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icemanfx
post Oct 23 2021, 12:26 AM

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Nitrile glove price in september 2021 is cheaper than april 2020. increased in volume could mean gained market share from other countries.

For u.s market, nitrile glove took 15 months from april 2020 price to reach peak price and 3 months to drop below april 2020 price. oops! broken clock strike again.

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post Nov 2 2021, 09:35 PM

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Top Glove sits on RM860 mil paper loss on massive share buyback

https://www.theedgemarkets.com/article/top-...e-share-buyback

It is a matter of time, topg need to realize this loss in p&l.

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post Nov 10 2021, 10:11 AM

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QUOTE(koja6049 @ Nov 4 2021, 09:32 PM)
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This is the data from Morningstar, you can see for yourself. From 2013 - 2020 their PE and PB ratio all point towards an overvaluation of the stock. If you ask me to buy topglove when it is priced at 6,7,8,9 etc i will not touch it with a 10-foot pole.

But in 2021, after the crash, the PE is not 2.6 and PB is 2.78. Is it a good value? I'm not sure. But if the numbers continue to drop then maybe it can be a consideration  smile.gif
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Quoting current PE for a downtrend earning could be blindsided.
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post Nov 12 2021, 10:18 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Nov 12 2021, 09:37 AM)
and TopGlove is seeking approval to renew its share buybacks!!!

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Good idea... let's give the boss more chance to do more buybacks!
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May be some major shareholders intended to sell substantial sum and tansri doesn't want these selling to cause price to drop.

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post Nov 17 2021, 10:17 PM

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KUALA LUMPUR (Nov 17): JP Morgan which has been bearish on the glove sector since last year, has once again slashed its target price (TP) for Top Glove Corp Bhd to RM1.50 — a 67.33% discount from its current price of RM2.51 — while maintaining an “underweight” rating.

In a note, JP Morgan said the market is underestimating the potential impact of the bottoming gloves average selling price (ASP) and the shift in pricing power back to the buyers.

The note also covered Hartalega Holdings Bhd and Kossan Rubber Industries Bhd. JP Morgan gave an “underweight” rating and a fair value of RM4.00 to Hartalega, 36.25% lower than its current price of RM5.45 while Kossan’s rating was “neutral” and its fair value is pegged at RM2.00, down 3.5% from its current price of RM2.07.

JP Morgan analysts Jeffrey Ng and Sean Teo said the operating margin per unit (OPM) from the latest results briefings from the Malaysian glove makers might fall below pre-Covid-19 levels despite earlier estimates forecasting a better-than-pre-Covid-19 OPM.

“The industry is still finding [its] bottom. Note that glove ASP has dropped from US$115 in Feb-21 to today’s US$28-$30. It is now clear that glove ASP has reverted to a cost-plus basis. Channel checks indicate that current OPM is already nearing pre-Covid-19 margins. But the main question is will margins compress below pre-Covid-19 levels due to intensified competition from China? The risks are tilted toward the downside and the market, in our view, has not fully discounted this risk,” the analysts wrote.

They also cut the OPM assumptions by 20%-30% similar to pre-Covid-19 margins of US$2.4-5 and said that the glove makers will see a mean reversion and trade at their respective historical trading ranges of 13-18 times earnings unless a price war happens.

https://www.theedgemarkets.com/article/jp-m...underestimation

P.s I am only a messenger.

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post Nov 21 2021, 08:07 PM

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China glove export data october 2021

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It seems october price was below q2/20 level and china nitrile glove export in october is many folds of q1/20.


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post Nov 21 2021, 08:25 PM

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On November 8, the USTR extended the expiration date for tariff exemptions on 81 out of 99 types of personal protective equipment for six more months, until May. But the tariff exemptions for the remaining 18 products will expire at the end of this month, including certain types of face masks, hand sanitisers and disposable gloves.

https://www.scmp.com/economy/china-economy/...ck-after-nearly

May mean disposable gloves is no longer critical in the u.s and likely to benefit local exporters to the us. expect china gloves exporter to dump excess supply and price in other markets.


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post Dec 9 2021, 07:27 AM

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The world's largest vaccine maker will halve the production of its Covid-19 vaccine because it has no fresh orders, its top-ranking executive has said.

India's Serum Institute is sitting on a stockpile of half a billion doses of Covishield, the local version of AstraZeneca's Vaxzevria jab, the firm's CEO Adar Poonawalla told CNBC-TV18.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-59574878

Similar stockpile could occur for gloves.

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post Dec 10 2021, 02:12 PM

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KUALA LUMPUR (Dec 10): Top Glove Corp Bhd reported on Friday that its first quarter (1Q) net profit dropped sharply to RM185.72 million from RM2.36 billion a year earlier on lower revenue.

In a statement to Bursa Malaysia, Top Glove said revenue fell to RM1.58 billion in the first quarter ended Nov 30, 2021 (1QFY22) from RM4.76 billion a year earlier.

https://www.theedgemarkets.com/article/top-...6b-year-earlier

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post Dec 20 2021, 11:16 PM

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it seems nitrile glove price in november 21 was at pre-pandemic level. forecast q4/21 profit is >30% lower than q3/21.

gain of nitrile glove export were mostly from anhui and jiangxi province. it seems china producers have taken substantial market share from mys.

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post Dec 21 2021, 03:12 AM

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QUOTE(airtawarian @ Dec 21 2021, 02:07 AM)
When everyone fears it is time to enter. Rule no.1 do not follow the majority
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Catching a falling knife could end in injury.

For reasons, most herd members end in slaughterhouse or over the cliff.

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post Dec 21 2021, 08:56 AM

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QUOTE(airtawarian @ Dec 21 2021, 08:44 AM)
As long as the company is fundamentally viable operating with slow CAGR it is worth for long term accumulation. Never ever follow others But the company future prospect
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In glove production, heating is a significant cost and not viable to run production line at below full capacity.

Given supply > demand in the industry, profit margin will likely razor thin and some may operate at losses.
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post Dec 21 2021, 01:08 PM

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QUOTE(airtawarian @ Dec 21 2021, 09:34 AM)
Supply > demand? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣. We need more people who are not in healthcare line like you🙈. My Gentle advise read more news all over the world.
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QUOTE(airtawarian @ Dec 21 2021, 10:09 AM)
Lol. Just trolling 😛😛 those who are in healthcare Line know demand would not be enough. No doubt alot Small players coming in and competition from other countries. History has told us again and again What happen to them. Actually more grateful ppl afraid. Hehe….
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QUOTE(airtawarian @ Dec 21 2021, 11:48 AM)
Lol. Go figure out How much total population in this world and How much disposal gloves being used daily. Go do Your own study. Dont want feed You all🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪.
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Glove asp is the product of demand and supply, and price trend in last few months said otherwise.

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post Dec 22 2021, 12:50 AM

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QUOTE(airtawarian @ Dec 21 2021, 07:27 PM)
Adoi. I think You better study the history of gloves first. Lazy to explain. Dont Just look at 2020 only due to Covid. That is totally different scenario altogether
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QUOTE(airtawarian @ Dec 21 2021, 07:28 PM)
Rule no.1 When media ask You to sell, it is time For You to accumulate. When media ask You to enter it is time to run🤣🤣
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QUOTE(airtawarian @ Dec 21 2021, 08:25 PM)
The media wants to potray as bad as possible on their paymaster to reap profits from retailers. It all boils down to sentiments for traders🤭
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if one knows glove industry long enough is aware profit margin is razor thin and many weren't profitable.

china customs data is not from media.

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post Dec 22 2021, 09:06 AM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Dec 22 2021, 08:57 AM)
The boss insistence to go thru with the HK listing is mind boggling.

Agree yhtan?

Me thinks it is nothing but a selfish ego boosting exercise. A placement of shares which dilutes minority shareholders for what?

Money raised used for what?

Capex?

The worst nightmare is using the money in another crazed share buyback exercise again...

Wait...

Trying to be bigger than MrDiy now?
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A channel to move shareholders funds to overseas.
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post Dec 27 2021, 04:03 PM

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QUOTE(airtawarian @ Dec 27 2021, 02:45 PM)
Lol all the data and statistic Can be found via usditc. Dont be lazy ass. Even ASP is increasing. 🤭
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China customs data said otherwise. if you are vested then share price will reflect after next qr.

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post Dec 27 2021, 04:46 PM

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QUOTE(airtawarian @ Dec 27 2021, 04:22 PM)
Which data u referring? Fake website? Even china ASP in november Naik🤭
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In time, share price will tell whose data is fake.

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post Dec 27 2021, 05:18 PM

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QUOTE(airtawarian @ Dec 27 2021, 04:51 PM)
Lol. Bursa de casino You still believe their share price🙈
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Then why bother with topg?
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post Dec 29 2021, 11:21 AM

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QUOTE(airtawarian @ Dec 29 2021, 01:24 AM)
Where got bother share price. Ppl look at fundamental lah not share price control by syndicate🤭

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Then why bother with fundamentals?


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post Dec 29 2021, 11:44 AM

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QUOTE(airtawarian @ Dec 29 2021, 11:24 AM)
You got prob with comprehension? 🤭 share price is determined by syndicate not ordinary folks like us. We ikan bilis look at company’s cagr🤣🤣🤣
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If share price is not correlated to cagr or fundamental; beside academic purpose, how cagr could be relevant to #retailers?

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