Not going to argue with you. The math has been done, in both AJ, EJ and regular forums. Spirit is superior in nearly all arena situations except sub-minute bursts.

yea 10 ticks and hes full mana LOL!

if he innervate... lolwut mana

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Added on September 9, 2008, 12:20 pmso ur saying math/theory craft > actual pvp situations? lol

refer sk-100, and look only their priest/druid. only a SMALL fraction gem spirit, provided theres people even going spirit.
and thats usually ONLY their purple 11 heals + spirit gem, and that only.

This post has been edited by Quazacolt: Sep 9 2008, 12:20 PM

so for pvp no need spirit? damn my friends all lied to me...they told me they pvp better when drunk.....

by the way how fast can you tear a 0 resi priest up? 1 secs?
was the priest standing still?
was he sap?
u back stab him?

i dont know about spirit viability in pvp.. but as far as i am concerned.. spirit is like the most unused stat in game...

my hemo/GS can crit up to 2.5k++ on his 0 armor 0 resil body. 9.3k HP buffed. and the ammount of hemo/GS i can spam.

you do the math.
sub 10seconds should be able to finish the job

oh and he cant fear me too as i got WOTF + pvp trinket + CLOS
so he cant even delay the killing.

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Added on September 9, 2008, 3:19 pmmost LEAST used stats, perhaps. however if you refer to the armory ch@ich@i linked, you'll understand how powerful spirit can be when properly used.

900 mana/tick = ~10 ticks 0-100% mana
that itself is GODLIKE now matter how you think of it.

the only thing is that in pvp that said priest will be gibbed and dead healers cant heal. (or regen mana, for that matter)

This post has been edited by Quazacolt: Sep 9 2008, 03:19 PM

Hmm.....post patch 2.4, I know alot of Sunwell priest raiders switch to +spirit gems instead of the +heals one. Not sure if they are still doing as such.

sigh @ kiljaeden kills...

im not hoping to step into sunwell .. just hope that we can at least get to illidan before xpac.. nowadays people tend to get lazy and chill off to wait for the xpac.. while some of us wanna push to illidan before xpac...

in jubeithos 2 days ago there was a pug illidian
every 1 cbf to even go for that....sadly they had to call it off

We're buying BT and Hyjal IDs. And those same ppl who bought them, we offer 1-2 spots for them to learn the bosses and loot that no one else wants.

Sounds like energy and rage to me, only not as good.

Sigh being a mana user is just so sad. But they're putting in unlimited mana pots for arenas and BGs. Hope it helps lol.

whatttt resetting over 10k+ mana in arenas is "not as good", what are you smoking LOL

lol... really.. resetting those mana isnt a good idea in arena.. hahaha

What I meant was, we don't have unlimited energy/rage and there's no such thing as "Drain Energy/rage" or "Energy Burn/rage". And the mana replenish skills have long CDs and easily interupted.. ok more like only Evoc

And we gotta drink, if a pet's on you then forget about it..

etc
etc

The point of being a mana class is that.. you're quite powerful with mana but shite if your mana is 0. In WoW, you're just as good as other classes but still shite when your mana is 0.

Kk I'm a mage and as usual, mages whine a lot. You can disregard anything i said above

mages have their issues, thats a known fact. well, just *MAYBE*, they wont be so bad if warlocks are so f***ing good (DESPITE being an ez train target in 3v3/5v5 against cleave teams)

lifetap, then drain life, and lol pet having mage's 17 pt talent.

Khelben, why does mage whines a lot?

bcoz they have some of the best skills/talent points and they want to be the pew pew masters of the game

hmm i might wanna roll a mage then

if this thread is pointed to any healer type, i can say spirit is useless for pvp because paladin does not require spirit and they need crit and mp5 instead of spirit so i'm kinda agree with quazacolt, pvp does not require spirit instead of mp5.

btw my paladin go for crit instead of mp5 in pvp actually lol cause FOL and holy shock crit save 1 heal.

example:
normal FOL is 1.5k and if crit can go up 3k = 2 heal saved 1.5sec casting