing is whether you want 2 and if you are willing to for go the luxury of pirated goods. Nearly everything i used is either freeware or open source from openoffice to 7zip to thunderbird and firefox. Photo editing i use gimp which is also open source. If you want non pirated platform, go for fedora, ubuntu or red hat OS since most of the apps for those OS are either freeware/open source. The future of computing is open source as google as demo quite extensively with their apps. As for watching US tv shows, i just goto the their own website which provide free viewing like NBC's heroes. This post has been edited by crapp0: Oct 18 2008, 08:39 PM |
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Oct 18 2008, 08:38 PM
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6,738 posts Joined: Dec 2006 From: Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia | Eau Claire, Wisconsin
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QUOTE(narien @ Oct 18 2008, 01:11 PM) i'm wondering those who take pride in using ori windows, do they also listen to mp3 from legitimate source, watching ori dvd's, pay their taxes, quit rent, assessment fee, give money to their parents?? You should ask them yourself and I doubt they'll answer you but I think that you'll get flamed.QUOTE(atomica @ Oct 18 2008, 02:48 PM) wow. loaded question :-) Point of this post is pointless. |
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Oct 19 2008, 01:34 AM
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i dont mind using ori if its not so cekik darah lor
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Oct 19 2008, 01:38 PM
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QUOTE(kyoshilang @ Oct 19 2008, 01:34 AM) i dont mind using ori if its not so cekik darah lor How much is cekik darah?For some, even RM100 is oledi cekik darah and they so used to pirated stuff, when they see the price of adobe dreamweaver or microsoft office, they just resign themselves to using pirated software since its beyond their means but they dont mind being a thief since they need it rather then want it. And this wont change until they change. |
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Oct 19 2008, 04:59 PM
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225 posts Joined: Jun 2008 From: mummy's womb
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i haven encouter this b4 ...
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Oct 19 2008, 05:30 PM
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6,238 posts Joined: Sep 2005 From: Kuala Lumpur
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I use pirated Vista, and there has been more PC that I service using original XP all together compared to myself in 1 year.
In the end, it's the usage~ be smart user |
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Oct 20 2008, 09:48 AM
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problemnya i m using ori on laptop and pirated on desktop, i find both also crash for most of the same reasons, of course putting aside from those online support and features.
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Oct 20 2008, 09:55 AM
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2,657 posts Joined: Feb 2008 From: Highbury House, 75 Drayton Park, London
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Using Jack Sparrow XP for few years, no crash whatsoever other than 1 time kena virus or reinstall to have fresh copy.
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Oct 20 2008, 02:51 PM
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2,334 posts Joined: May 2007 From: Kuching
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How actually they detect ori or not. When we dl some stuff from Microsoft website it will demand us to check our OS, right? I using *ahem* one but why pass all the check... LOL!
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Oct 20 2008, 02:55 PM
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3,102 posts Joined: May 2005 From: Penang *̡͌l̡*̡̡
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Then does MS does the analysis if using Ori compare to Pirated??
maybe the result will be the same... At last.. this all depend on User... Window ori or pirated not the issue~ |
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Oct 20 2008, 03:05 PM
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QUOTE(M1X @ Oct 20 2008, 02:51 PM) How actually they detect ori or not. When we dl some stuff from Microsoft website it will demand us to check our OS, right? I using *ahem* one but why pass all the check... LOL! because you have validation files hacked to bypass the check, D'OH! |
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Oct 20 2008, 03:12 PM
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2,334 posts Joined: May 2007 From: Kuching
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Woh donno wor, I bought that *ahem* CD long ago 2005 maybe... No matter what new softwares from MS also can run....
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Oct 20 2008, 06:11 PM
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Been using pirated winXP for 2 years at least. Never experience computer crashing before, and im able to download stuff from microsoft after verifying.
seldom get any viruses, but then I'm using AVG8.0, maybe there's some lurking inside undetected. Windows Defender also didn't detect any malware. Never used an original before, maybe its better in performance compared to mine... |
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Oct 20 2008, 07:09 PM
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QUOTE(M1X @ Oct 20 2008, 03:12 PM) Woh donno wor, I bought that *ahem* CD long ago 2005 maybe... No matter what new softwares from MS also can run.... QUOTE(Ilyich @ Oct 20 2008, 06:11 PM) Been using pirated winXP for 2 years at least. Never experience computer crashing before, and im able to download stuff from microsoft after verifying. Bith of u patch the Win or sthelse?seldom get any viruses, but then I'm using AVG8.0, maybe there's some lurking inside undetected. Windows Defender also didn't detect any malware. Never used an original before, maybe its better in performance compared to mine... There is fake WGA which can bypass the verify process. Btw, AVG 8.0 can not a keylogger that is ravmone.exe. The virus spread easily through pendrive. |
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Oct 21 2008, 02:42 PM
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2,334 posts Joined: May 2007 From: Kuching
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Nope I didn't ever update the windows (do I really need those update?! Since my pc not go online)
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Oct 21 2008, 04:48 PM
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update does not seem to have a lot of effect. So, i do not update although it is available.
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