they are not even gods
Just charms.
Invoking the spirits and to possess it.

witchcraft, to put it mildly.

Play with fire, and you'll get burned.

^ LOL at superstitious idiocy

if it really works, that means YTL has tonnes of amulets around his neck?

The best amulet in business is this:



Hang it round your neck, emblazon into your garment.

Najib will grant you government projects and make you rich beyond your wildest imagination.

It isn't thai buddhism but pure witchcraft crap.

Which part of true buddhism teaches you about hanging those trinkets to get material benefits like love, family, business etc?
Thats being into attachment, contradicting Buddha's teachings.

LOL. you are pretty thick at insinuations, aren't you?
Look at UMNO ministers and tell me they aren't rich?

Metta or not, the gist of gaining material gains is an attachment to earthly desires is already wrong.
For those who succeeded without such "metta", what do you say about it? Nor could you say anything that with such element, it MUST lead to success, can you?
YTL are Christians, mind you, and have their own chapel in their own homes.
Their success comes from good business acumen, not relying on trinkets for kids.


Lillian Too's a fake cow. Ask any fengsui master and they would tell you that!
sheeesh!

And if you don't know, you need to be an UMNO member as stage 1 to prosper before hanging that logo.


Of which has nothing to do with Amulets at all. They are all fakes and have nothing to do with buddhism.

Existence of god is mutually exclusive to the usage of amulets and charms. Mind telling me what part of teachings in what god you adhere to that says you must wear the amulet of the gods? Buddha a god now? Thats so fake man.

Look, buddhism has nothing to do with amulets and trinkets to give good luck or what not.
People get scammed all around.
Success is an individual measure which is only relative to himself according to his passion and goals, out of which has nothing to do with your amulets.
Lottery? How many of those with such amulets scored 1st prize consistently all the time? Or is it due to random chance? Thats not amulets at work.

What you believe in thai buddhism is one thing, but to talk about thai gods and amulets is another thing.
Why don't you name out the gods' name in question and tell me which part of their scriptures tells you to practice wearing these sort of stuffs? Scheming and scamming people into forking tonnes of money just for what? Attachment!


What has it got to do with the knowledge you have on what buddhism really is?
Going to temple? I see everyone there praying for their own selfish desires and asking for this and that.
materialistic at best.

BTW, how many real buddhist temple are there out there? i only know ONE which is near Taman Jaya/Amcorp.
The rest are all chinese taoist temples with some monks drapped in yellow garments, and accepting bribes during cheng beng to pray for your dead one.

Well, the funny thing is that people pay money for this package of paper, and write down the name of the person, and give "angpow" to the monks to pray....but the thing is...there is more than one person of the same name...so what the heck are they praying for anyway!

if they want alms, people are free to give without anything in return. Like church's tithes and muslims' zakat.
And the gods you see there, hardly anything to do with buddhism.

It has been watered down so badly that the temples i recommended my sri langkan friend to was shot down immediately. He was looking for a real buddhist temple and that time (10 years back) i forgot to tell him abt the thai buddhist temple near Amcorp mall (silly me)

To make things clear, Buddhism is one thing. Thai buddhism is another thing. Thai gods is more than another thing....and amulets have nothing to do with Buddhism whatsoever. It is a deep convulted corruption of this beautiful teaching of buddhism.

I had been to one near cheras, and no date of birth needed.

That depends. Just like how some wear crosses.
If one thinks it is for "protection" and pays a lot of money for it, then its very misleading to sell and scam people into buying it, worse if its from the temple. Hence this thread was asking about such amulets of such questionable "purpose". It has nothing to do with Buddhism, nor have any magical powers at all.

It is wrong to fool people into thinking it has such "magic". Very misleading.
what, hanging that around your neck and Buddha/Kuan Yin will come bless you with their mystic cosmic powers for good fortune and lottery?
Thats what buddhism is about? I freakin lol at how some "buddhists" here loves to corrupt their own beliefs with their own convulsive logic and superstitions.

Its interesting because:

1) i see a human making out with a horse diagram (*bestiality*)

2) you charm your partner into submission, not out of his own free will (might as well marry a robot).

you call this love? What the difference from slavery then?

3) Talks about amulets that gives luck and wealth. Hooray for attachment to worldly desires, and you can dump buddha's teachings on detachment down the drain. And thats suppose to be from a monk?

4) To quote:

Here some background of Archan thep:

When Archan Thep was 13 yeras old, he learnt black magic and also the ability to made powder of prai guman and takrut from his great grandfather and grandmother.

His maternal grandfather and grandmother then teach him advance level magic such as recite incantations to wake up the body of corpse. He also learn many visha magic from lp sakchai in wat sakeow.

While he was ordained (novice), he learn from lp wooraprot in jumpon , konken for 2 year
Archan thep also learn from many monk on pilgrimage in thailand and in Laos, studied many subject from Archan chum chaikeree also. Many people in asia who used his amulets do experience many good result as Archan thep is famous in doing magic for love , attraction and good carrer.
According to Archan thep, all amulet are self made and also hard to find for component and special ingredients to do. Most of his amulets are made very little and will not be redo again.


You guys are promoting black magic/witchcrafts here. Not buddhism.

And this is suppose to be good? Charming your mate into submission and love? How sincere could it be?

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The thing is, it has nothing to do with buddhism, which was my point all the while.

amulets, black magic, the occult, witchcraft etc....these things will turn back and bite into you.
Its not a belief. it is dealing with spiritual stuffs that will get you burned regardless.
And paying for it? Thats worse than getting scammed into MLMs. At least in MLM you some tangible but useless stuffs. This one here you get nuts.
Bringing in monks and saying they'll bless you with amulets that helps you in material gains....isn't thins totally contradicting to the core in buddhism?

You guys are giving buddhism a bad name.

No

if you want to wear those, fine. Sell it, fine. but don't associate it with buddhism.
Worse is when you get fake monks to bless those amulets.
I've seen so called buddhist monks too doing this, helping people with material gain, using their own logic to ease sufferings by helping you with this trinkets to improve your psychology, thinking that nothing bad will happen, improving your morale and psyche. Its all in your mind.

Fu is also part of the mumbo jumbo.

And buddhist monks should educate their followers more instead of giving such scam objects to ease the minds of the feeble.

Thats why buddhism is so diluted and corrupted everywhere you go. The monks are doing it themselves, and the people are following blindly.
if you want to buy with a few bucks, fine. But when it escalates up to thousands or hundreds of thousands, then it is way too foolhardy.

Veteran Buddhist scholar Sulak Sivaraksa is disgusted by what he sees as a perversion of the teachings of the Buddha.

"They've lost their way", he said. "Monks are supposed to renounce money. The teachings of the Buddha have been killed by the demonic religion of consumerism."

And like all pyramid schemes, this one is beginning to unravel.

What sort of "way" is there to practice? An amulet in possession is a contradiction to the belief in buddhism.
Only those who are not an adherent to any religion would go for it. It is the lacking of faith in their own beliefs that prompts and compels them to seek out such amulets.

For one, you are really a simpleton and not being able to differentiate sarcasm when its due
Two, it is the perversion of Buddhism in which I am against of. Do read more, my simple minded boy.


If she is real, everyone would be rich buying her stuff instead of only making her rich, wouldn't it?
But I doubt you'd grasp such simple logic

I think you should read back and pretend to comprehend. just pretend. I can't imagine you being able to actually comprehend simple words, but at least pretend instead of opening your mouth and remove all doubt of your intellect.

Because you haven't been lubricating my posterior for a long time.
Now shuddap and do your job as you're paid to do, slave.

So this gives you rights to corrupt buddhism eh?


Really? You would? Could you? .... aaww

Belief in what? Amulets or the religion that conveniently gets linked to it?
Then we should all keep quiet at seeing others being scammed by fake lecherous mediums, MLMs, conmen etc cause it is their "belief"?

For one, this isn't a religious thing at all. Only ill knowledged people think it is
Two, You mean you prefer this picture instead?


Three, sure, But i'm not only into drinking with you...i'm more interested in drinking "out" from you,...if you get my drift

Not if its soaked into vaseline first, and applied by YOU

Heh, the Christian community abhors such acts of witchcrafts. They just don't tell it to your face, thats all.

Just stop posting and come here and lube me boy. The vaseline is off the self to your right. Careful of the stool.

I will suck you dry until you look like a dried chillie..
But cant tell you when la...too many horny men booking me for the months to cum.
Oh Gawd, ayam kambing to you soon...no worry

SSHHHHH!!!! Dont tell ok??? I give u body massage back... ok? ok?

Sometimes, it can be due to chance, other times to witchcrafts.
The spiritual realm of the occult is very real. Its best to stay away from it at all costs.

Not entirely.
There those that serves to enrich the bearer with MATERIAL wealth, as well as to subjugate the opposite sex into finding favour with the bearer, of which defeats the whole notion of sincerity in relationships.


So you mean it is ok to corrupt the teachings, the beliefs, and to scam/lure people into earthly desires and lusts just to sustain temple expenses?


I'm only pointing out to those monks who are questionable in practice and beliefs, particularly in this scenario.
No where have I generalized all monks to be as such.


If you're either not a chinese or not a buddhist then, since you believe in amulets. So the rest here are either non-chinese or they are not buddhists but taoists or some other mystic religion?

And if you don't know, the link joe_mamak pointed out, senior thai buddhist monks are against amulets too. So it isn't thai buddhism actually, but the assimilation of withcraft and superstitions into thai buddhism, of which senior monks are against it.

Hence my stance that buddhism must not be linked with such amulets and charms.
As the links have pointed out, and explicitly bolded by me, that such charms are indeed made by people of the occult. Monks that got involved in it are the ones that gives thai buddhism a bad name. Think about it.


Francis yeoh himself is a christian, and his success isn't caused from his wife being a buddhist, but by his own business acumen, and neither was his success and his fathers' was due to using amulets and charms. My facts are indeed sound, and what you put forth here doesn't negate my assertion.
Otherwise, please point out at which stage in their lives that they relied on amulets/charms/occult to charm their way into business?

Up until now you still fail to see the gist of my posts.
And here I repeat again...

If you want to use amulets, fine. Don't link it to buddhism. Amulets and charms are AGAINST the core principals of Buddhism.
You have yet to disprove this assertion.

This post has been edited by happy4ever: Mar 11 2009, 01:29 AM