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TSsiemens
post Sep 15 2008, 04:58 PM, updated 18y ago

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my bro bought a bass guitar yesterday...
now we are think wad amp to get...

i`m thinking of using 2 guitars on 1 amp



Laney ah-100


i have this amp in mind..

my budget not high

i`m playing in church.

my bro is goonna play the bass
while i play the lead guitar

my church has a crowd of 50++

theres a drum too.

is this amp sufficient?

or any other ones u guys recommend?

This post has been edited by siemens: Sep 15 2008, 05:06 PM
nimrod2
post Sep 15 2008, 05:09 PM

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you wanna plug in an electric guitar and a bass guitar to the amp?

i rather u not. the bass would blow or crack the speakers dude.

somore u wanna use it for church environment?
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post Sep 15 2008, 09:27 PM

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I recommend using 1 amp for 1 instrument...
TSsiemens
post Sep 15 2008, 09:56 PM

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err cos i there`s some1 using another large keyboard amp in church for the bass oso, which formerly was use to amplify the acoustic..

so i`m thinkin of doing it the same

so cant work?
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post Sep 15 2008, 10:11 PM

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but is was that keyboard amp plugged with 2 instrument?
TSsiemens
post Sep 15 2008, 10:15 PM

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err
nop...

so means the amp will overload and blow?
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post Sep 15 2008, 10:34 PM

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No it won't blow.But it'll definitely spoil due to the low bass sound and it's gonna sound bad too.Just get a guitar amp for guitar and a bass amp for bass guitar.
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post Sep 15 2008, 10:56 PM

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yea, u wont get a good sound, is like bass sound mix with guitars, whoa, rojak...
TSsiemens
post Sep 15 2008, 11:16 PM

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i dont mind if the quality is compromised
as long as i can crank up the volume for both bass and electric for a 50~60 crowd then will be alright..

i`ve read abt keyboard amps have good low responses

so i dont think the bass would be a problem right?

while i have a pedal for my electric to make some effect...



lets make something clear,
i wont blow the speaker if i play both instrument together?
the only CONS i`ll have is not so good sound quality?
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post Sep 15 2008, 11:56 PM

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You WILL ruin the speakers.Simple as that.If played at low volumes,the speakers would probably last longer but if you're playing at high volumes,the speakers will die.
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post Sep 16 2008, 12:12 AM

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QUOTE(freakfingers12 @ Sep 15 2008, 11:56 PM)
You WILL ruin the speakers.Simple as that.If played at low volumes,the speakers would probably last longer but if you're playing at high volumes,the speakers will die.
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owh..
sad then
cos i have a low budget and need to get a guitar amp and a bass amp
so i thought of getting a keyboard amp to solve my problem
guess i dont have a choice huh...


but i`ve read from some website where keyboard amps and bass amps frequency range are almost the same..
infact keyboard amps can cover the low and the highs
while bass only the lows and not good with highs

i thought the will do well?

so really cant? rclxub.gif
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post Sep 16 2008, 01:43 AM

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no idea oso wei, never tried such challenging things, haha..
of coz i recommend 2 amps la, but budget is always the thing that kacau
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post Sep 16 2008, 09:03 AM

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QUOTE(freakfingers12 @ Sep 15 2008, 11:56 PM)
You WILL ruin the speakers.Simple as that.If played at low volumes,the speakers would probably last longer but if you're playing at high volumes,the speakers will die.
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i agree. actually i think i spoilt my dads guitar amp coz i played my bass thru it. when u crank up the volume, the speakers cant really handle the low freqs and may result in it cracking. i guess mine is spoilt, but i havent told my dad yet hoping he wont find out icon_question.gif

anyway, about your k/b amp handling bass guitars, i'm not sure about it but i guess to some extent it is true.
but my question is, you are gonna use the amps to fill up the room for about 50-60 ppl?
i dont think its a good idea. cant u mix it to the main systems?
if u use the amp to power the whole room, u'll be loud in the front (and for you) while soft behind.

my recommendation is just to line in the bass to the main systems. then get a budget amp for your electric guitars. maybe 40watts? just to hear yourself, and mike up that guitar amp for the front of house.

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post Sep 16 2008, 11:37 AM

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wat u guys think if the 15w randall kh signature amp ??? i like the writings on it @.@....... i got m.cube.. worth the change ??.. sry bang tumpang thread
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post Sep 16 2008, 12:34 PM

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QUOTE(nimrod2 @ Sep 16 2008, 09:03 AM)
i agree. actually i think i spoilt my dads guitar amp coz i played my bass thru it. when u crank up the volume, the speakers cant really handle the low freqs and may result in it cracking. i guess mine is spoilt, but i havent told my dad yet hoping he wont find out  icon_question.gif

anyway, about your k/b amp handling bass guitars, i'm not sure about it but i guess to some extent it is true.
but my question is, you are gonna use the amps to fill up the room for about 50-60 ppl?
i dont think its a good idea. cant u mix it to the main systems?
if u use the amp to power the whole room, u'll be loud in the front (and for you) while soft behind.

my recommendation is just to line in the bass to the main systems. then get a budget amp for your electric guitars. maybe 40watts? just to hear yourself, and mike up that guitar amp for the front of house.
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ermm i read abt guitar amps cant handle bass due to the frequency range
bass is too low dats why will boom...
but keyboard amp is diff it covers a while range...

ermm the mixer has 5 jacks
and 4 used of mic

ermm
abt the bass amp i think i`ll use the existing keyboard amp

so i`ll just get an electric guitar amp..
how much power do i need to fill the whole room for electric guitar?
50w is enough?
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post Sep 16 2008, 01:24 PM

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QUOTE(siemens @ Sep 16 2008, 12:34 PM)
ermm i read abt guitar amps cant handle bass due to the frequency range
bass is too low dats why will boom...
but keyboard amp is diff it covers a while range...

ermm the mixer has 5 jacks
and 4 used of mic

ermm
abt the bass amp i think i`ll use the existing keyboard amp

so i`ll just get an  electric guitar amp..
how much power do i need to fill the whole room for electric guitar?
50w is enough?
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about the k/b's that may be true. but better safe than sorry. maybe the better k/b amps can handle bass freqs but then the budget models may not handle it so well.

u got spare wan, u can plug in the bass thru a DI box mah.
u can try using the k/b amp, but go safe and dont blast it.

well as i said above, u can do anything wan. whether its practical is another matter.
u put 50watts, the front guy can hear loud loud, behind maybe soft soft.
u want behind to hear u crank it up, the front guy + stage goes deaf biggrin.gif

u the sound guy ah? where your church again?
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post Sep 16 2008, 04:43 PM

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get a PA system and a DI box to plug bot guitar and amp to the PA system. easy problem solve.
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post Sep 16 2008, 07:03 PM

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QUOTE(lordie @ Sep 16 2008, 04:43 PM)
get a PA system and a DI box to plug bot guitar and amp to the PA system. easy problem solve.
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that was my suggestion. but his mixer only 5 channels, and 4 are taken up by mics already.

u have to remember that amps are for the player only. not for the front of house / main hall.

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post Sep 16 2008, 10:05 PM

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QUOTE(nimrod2 @ Sep 16 2008, 01:24 PM)
about the k/b's that may be true. but better safe than sorry. maybe the better k/b amps can handle bass freqs but then the budget models may not handle it so well.

u got spare wan, u can plug in the bass thru a DI box mah.
u can try using the k/b amp, but go safe and dont blast it.

well as i said above, u can do anything wan. whether its practical is another matter.
u put 50watts, the front guy can hear loud loud, behind maybe soft soft.
u want behind to hear u crank it up, the front guy + stage goes deaf biggrin.gif

u the sound guy ah? where your church again?
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ermm
we dont have a sound guy...
mine is just a small church..
around a crowd of 50 ni

DI box?
okie i`ll get some info on that

QUOTE(lordie @ Sep 16 2008, 04:43 PM)
get a PA system and a DI box to plug bot guitar and amp to the PA system. easy problem solve.
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okie thx for that suggestion
will try


btw how much one of these cost??





btw wads the different with a line out from the amp and a DI socket cos
the laney bass amp RB3 has a DI socket while the Guitar amp LX65D has a line out
these 2 have any diff a?


QUOTE(nimrod2 @ Sep 16 2008, 07:03 PM)
that was my suggestion. but his mixer only 5 channels, and 4 are taken up by mics already.

u have to remember that amps are for the player only. not for the front of house / main hall.
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owh i dint noe...
mayb cos we are so small and used to be amplified thru an amp

This post has been edited by siemens: Sep 16 2008, 10:58 PM
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post Sep 17 2008, 04:24 PM

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might as well get a better upgraded mixer? maybe 8 channel? and a few DI's. u can get DI boxes for both guitar i think. not sure abt guitar but bass got a ton of brands make and model. the cheapest. you could get a Hartke VXL that got a XLR DI or maybe those multi effect with xlr output like Zoom B2.1u or something

as for guitar not sure.

good investment in the long run

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