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post Sep 27 2008, 10:22 AM, updated 18y ago

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I managed to get WindowsXP pro original OEM CD from my company as my company is no longer using them. But on the CD cover it's written "Includes Service Pack 1a". that's mean it's sp1 right?
If i turn on the automatic updates, will it be updated to sp2? hmm.gif

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post Sep 27 2008, 10:26 AM

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u can straight away update to sp3 i think
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post Sep 27 2008, 10:27 AM

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Yes, it will update. as long as it is legal and original.

But technically OEM license is non transferable and illegal if you want to do what you said earlier. It should only be installed in the PC that the OEM license was purchased with. That's why it is called OEM.
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post Sep 27 2008, 10:28 AM

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SP3 only can be updated from SP2. Not SP1 not XP 2002.
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post Sep 27 2008, 10:30 AM

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QUOTE(dreamthief @ Sep 27 2008, 10:27 AM)
Yes, it will update. as long as it is legal and original.

But technically OEM license is non transferable and illegal if you want to do what you said earlier. It should only be installed in the PC that the OEM license was purchased with. That's why it is called OEM.
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support that... it still will update but the way u use the OEM license is illegal. U can update from SP1 to SP3, but be warn, it's around 300 to 400MB if I'm not mistaken.




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post Sep 27 2008, 10:35 AM

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QUOTE(dreamthief @ Sep 27 2008, 10:27 AM)
Yes, it will update. as long as it is legal and original.

But technically OEM license is non transferable and illegal if you want to do what you said earlier. It should only be installed in the PC that the OEM license was purchased with. That's why it is called OEM.
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Previously the CPU that uses this CD-key is using Vista Business now. that means now no pc is using the CD-key. If i install this OS to my pc, will microsoft detect it as genuine windows?
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post Sep 27 2008, 10:36 AM

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QUOTE(seeseng @ Sep 27 2008, 10:28 AM)
SP3 only can be updated from SP2. Not SP1 not XP 2002.
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Windows XP Service Pack 3
Release Date: May 6, 2008

Windows XP Service Pack 3 is a service pack that is cumulative back to the last currently-supported service pack. This means that Windows XP Service Pack 3 contains all the fixes that were included with Windows XP Service Pack 2 (SP2). If you have already installed Windows XP Service Pack 3 (SP3), you do not have to install Windows XP SP2.

Note : You must have either Windows XP Service Pack 1a or Windows XP Service Pack 2 installed in order to install Windows XP Service Pack 3.

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/322389
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post Sep 27 2008, 10:39 AM

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QUOTE(ac_N1 @ Sep 27 2008, 10:35 AM)
Previously the CPU that uses this CD-key is using Vista Business now. that means now no pc is using the CD-key. If i install this OS to my pc, will microsoft detect it as genuine windows?
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If it can be install, then it will detected as genuine. Some OEM CD can't even start the installation on other brand of machine.
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post Sep 27 2008, 10:40 AM

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I have done this before.Installed WinXP SP1 OEM in my desktop and updated it to SP3.But I update the windows by downloading the SP manually.
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post Sep 27 2008, 10:47 AM

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QUOTE(stormaker @ Sep 27 2008, 10:39 AM)
If it can be install, then it will detected as genuine. Some OEM CD can't even start the installation on other brand of machine.
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Err.... this CD is for HP. Can the installation be executed?
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post Sep 27 2008, 10:56 AM

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QUOTE(ac_N1 @ Sep 27 2008, 10:47 AM)
Err.... this CD is for HP. Can the installation be executed?
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try to install 1st, then u'll know, no harm trying. If it cannot be install, u will be inform right at the start, so no time wasted. It happened on me when I use Dell Windows XP OEM CD for notebook to install on other brand of notebook.
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post Sep 27 2008, 11:05 AM

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QUOTE(stormaker @ Sep 27 2008, 10:56 AM)
try to install 1st, then u'll know, no harm trying. If it cannot be install, u will be inform right at the start, so no time wasted. It happened on me when I use Dell Windows XP OEM CD for notebook to install on other brand of notebook.
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This is bad sad.gif

What will happen if i install it into more than 2 CPU? hmm.gif

Sorry that i ask too many question cos all this time i'm using jack sparrow edition software and i'm not exposed to genuine software >_<
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post Sep 27 2008, 11:11 AM

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QUOTE(ac_N1 @ Sep 27 2008, 11:05 AM)
This is bad sad.gif

What will happen if i install it into more than 2 CPU?  hmm.gif

Sorry that i ask too many question cos all this time i'm using jack sparrow edition software and i'm not exposed to genuine software >_<
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don't worry, nothing bad will happen, as I said, the worst is cannot install, if can install, then it'll just like other genuine Windows, it will not detect whether it's use on 2 or more CPUs or not. OPppsss ... don't know this is allowed to be discuss or not ... sweat.gif
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post Sep 27 2008, 11:22 AM

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QUOTE(stormaker @ Sep 27 2008, 11:11 AM)
don't worry, nothing bad will happen, as I said, the worst is cannot install, if can install, then it'll just like other genuine Windows, it will not detect whether it's use on 2 or more CPUs or not.  OPppsss ... don't know this is allowed to be discuss or not ...  sweat.gif
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No worries... we're discussing about GENUINE OEM software nod.gif
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post Sep 27 2008, 11:26 AM

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I tried installing an OEM Windows XP Pro from Fujitsu to Kohjinsha and it fails miserably.

On any Fujitsu, it remained activated but on the Kohjinsha, it requires an activation in 30 days. And if you try to update or register, it fails again.
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QUOTE(acbc @ Sep 27 2008, 11:26 AM)
I tried installing an OEM Windows XP Pro from Fujitsu to Kohjinsha and it fails miserably.

On any Fujitsu, it remained activated but on the Kohjinsha, it requires an activation in 30 days. And if you try to update or register, it fails again.
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I think different manufacturer have different control of their OEM license distribution, but if micro$oft start to scanning from WindowsUpdate ... TS having tough luck here ...

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post Sep 27 2008, 11:44 AM

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If you try using dell OEM windows xp,I think it should work.
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post Sep 27 2008, 11:46 AM

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QUOTE(stormaker @ Sep 27 2008, 11:31 AM)
I think different manufacturer have different control of their OEM license distribution, but if micro$oft start to scanning from WindowsUpdate ... TS having tough luck here ...
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Scan from windows update? Do they? As for as i'm concerned they only scan for non-genuine edition of their OS hmm.gif
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post Dec 4 2008, 09:17 PM

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i notices people selling in lelong.com.my Windows XP Pro for Malaysia. What does it mean by for Malaysia?
Will there be any conflicts if i buy XP from other countries and use in Malaysia?
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post Dec 4 2008, 11:58 PM

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use nlite n slipstream xp sp3 into sp1 dis lah
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post Dec 5 2008, 12:01 AM

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QUOTE(ac_N1 @ Sep 27 2008, 10:47 AM)
Err.... this CD is for HP. Can the installation be executed?
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no


Added on December 5, 2008, 12:01 am
QUOTE(ac_N1 @ Sep 27 2008, 10:22 AM)
I managed to get WindowsXP pro original OEM CD from my company as my company is no longer using them. But on the CD cover it's written "Includes Service Pack 1a". that's mean it's sp1 right?
If i turn on the automatic updates, will it be updated to sp2? hmm.gif

Thanks in advance  notworthy.gif
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yes sp1


Added on December 5, 2008, 12:02 am
QUOTE(dreamthief @ Sep 27 2008, 10:27 AM)
Yes, it will update. as long as it is legal and original.

But technically OEM license is non transferable and illegal if you want to do what you said earlier. It should only be installed in the PC that the OEM license was purchased with. That's why it is called OEM.
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agree


Added on December 5, 2008, 12:02 am
QUOTE(ac_N1 @ Sep 27 2008, 10:35 AM)
Previously the CPU that uses this CD-key is using Vista Business now. that means now no pc is using the CD-key. If i install this OS to my pc, will microsoft detect it as genuine windows?
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yes if u can install icon_idea.gif


Added on December 5, 2008, 12:03 am
QUOTE(ac_N1 @ Sep 27 2008, 11:05 AM)
This is bad sad.gif

What will happen if i install it into more than 2 CPU?  hmm.gif

Sorry that i ask too many question cos all this time i'm using jack sparrow edition software and i'm not exposed to genuine software >_<
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if the cd is activated more than 2 times, u need to call microsoft to activate it manually.

This post has been edited by eviljonz: Dec 5 2008, 12:03 AM
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post Dec 5 2008, 12:22 AM

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use nlite n slipstreem the xp sp3 into a bootable cd wif u xp installation cd
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post Dec 5 2008, 01:09 AM

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Ok... interesting topic. This is what I know.

1. Installing OEM licensed on another machine.
Microsoft does not openly oppose to this, but to most of us, that's a nod to the other direction. Just don't have more than 1 PC with it and you should be legal. 2 PCs can be done, but no one wanna know that one.

2. Installing OEM on a machine.
This is the fun part. The machine would have to be new. The interesting part being, Microsoft never quite said ANYTHING on how many percent had to be new neither, my sources from Microsoft told me it could be as little as a new set of keyboard and mouse, but you never heard it from me.

3. Installing on another machine and activating it.
See, I dont' understand this part fully. You can install up to 2 machines with same key without problems in a short duration, (say about 2~3 months) wont' bug you as much unless you change hardwares of the said machines. Reinstall during this period and you're screwed, you'll have to call up Microsoft and talk to them about the re-installing and they'll provide you with the activation keys.

4. Installing XP Home using OEM license (Legal) for another machine.
You can install it by visiting your local ah beng if you lost the cd, or transfering from another machine of a different make. It wouldn't make a difference, and most probably those CD that came preinstalled by their machine's maker would be tied to their specific product. It'll probably cause some problem for you when you install it into another machine.

5. Installing XP Pro?
Ok, you can't do this. I'm pretty sure, especially those machines that came with XP Pro 1~2 License User things. I don't think those came with Professional licenses are of OEM or are capable of it. Most of the makers seem to use a specific licensed CD for these. So if you're installing this without the CD or on another machine, you're pretty much out of luck. You can still try it tho. Welcome to dispute this.

6. Will it update?
If you can install it, yes it'll update. That's the short answer of it.
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post Dec 5 2008, 03:07 PM

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QUOTE(chiunfah @ Dec 4 2008, 09:17 PM)
i notices people selling in lelong.com.my Windows XP Pro for Malaysia. What does it mean by for Malaysia?
Will there be any conflicts if i buy XP from other countries and use in Malaysia?
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Possibility that there'll be Bahasa Melayu?
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post Dec 8 2008, 01:48 AM

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hmm .. I install before !! LOL.. they will update from SP1 -> SP2 first .. after that only SP2 -> SP3 .. LOL .. consume a lot time just to install from SP1 to SP3 .. T-T

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post Dec 9 2008, 01:42 AM

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QUOTE(Lucifer96 @ Dec 5 2008, 01:09 AM)
5. Installing XP Pro?
Ok, you can't do this. I'm pretty sure, especially those machines that came with XP Pro 1~2 License User things. I don't think those came with Professional licenses are of OEM or are capable of it. Most of the makers seem to use a specific licensed CD for these. So if you're installing this without the CD or on another machine, you're pretty much out of luck. You can still try it tho. Welcome to dispute this.
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AFAIK, Windows XP Professional also comes in OEM package. Plus usually sticker stamped on your OEM PC's casing are probably dummy Product Key, you have to dig out the real Product Key inside your PC. I've already successfully reinstalled Windows XP Pro OEM license with Retail CD and vice versa, no problem.


Added on December 9, 2008, 1:43 am
QUOTE(stealth89 @ Dec 8 2008, 01:48 AM)
hmm .. I install before !! LOL.. they will update from SP1 -> SP2 first .. after that only SP2 -> SP3 .. LOL .. consume a lot time just to install from SP1 to SP3 .. T-T

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That's why, get nLite and slipstream SP1 to those SP1/SP1a CD. Faster, no need to manual install the service pack. rolleyes.gif

This post has been edited by FarCry3r: Dec 9 2008, 01:43 AM
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post Dec 9 2008, 11:52 AM

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QUOTE(stealth89 @ Dec 8 2008, 01:48 AM)
hmm .. I install before !! LOL.. they will update from SP1 -> SP2 first .. after that only SP2 -> SP3 .. LOL .. consume a lot time just to install from SP1 to SP3 .. T-T

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Bro, you don't need SP2 to install SP3. Last time I had a Windows disc without any SP's pre-slipstreamed, I directly install SP3 into it and it work.

QUOTE(FarCry3r @ Dec 9 2008, 01:42 AM)
AFAIK, Windows XP Professional also comes in OEM package. Plus usually sticker stamped on your OEM PC's casing are probably dummy Product Key, you have to dig out the real Product Key inside your PC. I've already successfully reinstalled Windows XP Pro OEM license with Retail CD and vice versa, no problem.


Added on December 9, 2008, 1:43 am
That's why, get nLite and slipstream SP1 to those SP1/SP1a CD. Faster, no need to manual install the service pack. rolleyes.gif
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Bro, what's "SP1a"?
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QUOTE(stealth89 @ Dec 8 2008, 01:48 AM)
hmm .. I install before !! LOL.. they will update from SP1 -> SP2 first .. after that only SP2 -> SP3 .. LOL .. consume a lot time just to install from SP1 to SP3 .. T-T

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When you get SP you can straight jump to SP3.

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post Dec 9 2008, 12:35 PM

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QUOTE(-Torrz @ Dec 9 2008, 12:01 PM)
When you get SP you can straight jump to SP3.
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That's what I did. doh.gif shakehead.gif
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QUOTE(TechnoDude94 @ Dec 9 2008, 11:52 AM)
Bro, what's "SP1a"?
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SP1a is same as SP1, it just have Java Virtual Machine (JVM) removed from the SP package because of the lawsuit filed by Sun Microsystems. That's why you never see JVM on SP1 and later SP. Only handful of old Microsoft product(s) such as Microsoft Visual Studio 6.0 that still have JVM bundled.

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post Dec 9 2008, 12:56 PM

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QUOTE(FarCry3r @ Dec 9 2008, 12:49 PM)
SP1a is same as SP1, it just have Java Virtual Machine (JVM) removed from the SP package because of the lawsuit filed by Sun Microsystems. That's why you never see JVM on SP1 and later SP. Only handful of old Microsoft product(s) such as Microsoft Visual Studio 6.0 that still have JVM bundled.
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I see, thanks for the fast reply.
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QUOTE(TechnoDude94 @ Dec 9 2008, 12:56 PM)
I see, thanks for the fast reply.
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Not really fast. It's 1 hour passed since you asked me tongue.gif Maybe I just missed that out rolleyes.gif

 

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