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TSminthiam
post Sep 21 2008, 12:31 AM, updated 9y ago

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Anyone heard about this SIVC before? I heard a presentation about it. Anyone member got any good/bad comment to share? What's the FAQ to ask before joining a vacation club?

http://www.sunway.com.my/vacationclub/



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post Sep 22 2008, 11:58 PM

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thanks for all the opinion...
slko, you said your mum join sunway vacation club right?
did she try the room booking on weekday? How's that? Is it quite limited also?
How about the oversea room reservation?


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post Sep 24 2008, 10:25 PM

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fuwa,

mind telling me how much you joined the club last time?
How do you feel about the club? Is it really very bad service?
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post Sep 25 2008, 11:29 PM

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Fuwa,
Have you tried their hotel at oversea such as Phuket and Bali?
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post Oct 1 2008, 06:32 PM

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Thanks fuwa,
No one else heard about this club at all?
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post Oct 14 2008, 09:08 PM

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Yeah, thanks nonadoes for the input.So, mind sharing how many years you have joined this club?

I've discussed with Fuwa too, we are both quite concern about the point system where they can increase the point required per night stay. Other than that, i think should be ok!

Other not so good thing about it is the oversea especially Europe where you need to utilise all 7 nights in one shot!

I've just joined this club, so calling all the SIVC member, let's discuss about the up/down side about this club?
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post Jan 14 2009, 11:04 PM

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I've never heard of Leisure Holidays Membership, not sure how good is that?

Regarding the customer service, take Sunway vacation club,it is not actually that bad, except that they really like call u a lot (eventhough you clearly indicate that emailing is your priority?)

Recently tried to book a room in French Riviera on December for August 2009, they dragged my reservation until early this year then only tell me that my preferred date got all booked up, reschedule me into another days, now have to re-plan our travelling schedule again sad.gif
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post May 3 2009, 12:33 PM

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Yes, We have some painful experience here too. we tried to book for the hotel in french riviera under SIVC last year, according to their website the check in only allowed on Monday. However, when we tried to book them. SIVC was telling us that it was fully booked until Sat and we are only allowed to check in on sat.

Do you know when did we trying to book? It was last year November 2008 and we are trying to book for August 2009. I think it is really ridiculus to tell the customer who book almost one year in advance that the made available resort are fully booked? Nevertheless, you will still get the room just that it is not the date that you are looking for. Mind you, if you try to book too advance, they said not yet. The schedule is not out yet. Then? What do you expect us to do? Calling you everyday to check when the schedule is coming out?

In the end, we need to re-schedule/re-plan our UK/France/Italy trip just to accomodate the stay in that particular hotel?

Conclusion is, vacation club is not that bad if you know how to utilise them. It is most suitable for flexible people like senior citizens. I'm not sure about berjaya one as i'm not berjaya timeshare member but from the information that i gathered, they are imposing lots of hidden fees.

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post May 10 2009, 11:13 PM

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From what i heard, SIVC is trying to increase the points required for per night booking at their made available resort but due to strong complaint, they had to settle for the old point system until further notice.

So, hdwarexpert, isn't it good for you if the fee i getting more and more expensive after few years? So, if any of you guys have extra nights to sell it off, don't hesitate to let me know...
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post Aug 17 2009, 10:53 PM

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Hi Yahiko,

I've attended Leisure Holiday 'sweet talk' too...The offer is too good to resist as i remember, you will be able to get back your money after 30years right?
Frankly speaking, i think they home resort is not in good condition..some of them are due to bad maintenance. What do you think about Perdane Beach Resort, is it ok?
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post Sep 22 2009, 10:21 PM

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QUOTE(deqna @ Sep 4 2009, 01:58 AM)
i've just came back from our family vacation in bali last 2 week by using the SIVC point.. so far it works fine for me

i've joint the SIVC for 2 years, and didn't manage to book for holiday during my first year due to not enough annual leave.. however after appealing to the SIVC, they had allowed me to utilize back my first year point.. which i have use to get 2 unit apartment in jayakarta bali residence in bali for 3 days.. the place was great..

my experience for booking...  it happens during the peak season of august in bali. i had tried to call almost all budget hotel at legian area however all fully booked.. i can't change the date because i've buy all flight ticket for all 9 family member.. i try my luck and sent my reservation form witihin 1 week before the travel date and i was lucky that they had process it and give me confirmation within 3 days.. it was great.. no additional surcharge required and process work smoothly for me.. i save more than rm2000 that i used it for shopping... hehehe..

maybe thats my luck... after using the first year points that i got for the 2 unit apartment for 3 days, i still have balance points enough for 2 more days accommodation plus my unused 270 points for this year...
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Deqna,

How come you are so lucky? As for my case, i'm very dissapointed with SIVC. Everytime when i tried to make reservation with certain date, after taking their own sweet time, they will usually come back and tell me that the date that i wanted is not available. Do you want to try other date? Hello, i've booked my flight ticket. How do you expect me to change my itinery to suit your given date? WTF? Our last booking is French Riviera, they have written clearly in their website, magazine that minumum booking is 7days and only can check in on Monday. But when we tried to book 9 months in advance, they were telling us that, our preferred date is not available, next available date is on Saturday, what the hell? Why set the rule and not following it? Fine, finally we have decided to tolerate and accept the offer. The apartment is very very simple, do not even have a twin bed somemore, no air cond(hello,this is summer!!!!) and the worst part is need to pay for the electricity bill. I mean what is this? Is this Sunway standard?

Next experience is when we tried to book the accomodation in Phuket, previously they have 4-5 choices of hotels. Unfortunately when we tried to reserve, "Sorry, there is not longer under our made available resort!". Now there is only one hotel made available in Phuket and that hotel is also fully booked. My god, what is this? I've tried to reserve atleast 6months in advance. Their website is not updated regularly, the newsletter will be sent to us once is 6months. Next time, can you atleast send us some email to notify us about this? I mean, why do they remove most of the phuket resort, don't they know that Phuket is one of the most famous spot for vacation?

Hello sunway, i know this is not your fault, but can you atleast make sure that one of your affiliated 'Sunway Internation Vacation Club' is not performing below par too much. THanks
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post Sep 22 2009, 10:25 PM

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QUOTE(gha4 @ Sep 7 2009, 12:21 AM)
I went to the MATTA fair this afternoon with my sister. Not long after that, I was attended by a girl from Leisure Holiday. I know instantly that this is not the right 'investment' for us. The girl that attended us said that there is no obligation to join after we heard their 'speech' for about 30mins (actually its over an hour). Then i asked how much is the membership fees. Then the girl said, she wanted to review all the benefits first before telling us the fees. We agreed and started listening. After she finished talking, she said she will asks for the manager to tell us the fees. Then the manager came and long story short, full membership fees RM16,000.00. Down payment RM4,800.00 after he revised the price. After we said that we don't want he kept insisting and said to me "come on laa.. be a man..." WTF? He showed his card and it stated there vice president. If his attitude as a VP is like that. I will NEVER trust my money to his company.

My advice to everyone, please don't easily get influenced by these people. RM16k is a big deal and they should not force us to make the decision on the spot. I'm not saying that it is bad and no one should not join, NO. Just keep in mind that, if this is how they treat their customers or future customers BEFORE they got the money... haih... imagine what would happen AFTER they got your money. Please think wisely.
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Haha, i've experienced that too...if you tried to negotiate the price, it will really go very very low...But i simply do not trust them!
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post Sep 23 2009, 06:01 PM

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Moniueyong, there is no need to scare....probably different vacation club operates differently...probably Swiss Garden International Vacation Club is not that bad?

Do you mind to share with us how much you bought the package?
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post Oct 18 2009, 01:07 PM

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QUOTE(yahiko @ Oct 13 2009, 02:47 PM)
anyone here using leisure holidays~ Im now dying~ I book for KL resort and they say my point is not enuff so I ask to transfer advance point and they say cannot~ shitlah~ before sign up they say can not say cannot!
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Huh? Can you share more details with us? Did you just join and then they said you don't have enough points or what?
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post Nov 8 2009, 08:51 AM

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Well, in my opinion i think pay half year installment then only can take advance point is quite fair...As for SIVC, you have to pay atleast 50% of the total price then only you can utilise the points. The worst part is, in order for you to utilise the advance points, you have to pay the maintenance fee in advance too....:'(
Stupid Sunway,shame on YOU!
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post Dec 6 2009, 08:29 PM

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QUOTE(Anti_TimeShare @ Dec 1 2009, 11:23 PM)
If anyone have complaint on time share please visit www.nccc.org.my.It is a National consumer complaint center.Im a  cool2.gif way timeshare member.Im also not satisfy the service and the package i join.Because the sales person hide many T&C and at the end asked you to sign and not giving you time for think.Just a simple question you can ask the salesman,how mny hotel room did  cool2.gif way reserve from local or others country?As i know Legend water challet only less than 5 rooms.Let said sivc had >1000 members how can it fulfill all member.I also sucspect same as other's country resort/hotel.You must think on your side as member what benefit i can get.Why i need to reserve a room before certain month for my vacation.Is it worth i pay so much but need to Q for booking?V r member and oso consumer.I hope all of members who not satisfy complaint to timeshare company else report to government www.nccc.org.my.I hope Malaysia government need to concern on it.Better anti all time share activities else more victims.Whether the company is a big corporate or not,legal or illegal.Just BANN it!
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Wow, relek bro. You opened a new account to anti_timeShare? Mind sharing with us some of your painful experience so that someone who haven't join timeshare wouldn't fall into their trap? As i know, I think for Legend Water Chalet, they have only 2 units. FYI, SIVC has >3000 members last year. So, you do the math. Shame on Sunway Group!!!!
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post May 21 2010, 10:26 PM

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QUOTE(enmaidliya @ May 14 2010, 12:47 AM)
Hi...just joined the forum. I am a SIVC timeshare member for 2 years now. Bought the Platinum package for RM10K ++. Gotta pay that amount in four years.

What are the chances that I stop my monthly payment? Will they take action against me? M not that diligent in paying the installment either. I had tried to cancel my membership, but no success. They said, they've given 10 days cooling off period of which i can decide not to join this membership. Honestly, I can't recall, when did they say that during the sweet talk session. And I haven't even used the points ever since i became a member.

I know, I fell for the sweet talk.

Now, all I want to do is not pay them anymore. Any ideas/advice?
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I dont' think it is wise that you stop the payment..it is simply not worth it for u as you have paid for 2 years. Btw, how much u pay per month? If u cancel now, u'll lose everything. Unfortunately, that cooling off period is really stated in the agreement, just that during the sweet talk they never explain to us. The question is: do you really go and enjoy the resort? If u really enjoy it, then i think it is still ok.

I have another painful experience with SIVC recently. As i tried to reserve made available resort oversea, took them 2 weeks to come back with my 3rd choice selection. 2 weeks? Fine, never mind. Ask them few questions through email, they totally turn a deaf ear to me. What the hell? Ask for resort information, they send me a low resolution JPG, printed it out and enlarge it with magnifier also can't read properly. I requested again, this time they totally ignore me. Is it really that hard to send me resort information?

Any place that i can complain to this? Everytime when i wrote in email to general line to complain, a lady name Shireen Wong will reply with a very sarcastic note. Their motto is: You can complain any time u like but you can never leave!! Stupid Sunway, shame on you!!!

To all brothers and sisters here, do not fall for their trap and join timeshare.


Added on May 21, 2010, 10:28 pm
QUOTE(lsyeong @ May 20 2010, 11:56 PM)
I'm svc member too. Anyway to cancel this contract ?
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Hi there,

When did you sign up for it? If it is below 10days, it is still under cooling off period and you can walk into their office and cancel right away, but beware their boss, an old lady, I think if not mistaken Natasha or something, she is really quite convincing. Don't fall for their trap. We got up to the second step and fall for that old lady sweet talk.

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QUOTE(lsyeong @ May 21 2010, 10:37 PM)
I'm around one year. As I'm not really using it so just want to cancel it. Any one experiEnce with it? pls share if there is anyway to cancel it cause it really not really useful for me sad.gif
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Around one year, you utilise their inhouse installment or they bill every month and you just go and pay it? Around one year, meaning that you have paid around RM6K already. There is no way to cancel, unless you don't pay and they forfeited your membership. I think it is not worth it, i think you can sell the membership to someone or sell the rooms out, mind telling what is your membership? Platinum even or odd?
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QUOTE(darrenlam @ May 26 2010, 02:43 PM)
Hmm... SIVC again.... my dad now currently in some issue with SIVC ... they have salesperson who just ask you to sign on empty forms and say it for "standby" purpose and then send it up to bank to start recharge your credit card when you say to them you are no longer interested.

Even with police reports made, they are still taking it up that the legal documents are legally signed .... guess what... the salesperson also left SIVC already.

SIVC relationship managers? well... they will only help you if you want to give money to them ... not when you ask for refund.

I think if we setup a group of people who wants to complaint SIVC or take legal action against them ... the numbers of people would be interesting to see.
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Totally true, when you request something from them, they just totally ignore you. They are only efficient when come to collection.
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QUOTE(zillionincome @ Aug 24 2010, 11:36 PM)
I am selling mine, anyone interested?
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SIVC? Cool down bro, when did you join this club? Is it worthwhile to sell it now?
Just out of curiousity, is it easy to sell off the membership? Have anyone sold their membership before?

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