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post Dec 29 2008, 05:35 AM

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QUOTE(linkinstreet @ Dec 29 2008, 03:43 AM)
lol, baik senior. Sebab diorang senior. kang merajuk kang. Tak pasal2 kena ban dari server
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I'll answer some, and I'll leave some for the others to answer. Or you can combine my answer with their answers. It's up to you to add up jumble or anything. Because you are MSRians as well.


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2 – Honestly, I am used to games like Need for Speed and Grid, which are more of an arcaedish racing than sim. So what are the difference between games like that with a  racing simulator



When we mentioned sim, we are talking about simulating real world experience. To make it comprehensible from a layman’s point of view, a simulator tries to imitate a racing world that is precisely alike to what a real driver will be experiencing.

To start with, real world have parameters such as weight, mass, friction, and etc. These parameters are what we call physics. When we have physics, we have constraints and boundaries. Understanding the basic principles of physics is compulsory to become successful as a sim racer and real world racer. Try asking any real world driver on this subject if you think my credibility is a suspect.

Need for Speed on the other hand has a set of basic code with no real world parameters as an input, hence the lack of realism. When I talk about realism, to make it simple, a 2kg car with a speed of 300km/h is physically impossible to take a 90 degree 7.5 meter wide road bend at almost full speed. Let's say if it can, will the tyres in the game take the load without bursting? Yes it will since it has no character of a real tyre compound. The developer of NFS intentionally did so since it’s not commercially viable to do sim titles as it’s hard to pick up by the masses. We can’t compare NFS or Grid to Simulators since the three are in a different territory to begin with. NFS is for fun, you see the turn and you turn. There is no thinking or commitments attached to it. Real life techniques is inapplicable to some extent.

Look around you, simulators nowadays have become so sophisticated that its capability of rendering multiple complex mathematical formulas is being utilized all over by racing teams. Yes, including that of Mclaren and Ferrari if you wondered. For your information before Hamilton first GP experience, Ron Dennis asked him to sit hour’s time in a simulator to get accustomed to the feel of F1 car. Yup, the only thing that was missing is the g-force. But looking at it, with the test ban at least the driver has miles under his belt.

Simulator in my opinion is going to change the racing world forever as more teams currently have the financial capacity to adopt its usage. Not to mention that you can test a talent for reduced cost now.

Ah, I’ve got to touch a bit on issue of old habits die hard. I did mention about understanding physics just now, people just think they know real car driving techniques because they give the impression like they are the real heroes on typical Malaysian streets. If you have the time, go check, it will be to your surprise, many of these self proclaim real street racer have no clues as to what constitutes proper driving techniques let alone physics. Simulators will surprise them of how wrong they actually are in driving principles and techniques.

MSR is for the hardcore racing fan who understands real world racing. Because participating in a real world racing requires you to have the financial capacity and time. So simulator falls as the better substitutes for people seeking real world experience at their convenience. MSR provides for that. So if you think you are one of us please have a visit or try simming to see whether you are one of us, the sim junkies.


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5 – Does the league have any rules regarding driving? And what happen if someone broke the rules? Do you have marshalls to oversee all these?


We have developed specific set of rules and regulations for members and marshals to refer to. The rules are there not to hinder anyone from having fun, its existence is to ensure the objective of MSR is being met at the end of the day. We want participating simracers to have fun while learning the real world etiquettes. This, we believe will make MSRians a better driver in the league and in the real world.

Ryugan is our chief marshal, a really serious bloke when it comes to marshalling though. But he is as sweet as a candy in real life. I think maranello can attest to that. Besides ryugan, we have many working with him to oversee the rules and regulations meted out are being carried.

When someone broke the rules, a penalty is imposed just like real world. But most of the time MSRians are happy to accept whatever penalties coming since the spirit of fairness is already there. So it’s hardly any issues imposing penalties. The MSRians are soft and kind people. But sometimes they rammed each other’s butt in the race. But all is well after the race. We will keep learning to produce best rules and regulations and we are hopeful that the MSRians continues to keep learning as well.


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Maybe I can keep this writing for our forum and web.

Oh I would like to hear what the juniors have to say as well. You can have your say. Maybe a fresh perspective is good as well. The final cut will be yours anyway linkin.

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post Dec 31 2008, 01:50 AM

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FSone2007 interaction with realfeel is quite flawed. WHile MMG and CTDP are flawless in this department.

IMO I like the MMG and CTDP by far. As for sounds, I can't remember what FSone2007 sounds like, but MMG sounds is great while CTDP has the worse sounds among the three.

Since we have been with FSone2006, I tought we should shift elsewhere. CTDP is a great promise. There will be many developments further ahead out of CTDP mod.

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post Dec 31 2008, 08:15 PM

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QUOTE(linkinstreet @ Dec 31 2008, 08:13 AM)
Too much blur IMO
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http://www.darrenheath.com/blogs.htm?gpid=182&year=2008

KOnonya nak tiru darren heath. Dia ni shots lagi blur giler.. brows.gif

http://www.darrenheath.com/prints.htm

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post Dec 31 2008, 09:06 PM

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QUOTE(antonio @ Dec 31 2008, 08:39 PM)
Dah agak dah...wakakkaka.... laugh.gif

weh...marilah...lepak Williams, cite pasal taktik Eastern Creek nie.... rclxm9.gif
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QUOTE(linkinstreet @ Dec 31 2008, 08:41 PM)
Mana interview aku nie? sad.gif
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Takper, nanti aku jawabkan la klu takde org nak jawab.
PCcrazy
post Jan 1 2009, 03:44 AM

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Happy New Year To MSR and the members
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post Jan 2 2009, 08:39 PM

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QUOTE(antonio @ Jan 2 2009, 08:14 PM)
user posted image malam nie lepak....huhuhuhuh tongue.gif
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Jom meh ke Bangi. thumbup.gif
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post Jan 2 2009, 08:44 PM

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QUOTE(maranello55 @ Jan 2 2009, 08:42 PM)
dah power bulih le lepak  sweat.gif
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Ko pun apa kurangnyer, jomla ke Bangi lepak. Ko bagitau aku taktik drive dlm rfactor bagi tips soposen dua ker... notworthy.gif
PCcrazy
post Jan 4 2009, 02:01 AM

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QUOTE(ryugan @ Jan 4 2009, 01:54 AM)
i run P.A system services, for any event, wedding, karaoke set, exhibition, small2 only now invest on multimedia/video/photo to extend my side income business. tongue.gif
i got one SLR camera before but fully manual one. Ricoh KR 10. 80's cam. til it jam when i was doing my thesis fieldwork sweat.gif
no repair til today.

i'm sorry my post go way out offff topic.

btw .penalty/and warning...this morning.done my homework hehe.
beware
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Good we could become associates nod.gif
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post Jan 4 2009, 03:16 AM

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QUOTE(zuljag @ Jan 4 2009, 03:10 AM)
f1 cdtp 2006 ke korang main?
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http://forum.malaysiansimracers.com/index.php?showtopic=47
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post Jan 4 2009, 04:33 PM

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Pccrazy - cut track at last corner when battle with dzariq


I would like a clarification chief.

in FIA regulations as meted out can't remember where but always being mentioned all around.

When you cut a chicane and gain an advantage penalty is given.

During the time dzariq and I were battling, he didn't make a move or attempt on me at the last chicane heading down the straight. So I didn't gain an advantage and the time is stagnant so therefore it's more like I'm off the track because off mistake.

Unless if he is side by side, or attempting a move that makes me do this mistakes, I'll have to give the position back.

Your say chief marshal. This needs to be clarified because it will be different judgment on my account. nod.gif



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post Jan 4 2009, 04:42 PM

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QUOTE(ryugan @ Jan 4 2009, 04:36 PM)
dont worry i'm not finalize yet.just some complain i got.gets my attention.
based on replays.

there's two -three warning before we go to penalty.if the driver still did the same thing
no qualy maybe, start at the pit lane maybe, start from the back, maybe drop 1-2 position from standings nod.gif
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ok chief. Good job anyway.
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post Jan 4 2009, 05:54 PM

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QUOTE(antonio @ Jan 4 2009, 05:11 PM)
IMHO the 'Warning' status shouldn't be implied in the rulebook as I can't see any significant towards 'collecting' 2 or 3 Warnings then only to Penalty.

It should be stated as an offense or straight away 'guilty' as charged, however minimal punishment can be considered towards the tiny offenses made, such as a minus 0.5sec to 3 seconds off the Qualifying time...Or starting from the Pitlane for the next race session BUT the drivers must attend the Qualifying session.

Points deductions can also be implemented towards back-to-back incidents towards the offender that may cost other drivers their race and serious offenders such as endangering other drivers with his maneuvers should be imposed a non-championship point race with the offender starting from the Pitlane.

Points deduction should also come after 3 times of missing race sessions to allow other drivers to catch up and the driver which didnt attend the race, should be penalized for doing so. Since we can't enforce a fining system towards the act, we can however cut the points accumulated by a driver who have missed a race and the implication from that, we should see a more competitive Championship Table....So if a MSR'ian wants to be Champion for any particular season, he should attend the race and not just wins like 5 races and starts to skip other races in the calendar.

But i understand we as human beings can control the heart beat and the rain, so if any death-related or floods occurrence to a MSR'ian, he will be Allowed to skip the race without any points deduction or penalty given. If work related, I'm sorry to say, I cant agree and if I were to missed the race due to work cases, then I would consent my Championship Points to be deducted.
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Anton, we already have a set of system similar to the current F1 season. Penalty imposed is always a duty of marshalling team. It's their discretion. Because marshalling is a very heavy duty job I tell you, we give free excercise to do according to what they think is right. In my case it's only a clarification not an appeal. Whatever chief marshal at the end of the day say I have no objection.

As for rules such as missing race, we have already discuss that till the cows come home. I don't think I wanted to go into that back.
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post Jan 4 2009, 07:18 PM

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QUOTE(evoHahn @ Jan 4 2009, 06:55 PM)
Okay, let me put this straight :

race marshal recommends mode of punishment ---> admins decides. This is done thru PM. ---> admins announce the penalty

Any clarification also thru PM.

Is in the rules btw.
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Ok dokie bro smile.gif
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post Jan 5 2009, 12:02 AM

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QUOTE(linkinstreet @ Jan 4 2009, 11:21 PM)
2 kali kena langgar... haiyaaa
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post Jan 5 2009, 01:30 AM

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QUOTE(maranello55 @ Jan 5 2009, 12:23 AM)
Great and congrats for finishing. U'll get the feel of it already i see. hehe...its addictive u know.

Bro azrink...sabar bro.

As for the race, Ryugan and PC were much faster than me...but they gave me way lots of time. (Kasik chan). Congrats all for racing today and thanks Boss for watching.
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Nope much faster, I've seen our laptimes they are quite similar. Man of the race is Maranello no doubt.

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Memungut ayam mati
Bila aku nak dapat guna ayat ni

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post Jan 5 2009, 01:47 AM

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First of all, the sprint race and feature race is an eventful race.

Sprint race I have to say the decider is my start. I manage to pip mara and that was it. I know here to overtake is almost impossible if you have almost similar paces.

As for feature, I make a mistake thinking I can take the first turn on the inside and overtake RonMD. My calculation was wrong and as a result it ended up with my front diffuse damage. After that it was a damage limitation race. The fight with pitt was intense.

Wanted to say sorry to broRon and linkin for causing a bit of mess. Donington penalty is up for me. I hope marshal is a bit kind maybe give me 10 places back would be good enough. Hahahah. But I don't wish to hope more, our chief is strict about rules like these.

Now as for the championship, 3rd places seems like far away. Hisham is crazy consistent. He manage to pip dzariq for 3rd position in the championship. The fight continues who will get the 3rd place in the championship.


Added on January 5, 2009, 2:15 am
QUOTE(antonio @ Jan 4 2009, 08:49 PM)
A newcomer 'Warning' i think should be impose of up to 3-5 participated races, and after that, straight away Penalty has to be apply...As the problem of baby-sitting a newcomer really is a burden to both veteran and seasoned driver as well... I understand we all want to race, but come to think of it, I to want to finish a race as cleanly as possible without any mishaps, although I understand the risk involved when running with an inexperience drivers....A fast and quick driver on practice sessions/Qualifying isn't enough and to make matters worst these 'inexperience' drivers sometimes maybe quick which lead them being in the middle of the pack...

I'm not saying that middle runners are 'inexperience' drivers of some sort, the whole of my worries lay on "a" new members which sometimes are quick on a track he drives alone, but in full race grid, he/she maybe just a ticking time bomb....
I'm glad to hear that... thumbup.gif
I understand the difficulties for the admins to make the arrangements of the grid during race day and I never once felt that for Mara it is an easy job neither applying a penalty before the feature race...
I know Marshaling duties isnt a walk in the park BUT as I would like to stress out that "Warning" status shouldnt be in the rulebook...Marshall should be fine of warning a new driver if he finds that the new driver is reckless and an irressponsible sim racer...the warning even can be applied to seasoned drivers but Warning is just a warning, meaning it wont effect any of the drivers current state...

But, when a driver has gone to far, such as when Schumacher spun on the 2 last corner at Monaco, why was he given a penalty then? There is no FIA law that states such act should be punished and it would be mind-boggling to have such rules whereby if you spun at the 2nd last corner of a track, you are forced to start from the pitlane...right? Why didn't he just receive a warning then, for his actions....

So to me, the Marshaling team, "CAN" or "Should" exercise the "Penalty" regardless of new/seasoned driver, if he thinks the party has done something wrong which might smear the sporting image thumbup.gif
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Now that I have time to reply,

A warning in this league is actually considered that offenses aren't made. But you are being notice in the radar. Yes sometimes if you track the record, we are not quite consistent with the penalty, because chief marshal always changed. So we have different school of thoughts. I will deal with a different method to ryugan. But as for the job I think ryugan does it better to be honest. Since watching replay looking at fault is quite a daunting task. And furthermore they did it out of their free time and for free money.

As for that reason, we have decided that discretion will be applied. Since specific rulebook will take way too much time and effort. Antonio btw, next season we will have full media coverage of races since CTDP is tidak haram. Website and press con will be arrange. Our league will be colourful again.

We welcome opinion and we will clarify why we do certain things. Members are encourage to question, please dont be afraid and keep it in your chest.

If we have the capacities to improve and person to do things, we will by all means will do it. We want to see this league expand. If it can go commercial we will go commercial.

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post Jan 5 2009, 02:55 AM

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QUOTE(antonio @ Jan 5 2009, 02:45 AM)
Dey pi tido lar.... tongue.gif

Seriously, I still dun understand why is CDTP is tak haram n the mod we are running now is?? Both are FIA events which IIRC stated;

FIA,F1,Formula 1 (and its translation) are the all reserve and prohibited to use by any party without a written permission and clause acceptance by the FIA"

so how come FIA GT mod is haram?? tongue.gif
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post Jan 5 2009, 03:19 AM

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QUOTE(maranello55 @ Jan 5 2009, 03:08 AM)
LOL pc...hang tak habaq sama depa ka?
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Tak habaq, depa tak tanye. Watch replay F1 lama lama dulu mara. Fuh layan gak kita punya battle. Kat spa, brazil, nuerb, byk lagi. pergh

QUOTE(zuljag @ Jan 5 2009, 03:12 AM)
aku pun nak tahu
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U got PM
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post Jan 5 2009, 04:10 AM

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QUOTE(maranello55 @ Jan 5 2009, 03:48 AM)
No doubt. Those were the times (although i lost all the battle) when i was at the peak....now old d. wink.gif

For new members, heres how our f1 season (season 4) went


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Eh I thought not all la, u win at nurb, and most of the races in the early season.

Great season I have to say. Looking forward to the next F1 season where I hope u will be there to participate.

Great vid, really top class material. Miss your vids mara.

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post Jan 5 2009, 08:41 PM

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QUOTE(linkinstreet @ Jan 5 2009, 08:35 PM)
1 jam dia = 5 jam fridge D:
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Fuh yerke, nama pun rich man toys. The only reason why PS3 is quite tempting is because of only two games for me. GT5 and PRoEvo. Other games perhaps I'm not interested at all.

We will discuss on tracks selection for next season. We don't fight to achieve our objective but through mature reasoning and argument. That is how we should behave as a human being as GOD tells us. biggrin.gif

Mara ko punyer vid memang mengancam, siap effect kereta hilang lagi. Storyline and flow (most important part for me) plg superb.


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