aww thank u.. ive been planning to go to pet shack i was in pyramid earlier with friends but had to rush back so it kinda slipped off my mind.. maybe when i have enuf cash to buy another cage ill prolly get it.. this was the most i cud get for them.. sasha is very jumpy and hyper and mumble is a lazy fatty.. that aint normal right?? he sleeps most of the times and because he sleeps she wants to sleep too.. i have to constantly take them both out of the coconut shell and let them run around..

@Mijah: Maybe? And it's not too sweet so maybe that's why Frey don't like. Ceres is it? I think I've seen it before. Same packaging size as Marigold wat. But has either sugar or preservatives. The only cranberry juice I saw without sugar and preservatives is Marigold.

@Keira: Cute suggies! The cage looks nice with your deco. But as saramic pointed out, taller is better than wider la. And I think your suggies are brown because of your coconut hideout. Sorry for the edited post.

This post has been edited by Jamien: Sep 27 2008, 12:42 AM

hahaha Jamien they look brown becoz of my house lighting.. hahahahaha i wipe mumble often with a cloth and a lil drop of water.. mumble yes he is abit brown.. sasha is still 'clean'.. hahaha.. i gotta change that darn sleeping spot.. im getting irritated with them constantly in there and i cant take them out..
sasha hasnt bonded with me yet so she crabz and nibbles but mumble is good.. hahahaha

yeah,Ceres..sory..lol i usually buy just the small box..Ceres only got the large 1 rite?
or mayb in ktan there's limited choice..so that's the only 1 i found..
i think there's another imported brand that has got the 100%,no sugar,no preservatives..
but cant remember what's the brand..hv to ask my mum 1st..
coz that day she bought that 1..quite expensive la but it smell good..

@Keira: Get a sleeping pouch lar. You can buy from KP or Pet Shack or even Pet Safari has it. Easy to get them out of their hiding spots, easy to clean (just toss into washing machine), and no fur staining that coconut hideouts cause.

Then you shouldn't be worried about your suggies as well. Your mumble will teach your Sasha to be nice.

@Mijah: Yes Ceres only has 1 liter packages. But Marigold's small package also out of stock where I was working that day. So had to get the 1 liter one. Now I have to share with Frey to finish it... Let me know yar the bran that your mum bought and the price.

This post has been edited by Jamien: Sep 27 2008, 12:53 AM

No problem. Happy balik kampung time with your gliders.

What muchan86 means by limiting mealies is limiting mealworms. Not the fruits. A growing joeys needs all the fruit and nutrition it can get. Mealworms are full of fat and phosphorus besides protein, so that is why we must limit the mealworm intake to about 5-8 mealworms a day.

Please do not give pork. If it is in the kibble is ok but not the pork meat. People normally give cooked chicken coz it is easier to digest. Also pork meat is not very high in calcium. The one in kibbled, already processed to be suitable.

It is normal for them to want to sleep in their food bowls. One is to be closer to the food source, then it also feels more secure. What you can do is take out the food bowl once you find your joey sleeping inside. It will automatically find another place to sleep, so have the sleeping pouch near the area of the food bowl.

Add a little bit more? Your info is not for fresh food but it is for staple diet, which is very different. Fresh food needs to be changed everyday at each feedings. and no such thing as add a bit more with the left overs. Joeys need 2 feedings a day, in the morning when they are still awake, a light meal and in the evening a bigger meal.

Wild caught, you need patience. Yes, bond like joey and you would need to do tent bonding. You have to gain their trust.

Please do not feed egg everyday. It is low in calcium.... did you include a high calcium food in the diet? I did mention limit to a teaspoon, not a tablespoon.... Egg is nutritious but you cannot overfeed.

Glove? You shouldn't use gloves. It would just make the bonding process longer.

You should get hold of a good supplement food like GliderSlurp or smoothie.

Hope you have fun with her.

Good to know she is improving with the juice.

It's Ceres. It has small packaging also, just harder to find. Oh, just to let you know, I'll be going to Fluff this Sunday.

Slightly underage, maybe 6 weeks OOP.... well, it would be best you get a pic of the tail as well.

The cage is alright for now, but they won't enjoy much height. A cage with height is much better since their are tree animals.

every glider is an individual, just like humans...
some likes to eat...
some sleeps more than others...
some are hyper active....
some are calm.....
etc....
as long as they are eating well, u shouldn't worry too much...
get a sleeping pouch so u can get them out easier....
trust me, i had a coconut before & it's hard to get them out when they grow bigger...
plus they tend to turn brown faster...

sasha is on the food bowl mumble is the big one on the cage floor.. thats the best i cud take she never stays in 1 place for more that 10 seconds.. even while eating she chews a lil bit then the grabs it and hangs upside down on the cage to eat it..

hun,did u get my pm?how about the instant slurp?still hv it?
if my mom is free on sunday,mayb can go to fluff..

btw,Ecah & Elly get along well now..
i've put them together n they play together..
no fighting n no crabbing..
only a lil hissing sound when both of them r in the wodent wheel..
berebut kot..lol
so happy that Ecah has finally accepted Elly..
so dont hv to carry 2 cages la for blk kg raya nanti..

Ah, this picture is better. She looks 8 weeks OOP, judging by the tail. It could be she is just small size as some joeys grow slower, depending on how they are brought up. She looks ok, as long she keeps eating and is active, you don't need to be too worried.

Yes, I got your PM, replied to you already.

Good to know Ecah and Elly are good with each other. Hissing a bit is just their way of telling each other their dislikes, quite normal hahaha.

^keira : sasha's tail is quiet fluffy... I'm not good in guessing the age of joey as I myself still got lots of things to learn here... but from the pic u shown.. sasha should be okay as her tail is quiet fluffy

Mijah : where u stay?

nice joeys...
looks healthy but the cage...
hmm...
my advice... the taller the better... then wider..

wats for dinner..??
looks interesting...

yeah,i'm so happy..
but now,both of them so sombong la with me..
just now,i went to check how they're doing..
surprisingly,both of them r not playing..
so i peek inside Ecah's pouch..then 2 heads pop out from their tail..
sooo sooo cute leh..
they look at me as if saying 'yes kakak,may we help u?'
good la they can sleep in the same pouch now..
but i still put both Ecah & Elly's pouch in the cage,just in case..

@muchan: i', staying in keramat,kL..but i study in kuantan..just got ome for raya break..

Did the bonding process..
they seem to trust me a bit more..or maybe they just wanted the mealworms..lol..
anyway..they climb all over my hand..
seeking for mealworm..n try tasting my hand..so far..
no pain i have to endure..thx guys for the advise..

hahahah a lil yogurt, carrot,seedless grapes, and mango.. weird combo but i havent been goin for food shopping.. im starvin myself.. so thats all i cud give.. sad really.. i had the whole colour diet planned out for them.. hope they are ok with it..

Good luck Cipan! Please post the follow up for your bonding process ok? I am interested in the bonding process of a WC suggie.

@Keira: Your Sasha's tail is like my Frey's tail! Fluffy~~

Found this forum on glider Wheels.... Please read to be safe as I heard some of you guys(and also me) have problems where 2 gliders run in the same wodent wheel or gliders that run alot in the wheel. Apparently people had accidents with their wheels.

http://www.glidercentral.net/ubbthreads/ub...e_Wodent_Wheels

In the end, here is an explanation:
http://www.glidercentral.net/ubbthreads/ub...topics/643881/1

So the bar in the middle of the wheels(like wodent wheel), please put a safety guard like a piece of PVC pipe. It is explained in the 2nd link.

update on Z...
she's up & 1st thing she went to look for is food...
now she's eating.. nicely munching away...

hahaha i suppose so.. hyper lil thing jumping around me.. thanks to her nails i have scars all over me.. >.< hey speaking of which how to i trim their nails?? im terrified of doing it.. i dont wanna hurt them.. anywhere i cud go?

as far as i knw... grape is kinda dangerous for the glider...
even thou it is still under observation... beter avoid it...
beter safe then sorie rite...