With the upcoming league coming into place, there will be need for players that do not have teams, particularly during the course of the season.

I have come up with a plan that would benefit both teams and free agents, but would generally require teams to fork out payments, if necessary.

Here's the plan. To avoid teams changing players mid-way through the league season, teams are required to register their subs, if they don't have one, they cannot continue unless they "loan" or "hire" a free agent.

This will be a contract based payment, free agents are paid either per game or per season. Their performance is rated by the teams that hire them and are reflected towards their resume. Free agents CANNOT join the teams permanently, until the season ends. This allows other teams to eventually bid or offer them placements within their teams. Once they are a permanent placement, they are no longer a free agent and will not be listed in the free agents listings.

Upon a breech of contract, "free agent not showing up etc etc", teams may release these players with bad rep, generally black listing them from the listings.

How contracts work.

1. Teams that need members will scroll through a list of players, with their "resume" online, maybe here, together with their contact number
2. Team leaders will then contact the players for availability
3. The Free Agent may choose to accept or deny an offer but once they accept, they MUST fulfill the requirements of the contract that is signed
4. Upon accepting a contract, the Free Agent should typically appear for trainings or matches for the said period of time, once the period is over, the contract is void and he/she will be a free agent once again, so long as the Teams do not renew that said contract.
5. Teams are then responsible to fill up a recommendations/comments list of the player for them to put into their "resume"
6. New contracts are needed for completed/forfeited contract

Here's an example.

Contract A:
1. Team X will pay for training costs, est. RM 4/hour a day, directly to the cybercafe.
2. Team X will arrange transportation if needed.
3. Team X will pay RM 10 per win, RM 5 per draw and RM 2 for every participated game.
4. IF free agent fails to appear for whatever reason, the contract is voided.
5. Upon forfeiture, a penalty of RM100000, paid by the Free Agent is incurred.
6. All disputes must go through the organizing commitee of said league before a final result is confirmed.

example laahhh

What do you think, ladies and gentlemen?

This will be the first in Malaysia, assuming it is taken into consideration.
This is a serious matter and may, in the future affect all gamers, including other games out there. Think about it.

[ESP].Death
For the future of gaming.

This post has been edited by crashtec: Sep 12 2008, 02:54 PM

Death FTW I go train train n be a free agent also

Lol this would probably scare the shit out of most people.

Good idea but do the teams make the contract or is it a fixed contract decided by the league?

This post has been edited by Exoskeletor: Sep 12 2008, 10:05 AM

cool. Yeah, it happen to my team last sunway competition. my player can't come on time. i think is a gud idea brought by death.

Brilliant, dude! Although I'm sensing that we'll have to come up with the contract template itself, but who cares! Another step closer to professional gaming. <3 I think many people out there who are thinking that everyone is 'peng yo peng yo' (Def: friends) and by doing this, we are ruining personal relationships and what not. Well, as long as there is money involved, you should be covered lar. =)

i'm kinda newbie to the reply stuff but i would like to join. coz i dont have any team and i kinda want to play with someone else. so help me here pls guys.

Hmm i think we should figure out a proper template ill cook one up and see....

we'll (the league commitee) come with a standard template, which we will give to all captains. There are rules on when the brackets are open. You cannot register a team with a free agent, means they cannot be attached to a participating team.

Generally, the details of the contract are private and must go through the commitee, for legitamate purposes

walao this is football manager!!!i think its a good idea cause i am sure there would be situations where some players cant make it.

my question is wat about borrowing a member from the same clan?for example SWL.RvG is a member short n they would like to borrow a member of SWL.PeW for just 1 match,would that be possible?I know SWL.PeW is banned from this league but its just 1 member n it reduces complications of finding new players.

I Think it would be the same as in this contract also apply's for LOAN status just that if u loan a player its on contract and more formal hence u have to work out a Deal with said player.......

There is a per match basis payment also if u just want to loan said player for one match..

PS: u ish cantz loans SWL.PEW playaaarzz they ish bannzzors fromz tish towrny



This post has been edited by Holyboyz: Sep 12 2008, 12:46 PM

well, to be fair, you can't. Since the player may be imba for amatuer league status, it may affect the league in a way. They are banned for a reason

Technically, we need to enforce this rule so free agents get to play. It also allows teams to actually scout for players during the season, then after that, perhaps take them in permanently as a team player. Remember, free agents aren't getting the perks good clans have, therefore its still more pros than cons for them

works both ways, hope ou understand.

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Added on September 12, 2008, 12:35 pmAlso, it forces you to think about having subs for your team. Registering them is technically "free"

This post has been edited by crashtec: Sep 12 2008, 12:35 PM

SAMPLE OF CONTRACT(Death and Grr please take alook @ it)

 Free_Agent_Signing_Contract_example_.doc ( 33k ) Number of downloads: 38


PS:yesh i ish nothing to do ><... Death quack is looking for u cants call u cuz ur phone phails.....he ish wants training tonight

This post has been edited by Holyboyz: Sep 12 2008, 12:49 PM

wow

tonitez? o.O

nice ...

fair enough.time to setup a scouting department.

WOW THIS IS SO TOTALLY LIKE JAGGED ALLIANCE I VOLUNTEER TO BE THE CHEAP-ASS 250/MISSION GUY EVERYONE GETS AS CANNON FODDER AND I'LL ONLY USE A PISTOL.


(!!!!!!!!!!!)


EDIT: FORGOT TO MENTION I'M RLY HANDSOME IRL.

This post has been edited by Falk: Sep 12 2008, 03:27 PM

wow get paid to play @_@

i ish wanna also~~

death, this is a good suggestion for those teams that u all said alck of ppl on one match ^^ it's a good idea ~

wahh.. good idea.. in case of emergency.. can hire assassins from here.. but then, if hired noob later waste money n time.. haha perhaps later on can do a ranking system for player oso.. wahh so far ahead..

Technically, there will be a ranking system

Its for the good of the community! XD

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Added on September 12, 2008, 3:59 pmFoogray chases Falk around with his HANDSOME IRL comment asking "a/s/l? a/s/l? a/s/l? a/s/l? a/s/l? a/s/l? a/s/l? a/s/l? a/s/l? a/s/l? a/s/l?".

This post has been edited by crashtec: Sep 12 2008, 04:00 PM

Falk is handsome while Dray is Macho.. OMG go chase girls la you two.. dun play COD4 hehehe

ESP'S FEMALE POSSE HAS INSPIRED ME TO FIND A GIRLFRIEND OF MY OWN

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I HATE MY LIFE. SERIOUSLY.

then u stamp it...only 10 bucks. So any dispute can sue and go court.

lol death HAHAHAHA

Jagged Alliance!!! Now dat brings back nostalgic gaming memories!
Nways, gud idea... but needa spread the word though, cuz i think most ppl reading this wld be clan ppl only lol

this post shud b placed at the gamers section ^^

Wah. Lau. Weeeiiihhhh. *thinks to self* i'm going to create a new lowyat acc. go under a new name. play sucky at first. then join the league.* This is genius but complicating. =/ But genius.

Yeah, good idea. You can impersonate the DotA guy we saw that is your doppelganger the other day in SCG. lulz. Better not spam this thread anymore. =(

i push this to be available in the progamer league

So who's the assassins for hire?

Registration will be open soon!

i was hoping for hot babes for hire to cheer my team

how much u willing to pay?

hey Naix! u r here!

i pay on bed

haha k make a poster ill stick it up for u in my uni lets see how many want your "in bed payments"

There are no free agents in professional gaming.

There's always something new. Besides, with no one enforcing or applying it, obviously there wont be.

oh...my...god.....i think this is an elaborate hoax and somehow we all bought it...

u wanna bind players with a fkin contract now? jeez, with this talk about leagues, free agents and contracts it's really starting to sound like..like...like FOOTBALL!

but its not =( contract kinda takes out the casualness in the game, dont you think?

HAHAH! Do I get to loan ESP members? What's the wage I need to pay? Is there any pre-agreement that I can "sign" the player once the loan contract ends? I ish want Ho|yboy; my darling.

OMG !! GHEY!~ UR DARLING @_@!!

Apparently tournaments are casual now. I guess we can take out the rules then. Eh. Maybe don't need any marshalls or organizers. Oh wait. Looks like no tournament at all now. =/

I'm sorry if I sounded abrasive, but in my experience, after their first tournament nobody joins for fun.

Wow, playing COD4 can be so serious.

internet r zeriouz buzinezz. so ish CoD4!

Eh well done, Grr speaks for the world now. If you have contracts, who's gonna oversee them? I dont remember CoD4 Association of Malaysia. Who is going to validate the contacts? Do we need solicitors to negotiate our contracts now too? Contracts just make it so...so...so damn bloody complex and the next thing anybody knows, we're gonna have lawsuits filed against people who breached the contract blah blah blah. IMO, registration should do just fine.

I said 'in my experience', genius. Unless expressing a personal opinion is 'speaking for the world' then I'm not wrong. You don't need a solicitor to negotiate your contracts unless you can't read. Teams that require these free agents for their league campaign will be cursing when the free agent that they have hired goes missing/leaves them hanging. It's just a simple contract drawn up for the purposes of hiring someone conditionally. If that's so difficult for you to understand, I suggest self-employment for your vocational future.

Death has very nicely suggested something that will help teams that are short of players and protect both parties at the same time. Obviously the league committee will oversee these contracts and how they are played out. How would you like to be screaming at a voicemail of someone you met 2 days ago and asked to play for your team? Well, even with contracts, you can't avoid that, but at least you could get something out of it. If you're not interested, don't sign up. Besides, for someone whom I haven't seen play in any tournaments (despite professing to have been at the Blitz tourney) you have tons to add, don't you?

stop being a troll..


The contracts are for promotional purposes only. If you know how the COD4 community and organizers run, you'll see why it may attract them.
Notice the amount of teams looking for players and notice the amount of players looking for teams. The contracts just make it official.
I noticed this from Tbun's First tournament by New Era. A majority of teams needed extra's for their team.

If you read through the contract rules, the commitee will oversee payment and breaches. AND it only affects free agents, not casual players.
If you want to be in a competition but not permanently in a clan, the free agent listings gives you a better chance of being there. Think Freelancer.

In the industry, any industry, you'll have freelancers, those who understand the terms and conditions while wanting to be a participant but not completely tied down to a corporate ruling. The Listings is FOR those people. Why be a freelancer? Money and reputation.

The reason this is here is also to promote getting paid for gaming while gaining a little more respect for gamers nationwide. If you cant handle a simple gaming contract, which has like.. 2 clauses, how are you going to survive in real life when you deal with real contracts that have 90 - 120 clauses.

This argument is invalid, Because the contract are at the concent of 3 parties. Player, Commitee and Clan. So long as there are 2 parties in concensus and there is a valid contract, all we need to do is black list those who do not follow the rules from the league. No one is going to pay you RM 1000 to play for them, therefore there is no need for a lawsuit.

Other than this, the contracts are also to ensure players dont FFK teams that are willing to play and pay, but are missing a player or two for that particular event.

Please think thoroughly about it before putting it forward, we may make mistakes as organizers and players, but ultimately some thought has been put to this. You must also understand the difference between a critique and an insult.

SWL Has support crew for that reason Or have you forgotten about us?

i thought the support crew is there to give moral support n supply us with drinks n food?haha

on a more serious note kura u need to train more n improve.control ur emoness n be more consistent.look at wraith n flavar.they have improved tremendously in the last 2 months.soon we ll be begging u to play for us.

a bit ouch la pr8sh....

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Added on October 16, 2008, 6:20 pmdude... it's a just a COMMUNITY and not worldwide larrr wad he meant by contract is the friendly contract lawl~ not really getting u sued pants down and go to jail .....

This post has been edited by AeonStrife: Oct 16 2008, 06:20 PM

He's just out to belittle people online. He won't be able to sit down at a table and talk it out. =) Cheers.

hehe, newbies like me can join or not

dude chill out man....seriously its like you hate the entire world or something man.....lol go buy albums of simple plan =(!

well if the chick in ur avatar plays i dun mind

AEON! U THINK LIKE ME!!!
sure can join... if U R dat avatar chick! or bring dat avatar chick along. We will support right bhind u 1!

Wah! You guys damn naughty wei...








This post has been edited by Luftwacko: Oct 18 2008, 03:07 PM

Even better. I will support him from behind that chick.








I win. <3

dats d idea on supporting 'bhind' ^^

it's ok she can sit on my shoulders for a better view...you'll have to stand behind me. youll have to speak up though because she'll be covering my ears with her thighs.

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Added on October 18, 2008, 3:23 pmI feel like a double bonus, guy behind me, girl on my shoulders... =DDD

This post has been edited by Sanction: Oct 18 2008, 03:23 PM

but but but you said... =(

... you said you'll be supporting 'HIM' from behind. Not her. =(

So it'll be me, Grrr then wraith behind Grr?

Sweet, i get the big boy...

nonononono i think som clarity over my statement needed since i typo really fast btw wokin...

d scenario is d hot gal is cheering bhind d guy playin... so i ll b *ahumping d girl from bhind.. ehh i mean standing bhind d girl 2 cheer 2! and you two can do wuteva standing bhind me as long as you don't touch me with wateva organ or body part of urs... stay awayyyyyyyy.

k case close. i ll stop spammin here.

LOLNESS!!! hahaha.. why u guys so freaking horny fighting over an avatar girl one... i bet he doesnt even know her =P

Though i agree with the if u bring her then sure u can join thing.. LOL!!

u guys ah...more like getting laid to play thread....which sounds fun also coming to think it....lol