It's like a taste of new territory, you don't want to snap out of it. <---- Intellectual version

It's like getting a new girlfriend, you wish you never knew the old one. <------ hamsap version

I think we need the elimination method. We never know the real reason. Maybe it's affecting in some way.

1. We eliminate the skins.
2. We eliminate the laggers....

Afterall this is only a prelim, if the skin is found to have no effect, we will allow the usage of skins.

This post has been edited by PCcrazy: Nov 3 2008, 12:33 AM

As I've mentioned, at this point this is the only thing that we could see. We will use the eliminate factor method in determining the problem.

It's a temporary action. I hope everyone can abide by it. It will be very helpful.

We never know, rfactor has different LOD for offline and online which could cause the problem.

hey, why did u run to GG!!

Jokes aside,

We will reschedule a test session without skin and with skin.

We will announce it, so keep updated.


I'm hopeful for streamyx to be the problem.

But streaymx has so far very kind to me, I guess I'm lucky.


Mara:
Bro Yazid has foreseen this I guess mara. Hence the order for approval first. I hope from now on, we could be more submissive can we?

This post has been edited by PCcrazy: Nov 3 2008, 12:47 AM

Online and offline LOD is different plus the connection. I'm not a pro at this. But keep your graphics to one step down. Plug your steering and Pray.

Mara, I would like an opinion against this rule. I think it is too harsh for the drivers to avoid maneuvering into the white lines particularly when three cars are fighting the 1st turn. In any race that I have witness so far they don't have this rule because it narrows the track coming into first turn. IMO a driver knows it instinctively in their action not to go too close to the pit wall just to provide some small space just about enough for driver out of the pit. The onus is on the pit stopper, It's their full duty to watch out for incoming traffics not the otherwise IMO. (Remember Massa - Bourdais? It's always the pit stopper who will answer to a penalty if something goes wrong.)

If you recall Manfield, I never call or raise any issues as to the out of pit sequence.

Anyway, I applaud the move to preemptive any accident which might happen. But I believe, this has in a way introduce limitation for a good scrap into 1st corner.

It's just a note, point for discussion among members. As for me, the concept of Right of Way is quite the other way here.

Tq, for taking note. All the members are welcome to joint in and have their point of view.

Oh yes to the batcave.

Concept of Right of Way must be understood by all sim racers at heart. I don't worry much about hardcore junkies. But I'm a bit skeptical to those I have no experience in racing against with.

They called the speed difference a shockwave phenomena in an engineering terms.

Mara, we are the admins of the opposite, you know very well the situation to pre-empt it and I know very well the situation to just pre-warn it. Both way, your way is obviously the best in terms of safety but at the consequences of limiting action. Well I understand very well that you can't have both working. There has to be a compromise. Which sides are you? Dark side or the Angel side?

On a note, I'm on a Dark Side....... Because the reality don't give chance to stopping objects.

Oh to the batcave.

[cool.gifWHAT YOU NEED TO JOIN MSR LEAGUE

1. rFactor game.
2. Steering wheel (Logitech MOMO, Logitech G25 etc etc).

HOW TO JOIN MSR LEAGUE

1. Buy rFactor game from : www.rfactor.net . The current price of the game is USD 39.90.
2. Read the current season rules at the current season thread.
3. Download the necessary mod and track files. The files can be downloaded from www.rfactorcentral.com. Registration (free) is required to download the files. Links to the files also available from www.malaysiansimracer.com and at the current season thread in this forum.
4. Select your car and send a pm to the league administrators.
5. The admin will then pm you the server name and password.
6. Now you are set to go smile.gif flex.gif flex.gif

I think the FIA rules says the otherwise my friend.

I don't think that the car coming out would have the right of way, it should be the other way. The rules are similar in the pits like when you have to wait for car to pass you even though lolipop man has released you. Otherwise you will get a penalty.

Unless you are sure that you are completely in front in terms of speed difference.

The FIA in its sporting regulation in points 31.3 mentioned about warning the car exiting the pitlane via blue flag or a flashing blue flag, and there is no where mention that the car passing the main straight has to be warned or to provide or to drive with cautions. Based on this, and my sim racing experience and my international debut in FSR, Right of Way is established so that a rejoining cars will have less Right of Way than the racing cars. It's very dangerous for rejoining cars to have full right of way.

Oh that Massa- Bourdois- It's Bourdais that was penalized if you recall the event because he is coming out from the pits.

This post has been edited by PCcrazy: Nov 8 2008, 09:34 PM

To me, it's the term speed difference that decides who have the ROW. Charlie Whiting hasn't been a driver before, so I don't really agree with what he says. It can be at some track, the leaving car might have the ROW depending on track configurations.

But on this track, like Paul Ricard and Manfield, the leaving car had to backed off. While in Monaco for example as the speed difference is almost the same, whoever had his nose in front has the ROW.

In real world, if you have great speed differences coming out from pit, no drivers dare not to look when getting out. Because someone's life might be at stake. Let's just assume that way in our race.

The concept of joining track and all that is almost similar like the concept of overtaking.


Charlie can't say that cars leaving the pit can have 100% right of Way, it will get easily misinterpreted. If that happens, the blue flag should be put outside on a track where there is great difference in speed. Because IIRC, there is no rule that prevent racing cars from crossing the white lines. On the contrary the car leaving pits is not allowed to cross the white line.

This post has been edited by PCcrazy: Nov 8 2008, 09:50 PM

So it does have a special reference to pit exit layout and particularly speed differences.

My point is that, we are penalizing the track runners to cater for the pit stoppers. Which is not fair. There has to be speed difference rules and who has his nose in front IMO has the ROW.





Testing rft 2008.. A special test for next season is underway. It;s undecided yet. We will have a really long debates and discussions for next season.

This post has been edited by PCcrazy: Nov 9 2008, 05:32 AM

I know that some of us may not agree, we will have different school of thought. Im aware of the space of the pit exit is very small. I'm aware that cars coming out from the pit had to stop. As I've mentioned, it's a courtesy for racers on track and courtesy for drivers coming outto watch each other. Both have radars. There shouldn't be rules for it in the first place. Should you as the racers detect the presence of a pit stoppers, on a good courtesy don't cross the white lines. And for pit stoppers, on a good courtesy just use the red kerb and a bit of blue strip on that pit exit just to make your opponent aware if you really really wanted to go out asap.

Concept dia sama mcm overtaking azrink, if I shut the door on the inside, you have to give me room walaupun slow macam mana pun.

Speaking of courtesy, do that everytime, there will be no problem. No need rules. We need rules because some of us chose to be ignorant which sometimes to be honest it makes my blood boils.

Our objective written in our manifesto specifically mentioned, I can't remember in which article says:

To promote and educate real racing etiquette among members. It says something similar to that. If we want to achieve the Goal, then we will have to work towards that.

This post has been edited by PCcrazy: Nov 9 2008, 01:41 PM

GG garang? Bukan manja ker?

I was trapped, the pit crew showed up very late. It showed up besides me. Tried to reverse but Soze was at the back. Did delayed him for a while though. So no reverse allowed as per normal rules, Park the car, and head for the exit.

Tremendously frustrating. I should dive very very slow since my pit box is no 1. The line and the box is very close hence I missed my pitbox.

Whut to do, things happen. My fault. Im sorry for delaying you anyway.

Sprint Race Paul Ricard

Pictures:


This post has been edited by PCcrazy: Nov 10 2008, 06:30 PM

PC...superb pics. U see some photography knowledge can change the way u take screenshots aint it? Hhehe

Keep it coming bro!!

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Added on November 10, 2008, 6:00 pmGG is my Man of the race...Bonn comes close in second for his podium.

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Mara, yours is far better than what I can reap. It's a just fun thing I do when I have free time. I'm not good at arts. But I know arts when I see one. But just can't replicate it.

Bukan lens, tapi graphics card canon 1d mak 3

Ni lagi satu screenshot Azrink n Ferum kot



MSR flickr

http://www.flickr.com/photos/29100956@N08/

This post has been edited by PCcrazy: Nov 11 2008, 03:02 AM

He did PMed me to.

told him the same too.

He is a Champion, last year.

This post has been edited by PCcrazy: Nov 11 2008, 10:27 AM