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davidmak
post Mar 13 2009, 10:23 PM

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Guys!

Happy to say that I have joined you guys as an Android! I've got the black colored one and yes, it has the creaks. But no worries because I've found some solutions which I am going to try in the next few days.

Mine came by default RC30 by JF. So I guess its already rooted in advanced? If this is the case, can I update straight to JF1.42 RC33 without downgrading or I should follow the standard procedures of downgrading.

Anyway I'm so glad! rclxm9.gif
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post Mar 13 2009, 10:47 PM

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QUOTE(grazy @ Mar 13 2009, 10:40 PM)
Ya-rei...ya-rei!! Welcome aboard Androidian.

If you already got the JF rom, then pretty sure you have the root access. Try download Terminal Emulator from the Market and type SU , see u will get "#" or not ?!

If got (ur G1 rooted), then u maybe can get this apps and upgrade to JF1.42 RC33. Be reminded that this still in beta ya ^^;
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YES! It shows '#'. So this confirms that I have root access. Anyway I want to update the Radio ROM. What are the procedures? Is it the same as updating the main ROM?
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post Mar 13 2009, 10:51 PM

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QUOTE(grazy @ Mar 13 2009, 10:48 PM)
Yep!! ^^
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Anyway I am not sure why JFUpdater keeps redownloading once it has reach 100%. I am trying to download this file manually. I'm currently at HERE and I'm seeing 2 links. One which is the .zip file (RC33) and the other is .tar.gz. Which one should I download?
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post Mar 14 2009, 09:46 AM

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QUOTE(lek_e30 @ Mar 14 2009, 09:35 AM)
dizzing seing those rooted user discussion doh.gif doh.gif
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Actually the procedures isn't that complicated. It is something like flashing a HTC Diamond (the HardSPL part) and flashing the Samsung P2 PMP. I especially like the way of upgrading ROMs simply by uploading it to the microSD card and follow a sequence of button presses unlike using a utility to download and then clicking on a batch files and wait for it to upload before going through some weird screen flashes.

By the way, I am not quite happy with the Radio performance. On my previous HTC Diamond I get pretty good Edge (Maxis) coverage even indoor. With the G1, it sometimes looses connection and go into a search mode. Outside is slightly better but its not full bars all the way. Maybe the Radio ROM needs updating?
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post Mar 14 2009, 03:02 PM

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QUOTE(grazy @ Mar 14 2009, 02:32 PM)
Updating the firmware is ABC, but jailbreaking G1 is abit technical! If the testkey installed wrongly or downloaded a corrupted testkey and you will have retarded Android. Just make sure each of the file downloaded correctly and your SDcard is in Fat32.

I'm also having this lost connection issue these two days. Will have sudden drop of signals from full bar to 1 or 2 bar only.
Hopefully this is due to Maxis tuning their Edge/3g network to cater the upcoming Iphone package lah ^^;
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Yeah hopefully. But on my SE C905, connection is very consistent and always full bar (EDGE). So I am suspecting the Radio ROM is not that good. Even WIFI sensitivity isn't spectacular. The reason I say this is that the HTC Dream/G1's hardware is very similar to the HTC Raphael, Touch Diamond and Pro. The Touch Diamond's radio performance sucks too during its introduction but later improved with newer Radio ROM updates. Also these devices have been installed with Android OS with limited success. So I'm sure this gives us a good correlation between G1 and the rest.

There are reports from xda-developers that a user have flashed in Radio ROM from HTC Raphael and experienced improved performance like the one we're having problem. But I am reluctant to do this since it involves a lot of file replacement. Hopefully someone will share the files (already patched).
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post Mar 14 2009, 03:28 PM

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QUOTE(grazy @ Mar 14 2009, 03:15 PM)
Ha..ha... think this is what we called hybrido heh!! ^^ Wonder the Radio rom is reversible or not?!
It has been reported that if the Radio rom not been updated to the latest (1.22.14.11), it will affect update from T-mobile/Google in future.

I don't dare to touch the Radio. Maybe we just have to wait for new update for this blush.gif
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Agreed, I guess we just leave it that way. Anyway for rooted users, we rely on JesusFreke liao so we'll be expecting his updates. Problem is it may take awhile before it is released AND Cupcake is very very tempting. So I guess we need to de-root? If Cupcake comes with a new Radio ROM, I'm gonna ripped that portion out.
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post Mar 15 2009, 10:56 PM

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QUOTE(grazy @ Mar 15 2009, 05:24 PM)
Any of you having GPS (with 'Wireless network' and 'GPS' on) accuracy problem on G1 google Maps?  ohmy.gif
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Well, I have problems with Google Maps sometimes cannot resolve my location when I only enable GSM Triangulation. GPS is spot on so far. Ooh, I do have a feeling that if you enable both together will cause the Google Map to take location from 'Wireless Network' instead from GPS. Thats because when GPS is activated, it requires some time before it can detect the satelites. As a result during this time, the GPS location will not be available causing Google Maps to detect location from 'Wireless Network'.
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post Mar 16 2009, 09:05 AM

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QUOTE(grazy @ Mar 16 2009, 06:24 AM)

Added on March 16, 2009, 6:57 amHeh!! Any of you got T-mobile simcard?
Can try putting it in ur G1 and see whether can access to the paid apps or not?? ^^j
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Its a confirm that the availability of paid apps is derived from the origin of SIM card. I read that in the android community forum. Meaning to say, the information from the SIM card will be used in Market Place.

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post Mar 16 2009, 09:41 AM

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QUOTE(lek_e30 @ Mar 16 2009, 09:31 AM)
is it mean that when gps on, my location will be accurate??

mine was never accurate.... sweat.gif  sweat.gif
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Well depending on the GPS receiver reception quality/strength, the accuracy can be few meters to a few hundred meters. Try disabling 'Wireless Network' locator and only enable GPS. It'll take awhile before it lock onto some satellites. I understand that the Qualcomm processor with integrated GPS receiver (same as most HTC devices) isn't the best available but it shouldn't be too bad.

If things are still inaccurate, try moving in a car once you get GPS connected. If still inaccurate there are only 2 explanations:

1. The integrated GPS is really lousy.
2. Future Radio ROM plus ROM updates could improve its performance (meaning to say current revision isn't mature).
3. Google Map's coverage of Malaysia isn't accurate.

You can verify by putting the G1 next to a standalone GPS receiver. Get the coordinates of present location from both units and compare them. If both are almost the same but the standalone GPS's accuracy is spot on and the G1 isn't, then we know the map is at fault. If G1's coordinate is far from the standalone GPS's coordinates, we know something is wrong. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(lek_e30 @ Mar 16 2009, 09:44 AM)
ok, i will try to disabling wireless network first...

how abt urs?? is it accurate??

i remember u use X1 b4 rite?
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Nope, I didn't use X1 before but I do own a Touch Diamond for some time. But both devices uses the same chipset from Qualcomm 7xxx 528MHz (X1 has 288MB while Touch Diamond only had 192MB of RAM).

Speaking of RAM, is there any indication of how much Android uses from time to time? I only see indications of how much ROM storage is available. But I do know that you can have 10+ apps running in the background without any problem which is comforting to know.
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post Mar 16 2009, 11:26 AM

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QUOTE(grazy @ Mar 16 2009, 10:32 AM)
Think there are few apps in the Market that can monitor the Free RAM available for linux (some for the physical RAM) and also their status of running in the background.

My preference are:

-Advanced task manager (root) - paid apps, can kill running apps.
-Dxtop+Memory widget - paid apps, got second tab on home screen showing apps/services running at the background, but can't end them.
-System monitor - free, general monitoring
-MemoryUp - paid apps, working but itself taking up more memory to run it, not really recommend it, but the crxcked ver is everywhere:hehe:

Don't know this answer ur Q or not?!  sweat.gif
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Yeah, just that these are paid apps. The System Monitor does not indicates on the RAM but rather ROM storage that the program use. However, there's one section that says 96MB is available but usage is already 70%, not much leeway. What about you guys? What are you remaining RAM levels?
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post Mar 16 2009, 04:50 PM

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QUOTE(lek_e30 @ Mar 16 2009, 11:43 AM)
ops maybe i mistakenly abt someone... but ur name rings a bell....just cant recall from which thread..
yo bro!! using G1 also now huh brows.gif welcome to da family..

have u done the initial settings i.e apn...internet settings?
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Remember C905 thread where I was given a HOLIDAY? Kekeke! (No pun intended)

QUOTE(grazy @ Mar 16 2009, 12:03 PM)
Sorry, bit confused here! ^^;
Are you looking at how much memory available(free)? Or want to know how much each apps is taking?
I got those 3 paid apps. If you want to try out, pm me ur gmail ya. cool2.gif
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I'm actually looking for the memory (RAM) available after all the programs have been started. This isn't the same as how much each application takes from the ROM. In Windows Mobile term, I want to know the Program Memory as opposed to Program Storage. We already know that the HTC Dream has 192MB of RAM. I would like to know how much is available after a fresh boot and after all the applications have been started.

I'll PM you. tongue.gif



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post Mar 17 2009, 08:45 AM

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Guys, I have one question.

Remember the Market Place where we can do a search on applications listed over there? All searches will be archived on a history. So in future when you do a search again, it'll actually show a long list of the history of searches made. Any idea how to purge this list?
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post Mar 17 2009, 11:11 AM

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QUOTE(grazy @ Mar 17 2009, 10:50 AM)
Ho..ho...if memory serves me right, think the Market info is attached to your gmail account. So as long as u use that particular account, the market will remember you. And the moment we can get rid of the market search history yet.

So my best experimental suggestions are, mind you, quite intrusive heh ^^)

1) Do a factory reset or
2) Do a wipe in recovery mode
3) Change to another gmail account ^^;
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Guess I'm fine with it since we have not way to clear it. Its just a little distracting when the list goes very long. Not that it'll eat up a lot of space anyway. biggrin.gif
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post Mar 17 2009, 01:23 PM

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QUOTE(grazy @ Mar 17 2009, 11:19 AM)
Just a friendly reminder! The search history will not take up much space, but the Market cache will hor. ^^
As usual, nothing you could do, it will only release/delete the cache when the "low space" indication shows up.

Hopefully next update it will be fixed.
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Yeah, I read about that too. So far my Market Place's cache is around 2MB. Still got 60MB+ remaining for applications. Quite a lot considering each app uses a couple of kilobytes with the exception of games where it may go up to few MBs. Hopefully the upcoming update will include ability to clear caches and ability to format SD card to EXT2 filesystem and then install app on it.

I wonder if there's an application that is similar to CCleaner where it can purge all caches (except the ones storing login information) with a single click.
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post Mar 17 2009, 02:14 PM

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QUOTE(lek_e30 @ Mar 17 2009, 02:10 PM)
maxis really make wanna say.... JIBET!!!!!!!!  mad.gif  vmad.gif
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Just switched to EDGE network and forget about 3G hehehehe... very strong signal here. Even with 3G speeds ain't that much of a difference anyway. nod.gif

I do experienced a time where network data access cannot connect at all until I reboot. WIFI has been spot on so far. Really love it! I downloaded a 40MB file and its really quick when compared to my previous Touch Diamond.
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QUOTE(liquid_ooze @ Mar 17 2009, 03:18 PM)
Bro davidmak, I'm having the creaks issue too with my black G1 sad.gif

Mind to share with us the solution that you were mentioning? notworthy.gif
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I use a pair of sharp scissors to cut out a very tiny piece of cellophane tape. Then use the tweezers to place it on the area which emits the creak. There's a small bump above the end key and it functions to prevent the LCD display from slamming too hard onto the body.

The better long term solution is to use a piece of felt cloth or some damping material (not too thick). Alternatively you can use mini 'feet' and stick them directly beneath the LCD display to keep it leveled and prevent it from moving. If it is not moving and supported, it will not grind against the bump and emit creaks.
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post Mar 17 2009, 10:07 PM

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QUOTE(lek_e30 @ Mar 17 2009, 05:23 PM)
i also have that experience when like data access comes to a dead end  doh.gif  doh.gif

mind to share wat file do u d/led?? and recommendation to d/l movie or series??
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Just some installation files which is around 6MB. It took only 2 minutes to complete which is quite good for a PDA phone. During my time with the Touch Diamond, it was really slow even though the rest of my PC was idle and the internet connection was fast.

QUOTE(grazy @ Mar 17 2009, 07:08 PM)
Think the Mancis 3G speed is catching up ^^

Can tether smoothly.

Just for leisure reading:

user posted image

Research in Motion=BlackBerry, OS X=iPhone, Symbian=Nokia, and Linux=Google Android  biggrin.gif
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Looks like Symbian (as with most news site reporting) is loosing market share and a lot of new players are catching up. I think Mac OS X Touch and Linux definitely have a good chance in growth.
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post Mar 17 2009, 10:49 PM

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Guys!

I discover something new. Well not entirely new. But who has customize Caller Picture on their contacts? I realize I can't be taking everyone's photo and include it here. So I thought about using Xbox Live Avatar pictures. Turns out it matches Android so much! Hehehehe!
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post Mar 18 2009, 07:42 AM

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QUOTE(lek_e30 @ Mar 17 2009, 11:25 PM)
WOW saved hell lotsa time man... anyway i havent really utilise this section yet  doh.gif  doh.gif  maybe too much other thing for me to explore  whistling.gif
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Same here, I haven't really tweak the OS much yet (if any) and I'm trying to find a way for the pictures to stick in my Gmail account. I can add them on Gmail but they won't show. However, when I sync my contacts to the G1 the pictures show in my G1 contacts. Just not on Gmail contacts. Wonder why...

I tried GPS yesterday and I find it to be moderately quick in catching positioning satellites. If I enable Data Access, it'll be quicker. Probably A-GPS is working behind the scene (by downloading satellite data off the net). Accuracy was initially at 24m but soon reception became stronger and accuracy was improved to 8m which was quite ok. However, Google Maps sucks because the Directions was real messy.

Wonder when companies like Garmin will unveil their products on Android.

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