QUOTE(De LoNelY @ Sep 19 2008, 04:56 PM)
hello friend u wanted to have a SG?
u better make research bout SG before u buy one
try not to spam ya
welcome to SG thread
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Sugar Glider V8, Cute Pocket Pets!
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Sep 20 2008, 06:14 PM
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QUOTE(tee_jay @ Sep 20 2008, 02:08 PM) I tried dates for my kids... tee jay. mind sharing how did u serve timon, bubba, phumba, qiqi & gadget with sugarcane?timon,bubba n phumba love it so much but not qiqi n gadget.... all of them love to eat sugarcane.... its heaven for them.... and where did u get it is the most important thing. i knew during Ramadhan, almost all bazaar got sugarcane, but still, not sure if they willing to sell it or not, because they use it to make sugarcane juice |
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Sep 20 2008, 09:41 PM
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QUOTE(saramic @ Sep 20 2008, 07:32 PM) hi hazzy.... hoh! 3ft for RM3! thats quite reasonable.sugar cane can be bought in any chinese kopitiam that sells it in USJ/Taipan. we bought it at court 3 near bengkel metro bus. they sell according to length. rm3 for about 3feet. then just cut it 3inch in length & split it into 4 pieces.... i'm sure ur babies will love chewing on it. thank you for sharing saramic / tee_jay. |
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Sep 26 2008, 04:26 PM
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Sep 29 2008, 06:36 PM
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This has been a very sad few days for me and once all of you read what I have discovered, I am sure you will be sad and angry too.
First and foremost, I would like to thank Reanne for giving me the idea to do this as she mentioned in the hamster thread about consulting a nutritionist. A few weeks ago, there was quite a lot of commotion here with regards to the calcium intake within the GliderSlurp. If anyone recalls, crazymouse did say that you can feed as much slurp as you want. I did not want to say much about this then as I was scolded by her when I mentioned that a glider cannot take too much calcium. So, I began to suspect that there was no added calcium in the slurp. I bought a container and decided to send the slurp to the lab to test for calcium levels. When I opened the slurp, I also noticed a few black dots in there. My first thought was added supplements but I could not think of any supplements that looked like that. So, I began to suspect that the maker did not de-seed the apples and those black dots were apple seeds. As most of you know, apple seeds contain cyanide and ingestion of cyanide can be fatal to humans if administered in large doses. (Please google to find out more about cyanide poisoning.) I then sent the slurp to lab for testing and the results have just come out, which I have attached below. The flavour I sent was Orange Carotene. Carrots have an almost 1 to 1 ratio. Orange has a 2 to 1 ratio. If the report says almost 1:1, means the calcium shown on the report comes from the fruits. Even yogurt has calcium in it, so technically, if there is yogurt in the slurp as claimed, there should be higher ratios of calcium even without the Rep-Cal. This also brings us to why the phosphorus levels are so high. If it is from fruits alone, the phosphorus levels should not be that high. I have spoken to some experts and let me briefly tell you what the report means. There is NO added calcium supplement and perhaps NO yogurt in the GliderSlurp as well. The calcium is not even enough to cover the phosphorus in the slurp let alone all the phosphorus your glider is ingesting from meal worms!! When a glider has insufficient calcium intake, it has no choice but to draw calcium from its own bones. I am sure you know what this means. The cyanide testing was also sent to the lab and as the report below shows, there are rather substantial amounts of cyanide in the slurp. Cyanide attacks the nervous system and can kill. I have been informed that once cyanide had been ingested for more than 2 hours, it CANNOT be reversed. This means the poison remains in there forever. THIS MEANS OUR GLIDERS ARE BEING POISONED SLOWLY. If you Google about cyanide poisoning, you will find that sometimes the effect does not come immediately. It may come much later which means that the glider will have much shorter lives and the glider will suffer when the nervous system is attacked! My Mika was on GliderSlurp previously and it really saddens me to know that she may have toxic in her body which cannot be removed. My friend has helped me to check with Hands and Paws on what can be done and they too have basically said that not much can be done All of you may or may not believe all this but it doesn't matter. I just want to tell all the real glider lovers to be careful. For those that do not believe this report, I plead with you to send any EXISTING slurp in your freezers at home to the labs. Click the spoiler below to see proof! (Lab report and sample of slurp) » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « This post has been edited by hazzy: Sep 29 2008, 10:51 PM |
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Sep 29 2008, 11:02 PM
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QUOTE(Reanne @ Sep 29 2008, 09:20 PM) Nobody needs to explain themselves, just use common sense. The customers should be able to think for themselves and their own gliders. this has nothing to do with pet shack.1. Her gliders are fed the same Slurp as the ones she sells, why would she want to kill her own gliders? Furthermore, why would she want to cause harm to other ppl's gliders? If she wanted to make profit, won't loyal customers always buy her food and she gets the money regularly? Anyone can google and see gliders live 10 to 15 years, if she made something that could cause harm to them then what's the point of even making it? They live long lives, not like hamsters. 2. The ingredients are mostly composed of organic and human grade ingredients. I have eaten the mix before myself, my gliders have been eating it almost everyday for 2 years. Everyone is still alive and doing very well. They even do better than when on BML. 3. Why send it to Penang? UPM is in Serdang. 4. The maker was not there herself during the analysis. The product may have been contaminated, who knows. 5. The black bits are kelp meal, not seeds. 6. Why all this happen only after she stopped supplying to Pet Shack? Trying to kill competition? its between me and the maker, and nothing to do with u or else, ure the one who make it? i post it here, to share. not to argue with u. i have no time to play with u. This post has been edited by hazzy: Sep 29 2008, 11:07 PM |
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Sep 30 2008, 05:12 AM
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QUOTE(Jamien @ Sep 30 2008, 12:58 AM) I still think the sample is contaminated. If we all know Hun, she is incredibly passionate about gliders. She won't be that careless to blend apple seeds in. i just got my salary la,So then comes my other question. Does anyone know how much seeds it takes to produce 0.22ppm? It is a small amount but I want to know. Plus hazzy is now feeding his gliders with smoothie. I'm not pointing fingers but the sudden need to send slurp for testing a a little strange. But yes, sure, we don't know if a seed accidentally drop in THAT particular slurp. But we also don't know if the sample is contaminated. u think its cheap? if u my father then i can ask money from u right i got the test lab report for smoothie QUOTE(White Palace @ Sep 30 2008, 01:05 AM) So, Hazzy posted the report, the remaindings of the statements are from HIM, NOT THE LABORATORY. The CYANIDE PPM is 0.22 PLEASE take note the measurement, it is PPM (NOT mg, not any other measurement) and it is 0.22. So, any of you here know what does this indicates? Who pass you the knowledge of the PPM is POISONOUS or even harmful? Do you guys know that very small amounts of cyanide, in the form of vitamin B12 (cyanocobalamin), are a necessary part of the human diet? Humans can be exposed to cyanide from environmental, occupational, and consumer product sources. The single largest source of cyanide in air is from vehicle exhaust. Other sources of release to the air may include emissions from chemical processing industries, steel and iron industries, metallurgical industries, metal plating and finishing industries, and petroleum refineries. Cyanides may also be released from public waste incinerators, from waste disposed of in landfills, and during the use of cyanide-containing pesticides. When certain types of plastics, silk, wool, and paper are burned, cyanides are released. People who smoke tobacco take in larger amounts of cyanide than nonsmokers. It simply means that, CYANIDE exist almost anywhere. PPM 0.22 might not even be harmful enough to kill an ant. A PPM 0.22 of CYANIDE might be analysed in anything if a smoker handled the product previously, if the product is not open up in very secured, closed, superbly clean place, or simply being exposed at anywhere which had CYANIDE. You might open up something without CYANIDE and bring it to analyse and there is some in it. We simply can't just say ALL SLURPS contains CYANIDE just because one of it being examined without even the maker present contains such a mini-mini-minimal lebel of CYANIDE. If you say out of 10 slurps, 9 contains very high level of cyanide, then it sounds more convinving. PPM 0.22 and make it a big issue? It is plain "Searching for chick bone in an egg" (Yah, put it at your signature!) Deaths in animals have been reported at exposure levels ranging from 20 ppm for 4.5 hours to 503 ppm for 5 minutes. Heart effects in rats have been reported following exposure at 200 ppm for 12.5 minutes. The PPM found in SLURP, is a mere 0.22, which means it might not even signigicant enough to do any harm, AND it might not be convinving enough to prove that a bottle of PURE 500ML SLURPS contains cyanide when it is packed originally. It might simply due to the exposure, just like if you open up anything, and send it for an analysis, you can also find a non signigicant amount of cyanide in it. A question to Hazzy. What are you feeding your suggie now? Are you sending it to lab and comparing the level of PPM in it? It should be your priority if you REALLY REALLY concern about your SG health but not BAD NAMING others. And whoever concerns about their SGs, why not you send the food you currently feeding to the lab? It might contains HIGHER number of PPM or worst a significant amount. But most probably, it will be mere less than 1% cause I believe another brand is made for the love of the SGs as well. I understand that competitions exists, but there must be a fair play. Hun is just merely a student who loves pets, who discovered a products which she deemed as a proper diet for SGs. Shame on those who treating a student like that, especially those working adults. I'm starting to look down on you guys. Imagine one day if your younger sis or bros, or even kids being treated at such a way. Oh ya, Hazzy, is Hun there when you send over the SLURP? If you want to convince people, go get an original, un-open one, with Hun's present, bringing one you currently feeding along, to the lab and test it out. IF YOU REALLY CARE FOR SG, you will do that dont you? im not asking u, im asking hun for explanation. i pm her also no respond, i post it here also no respond, are u hun? uve change ur sex? im also a student la, im just 20. AGAIN! EXPLANATION FROM HUN! NOT YOU! NOT JAMIEN, NOT REANNE. cleared? anyone else that are not related of making the SLURP please shut the hell up. im using english right? sigh..... This post has been edited by hazzy: Sep 30 2008, 05:14 AM |
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QUOTE(sharil_routh @ Sep 30 2008, 06:32 AM) How we want to know either the glider supplement have any nutritions or not? we are not scientist have apparatus dat can test those supplement. hahah! why dont u ask white palace since he is 'mr know it all' or jamien? I read in previous page, someone said that glider calcium, rep cal i think is out of stock, if its out of stock where did them buy it? i think dont sell any rep cal in Msia. |
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@white palace
for ur information, the calcium n phosphorus will not change even the slurp is spoil. its pack in a 15in X 15in X19.50 ice box & fill up with FULL ice it can at least last for 2 days 1 night with no problem send by nation wide with charges RM 26.25 cos the cyanide can be careless or don't care that cos the cyanide but the cal is the thing she should know n why she didn't add calcium in it that is a purposely intention and not cos by careless u guys want to follow me to the lab? do u think its a kinder garden where u can play with their stuff? sigh... p/s:thank you sharil!!! This post has been edited by hazzy: Sep 30 2008, 04:58 PM |
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QUOTE(^MochI^ @ Oct 1 2008, 02:34 AM) if live ones i cant la, the freeze dried i also freaked out already. i ask bf to feed 1. how to intro freeze dried 1s? urm.. mochi, putting milk in water bottle wont be a good idea.glitter is around 7-8weeks old. so i giv papaya only with the wombaroo milk a? now i got so many things to feed but i duno which shld i feed first, i got the smoothie,wombaroo milk,mealies. then shld i feed all these 3 at once? or separate? the wombaroo milk can i put it whole day for it to drink? Below is the cage i bought today @ petshack. u can see its attached with 2 waterbottles, 1 is water, another 1 is the wombaroo milk. Can i leave it whole day for it to drink huh ? ![]() because, i used to do that, and hun said, bacteria of milk will grow inside bottle and will be poisonous substance to the glider. u can only get rid of the bacteria using boiling water or detergent, but if u use boiling water to clean that kind of bottle it will melt urm... but i tried to clean it with very hot water (just boil) the bottle didnt not melt but i tried 3 times already, its still ok |
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QUOTE(electroyid @ Oct 1 2008, 03:16 PM) wow...sumbody has actually c their SG has hind-leg paralysis.... hope u can help them fast... hope they get well soon.... Added on October 1, 2008, 3:57 pmhmm... been reading this thread... n yet still no answer frm hun... except frm the "unwanted" person... im not trying to b in any side... but wer the hell is the aswer that i n evrybody wana knw...??!!! i wana know the damn answer...!!!!!!!!!! u guys keep on telling it is not dangerous... then prove it..!!! don juz say rubbish... wat i can say now is hazzy have the prove to accuse on the poisonous slurp...well wer is ur prove on saying its not... stop talking shit if u don have any thing to wipe it clean... so now... if guyz don have anyting to prove so don post any S**t... till ther is no any new evidence stop on posting sumtin fiction... clean this thread... i wana learn how to take care of suggies... not waste my time reading ridiculous n stupid post... i am independent group..not on any side... peace..~~ anyway, ive posted at the dispute thread about this matter also, but still no respond http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=805213&hl= QUOTE(bonai @ Oct 2 2008, 12:57 AM) Nope, went playing PS2 instead... bak datang winning eleven!I'm the lord of winning eleven.. don't anyone dare to challenge me.. muahahaha Kelvin, RULES! No sales link here... Later you kena warn baru tau.. summore people here will tell you promoting.. well, u know la how ugly this thread is.. so better do it in pm.. anyway, nice effort in helping people.. Please don't make things worst.. Giving cucumber and tomato everyday is already bad.. Adding at least apple or pear to just wont do any good.. It's not enough.. Please bare in mind that SUGAR GLIDER DIET is important... Do not screw up their diet... There's a thread specific for this so please read more there.. jcmf, do not post anything regarding diets la, u don't know anything.. Please study more.. nanti aku pegi tempat kau main sorry for spamming, but i just dont care anymore to all muslim! bonai,sharil,elektroyid,spelit,ikeyz, to everyone la that i knew, SELAMAT HARI RAYA!!!!! and to all non-muslim! nezumitaro,teejay,saramic,kelvin and everyone here! HAPPY HOLIDAY GUYS!!! |
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QUOTE(tee_jay @ Oct 4 2008, 02:37 PM) latest update on Z... neuter all in 1 shot?she now getting to know bubba... I think few more days can put then 2gether d... hehehe... hopefully doc Jenny stuff will come in as soon as possible.... cos I need to neuter all my boys... Added on October 4, 2008, 2:43 pmlatest update on Z... she now getting to know bubba... I think few more days can put then 2gether d... hehehe... hopefully doc Jenny stuff will come in as soon as possible.... cos I need to neuter all my boys... haha! good luck, timun pumba bubba |
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