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nikolo98
post Oct 30 2008, 12:14 PM

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Lol. No offence to anyone when I say this so please don't mind me. I think we're taking this whole idea of controlling the items to absolute critical degree.

Here's my two cents about "robbers" using airsoft to rob say...... banks.

You have to be that stupid of a robber to take your asop and try to rob the bank in broad daylight because your gun will never stand up to a real gun carried by the responding police team. You can threaten all you want with the hostages but when the police find out that they are toys.... let's just say you're screwed. (Notice bank robbers these days prefer to rob banks at night?? much less complications because there isn't anyone to deal with.....)

You have to understand that robbing a bank or a jewelry store isn't something simple as brandishing weapons and walking into the joint. It also involves logistics in getting out fast enough (so you don't get caught), dispersing/laundering the money/jewelry and remove traceability (so you don't get caught) and etc (so you don't get caught). The robbers that get away these days are truly the ingenious ones! Like that one time the maybank kena rob via the underground tunnel dug into the vault.

Now if you think deeper, crimes that involve a substantial amount of money are masterminded by organized crime rings and these folks have real weapons. Why'd they want asop? Keep operating costs down?

So with those out of the way, asop can be misused by the smaller clowns for muggings and stuff. But if that's the case, why would they resort to asop guns (which cost considerably more than your steering lock/crowbar/steel pipe/knife)? To mug someone you don't point a gun at them and yell "GIMME ALL YOUR MONEY!" from afar. Instead you need to sneak up behind them, catch them off-guard and mug them. In this case, a gun is overkill for the job even if its asop. A little pen-knife (which is WAY EASIER to conceal) is more than enough to scare the daylights out of the victim.

How about the joe that tries to rob a restaurant/7-11 with asop? They all have CCTVs and that's how the police get their faces and nail them in the end. So regardless of what they use, if they intended to rob a place, any countertop item can be used as a life threatening weapon. Even your kitchen knife is intimidating enough compared to asop. Now here's an interesting scenario for you to ponder about... let's say 7-11 gets robbed by an asop brandisher, and for some reason, the fella behind the counter thinks "I'm not afraid to fight back".... what do you think will happen the moment the 7-11 employee finds out that its an asop? the robber better run for his life coz he's got a really pissed employee about to take the robber's head off with the cash register.

One last thought. Detroit in Michigan is one of the world's cities with the HIGHEST crimerates. Crimes committed using asop is practically unheard of. Why is that so?

Bro warhawk, I agree with you that for our society to remain safe it is better to bear some of that burden on our own shoulders and not only rely solely on the authorities. I think that your suggestion for the enthusiasts to bear some of that financial burden of installing chips and stuff is admirable but let me put it this way, if there is a way that works well without the need to incur extra costs, wouldn't that be better?

As for guys who pack their "heat" around when going for games. Once this is legalized, it is not to be assumed that all police officers will be aware of the existence of these toys. So in the event you get pulled over, do the smart thing. Keep your hands on the wheel, stay in the car and don't make sudden movements. When the officer talks to you, declare to him "Tuan, saya ada replika mainan dalam boot. Tuan bolehla periksa tetapi mainan ini adalah sah di sisi undang2". Telling him rather than letting him find it himself can induce two different reactions. If the officer tells you to get out and frisks you, you let him do so. Remember you're not committing a crime so don't act like you are. Once he's satisfied, you might even make friends with him (if he's from the area you're from).


Lolz, sorry for writing so much. I hope I didn't bore anyone wink.gif
nikolo98
post Oct 30 2008, 01:08 PM

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What I mentioned in my previous post is to strengthen my stand that the misuse of asop as tools for criminal activity is minimal and that any excessive use of chips to control the distribution of these items is not only cost consuming but also effort consuming.

During the initial introduction, I'm sure there will be some idiots out there who try something stupid like what I've mentioned before but let's put it like this, if they get gunned down by the authorities, then..... excuse me for being a little rude here..... serve them right. At the very most, I'd say, the gov can implement this idea......

For every asop imported by government registered/licensed importers, it must be mandatory for the importing company to place a piece of paper in each box stating the national regulations pertaining to ownership and use of these toys. That is how the government can educate the public without using up any of their own resources. If people don't bother to read, who's fault is that really? the gov's or the person who chooses not to read?

So maybe that paper can have a line declaring end-user conformance such as "I hereby in possession of this item, declare that I fully understand the regulations that the government of Malaysia has underlined. In no event shall I directly or indirectly involve this item to be used as a means/tool in committing an illegal act and if such an event does occur, I do not hold the authorities responsible for their reactions."

I think this will educate and at the same time make ownership much easier for enthusiasts.
nikolo98
post Oct 30 2008, 01:48 PM

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Yeap. Something along those lines.....

Tapi tak perlu sain apa2. Janji you beli, dalam kotak tu ada kertas deklarasi tu you dah automatik setuju buat akuan. Senang kan? Kalo beli tanpa kertas tu, kira illegal la.... kalo beli ada kertas dah auto setuju.... kan senang? no need to go to gov office to sain ni sain tu.....
nikolo98
post Oct 30 2008, 02:46 PM

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You're right bro, I suppose the narrow-mindedness of our politicians does add unnecessary barriers to our hobby. What if there is big money to be made from this industry? kinda like AP system? do you think that will speed up the legalization process? I think it would.... wink.gif Cronyism at its best...!

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post Oct 31 2008, 07:14 AM

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CM.028-S....tried before. Not bad..... nice decent weight. Direct clone from the TM counterpart. The mechbox is V2 I think and the only thing I can see that is plastic is the fore-grip and piss-tol grip. Shoots pretty well although I have to say i'm not big on the AK's iron sight system.... I can't aim for nuts using those sights. Best iron sights are still from the M4/M16. Hope this helps wink.gif
nikolo98
post Nov 1 2008, 11:25 AM

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QUOTE(WarHawk @ Oct 31 2008, 02:29 PM)
Hi mate,
Back to step one, mate. I own JG M4A1 too, (JG 6603). It surprisingly pack 390 FPS consistently on auto and semi auto fire ( Yes! our team own a chronometre!). Not a bad toy in my opinion.

Back to legalization discussion,
Thanks mate Nikolo. That;s why I propose all those toy were kept in an armory. If the Philippines can do it, why can't we?. If we want to say how trustworthy the guard's are, think philliphines. Not only they have high crime rate, they also have terrorist yet they still keep all their toy in a supervised armory. All the toy that will be taken away by owner will be scanned and scanned again when they want to keep it back. As for method of transportation, be sure to bring your license and keep your cool when the blue boys stop you. Lastly, mate Nick, if we are not included to pay the cost of the chips and the RFID reader, how can we create a win-win situation with both the authorities and the airsoft owner?

sincerely,
WARHAWK
Bro Warhawk, I think the idea of paying a little more for some measure of security isn't a bad idea. I was considering perhaps RFID isn't the only solution. Either way, you have a valid point to consider on this topic. However, w.r.t the whole armory thing.......

Tak nak le..... I like sleeping and peluk-ing with my missus............wink.gif if she in armory, I'd be lonely...... cry.gif cry.gif

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nikolo98
post Nov 1 2008, 12:32 PM

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but here's a question, armory is gov controlled? so that means mesti ada banyak armori la..... what if easier..... airsoft centre operators are the only ones allowed to keep the airsoft. if you want to play you go there and collect your airsoft... play there and then keep there? macam mana? then the airsoft lagi restricted... tak bole bring here or there sesuka hati.....


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