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TStoccatina
post Sep 7 2008, 07:12 PM, updated 18y ago

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I dunno how to ask but i'll try >__<

The guitar have 6 strings, when u play the 1st and the last string together, should I not use my thumb when I play E,B,G next?

This post has been edited by toccatina: Sep 7 2008, 07:12 PM
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post Sep 7 2008, 07:15 PM

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Are you talking about plucking or?
fatboythin
post Sep 7 2008, 07:45 PM

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I assume you're talking about fingerstyle right? Well I don't know the 'correct' style, but I normally use my 2nd, 3rd and 4th fingers for g, B and E whereas my thumb covers E, A and D.
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post Sep 7 2008, 08:46 PM

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u shudn't and shud use index finger, middle finger, and the ring finger
TStoccatina
post Sep 7 2008, 09:01 PM

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i think is plucking. why i shouldn't use the thumb?

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post Sep 7 2008, 09:17 PM

 
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i use my thumb for the 3 thick strings usually. assuming you're talking about the the picking hand
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post Sep 7 2008, 09:26 PM

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QUOTE(SweetTooth @ Sep 7 2008, 09:17 PM)
i use my thumb for the 3 thick strings usually. assuming you're talking about the the picking hand
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so i shouldn't my thumb on the 3rd string?

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post Sep 7 2008, 09:27 PM

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Basically,

4th, 5th, 6th string = thumb
1st, 2nd, 3rd string = the remaining fingers
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post Sep 8 2008, 12:24 AM

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QUOTE(fatboythin @ Sep 7 2008, 09:27 PM)
Basically,

4th, 5th, 6th string = thumb
1st, 2nd, 3rd string = the remaining fingers
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yep with each of the other finger on one string.
Thats the basic technique but for some songs, its required to use thumb on third string
And for some other songs, you only use the thumb and first finger to pluck and omit the rest. This produces a "constant" kind of tone throughout the whole song which is important to convey the music.

So it really depends on the song and your playing style. What im trying to say is, the basic technique is just a guideline, don't follow it so strictly. Learn to adapt your own style whenever possible. It all depends on what kind of tone you want to produce.

Thumb = generally produces a bass quality sound
first = used for rather mellow plucking be it rest stroke or free stroke
Second = Produces a sharp tone
third = almost the same as first

Reason behind it is because the length of your fingers are different but the strength you use is almost the same for each finger. Unless your first, second and third finger is almost of the same length then the tone will always be the same no matter which finger you use hahaha =D
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post Sep 8 2008, 01:03 AM

 
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there is no general rule actually. whatever's comfortable with you will work. what ryuuga posted is just the general rule of thumb(no pun intended)
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post Sep 8 2008, 01:59 AM

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thumbs up to every one biggrin.gif

(pun intended)

toccatina, are you trying to play "nothing else matters" ? i don't know, just a guess.
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post Sep 8 2008, 03:18 AM

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QUOTE(SweetTooth @ Sep 8 2008, 01:03 AM)
there is no general rule actually. whatever's comfortable with you will work. what ryuuga posted is just the general rule of thumb(no pun intended)
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Sorry, I have to disagree with that. Ryuuga's post were right.

Look at this.. I mean the fingering.


Classical guitarist actually plays the bass. Listening to this music, there is no bassist just the guitarist alone and the record bass are just right. The pianist requires no accompaniment, pianist uses both of their hands so there is the bass and the melody. Guitar is like the piano as well, 1st to 3rd string is the melody and 4th to 6th string is the bass.
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post Sep 8 2008, 08:45 AM

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cool Yang Xue-fei....hehe....lol...
actually all of u all are not wrong....but can't say that u're absolutely correct....what that matters is good sound is able to be produce....like what ryuuga said...is the very likely sided to kotaro oshio,but tommy emmanuel doesn't use one finger to play melody oso...n can u say that his melody line is not good n not constant...is juz that different player got different preference of playing styles....

well...and also....4th,5th n 6th string not neccesarily for bass line only..it can be use for melody line also..for example....the beginning part of "Asturias",Tommy Emmanuel's Day Tripper,Merry Cristmas Mr.Lawrence by Kotaro Oshio....


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post Sep 8 2008, 02:25 PM

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QUOTE(ReeveX.com @ Sep 8 2008, 08:45 AM)
cool Yang Xue-fei....hehe....lol...
actually all of u all are not wrong....but can't say that u're absolutely correct....what that matters is good sound is able to be produce....like what ryuuga said...is the very likely sided to kotaro oshio,but tommy emmanuel doesn't use one finger to play melody oso...n can u say that his melody line is not good n not constant...is juz that different player got different preference of playing styles....

well...and also....4th,5th n 6th string not neccesarily for bass line only..it can be use for melody line also..for example....the beginning part of "Asturias",Tommy Emmanuel's Day Tripper,Merry Cristmas Mr.Lawrence by Kotaro Oshio....
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No one's right and no one's wrong.

I am saying it according to the educational reference. If you said what matters the most is the sound produce, that means is free style.

Tommy Emmanuel is an acoustic guitar player, the plays arpeggios using picks. Okay fine, but what about playing the 6th string and 1st string at the same time? This is not comparison, this is just style and education reference. Do not go anywhere else, okay? icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Sep 8 2008, 04:44 PM

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lol....r u sure tommy emmanuel only uses picks to play arppeggios,he known as one of the best fingerstyle player in the world....

well,anyway, that's what u want to believe in...n it's fine with me....everyone has a different way of thinking....good luck icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Sep 8 2008, 04:51 PM

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QUOTE(Pix @ Sep 8 2008, 01:59 AM)
thumbs up to every one biggrin.gif

(pun intended)

toccatina, are you trying to play "nothing else matters" ? i don't know, just a guess.
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no.. trying to play romance d'amour @_@
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post Sep 8 2008, 07:58 PM

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QUOTE(ReeveX.com @ Sep 8 2008, 04:44 PM)
lol....r u sure tommy emmanuel only uses picks to play arppeggios,he known as one of the best fingerstyle player in the world....

well,anyway, that's what u want to believe in...n it's fine with me....everyone has a different way of thinking....good luck icon_rolleyes.gif
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About Tommy Emmanuel, I just went through a quick look on YouTube, I saw him playing with picks..so, ya.

Well, thanks. We are united. cool2.gif

QUOTE(toccatina @ Sep 8 2008, 04:51 PM)
no.. trying to play romance d'amour @_@
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Look at the video that I have posted, it is the same piece. It is a grade 2 piece.
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QUOTE(toccatina @ Sep 8 2008, 04:51 PM)
no.. trying to play romance d'amour @_@
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ok, so thumb is used for bass notes and the three other fingers for the rest.
the hardest in this piece, for me, is the weird time signature... one bass every 3 measures, how messy is that ? rclxub.gif
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post Sep 9 2008, 01:51 PM

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I'm just trying it out myself. currently still learning chords and strumming. hehe.
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post Sep 10 2008, 12:32 AM

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QUOTE(Paramore @ Sep 8 2008, 02:25 PM)
No one's right and no one's wrong.

I am saying it according to the educational reference. If you said what matters the most is the sound produce, that means is free style.

Tommy Emmanuel is an acoustic guitar player, he plays arpeggios using picks. Okay fine, but what about playing the 6th string and 1st string at the same time? This is not comparison, this is just style and education reference. Do not go anywhere else, okay? icon_rolleyes.gif
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haha did you know, i'm the only guitarist in the whole music college who doesn't(or never really learned to) use a pick for the guitar? xD
If picks were banned in the world, every other guitarist would have to suffer except me ahahhaha

Ok off topic and over syok-sendiri there...
Oh Romance d'Amour, best advice i can give, you just gotta feel the piece xD
basically, when playing this song, use the "general rule of thumb" as i posted above as it is pretty impossible(if not illogical) to play the bottom three strings with one finger LOL
Unless you're doing tremolo then you're forced to use the three fingers to pluck first string and your thumb have to go as low as second string =P

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