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coldblood
post Oct 29 2008, 02:26 PM

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Hi. I want to become a lawyer in Australia but I am confused whether to take JD(Juris Doctor) or LLB degree. JD is going to waste my three years on some other degree. whereas i would prefer LLB. But thats just my perspective, there are tons of people opting for JD and just out of curiosity's sake, i was wondering why.

LLB wise.
Is a combined degree better than a single degree? Sorry because I am still young and fairly lacked of info.
I maybe wrong but I found out that UWA UNSW and U Syd do not offer single LLB anymore but double degrees.
Does combined degree and single degree really matters a lot?

LLB degree
I hope to be able to get enrolled into Monash or maybe get a double degree at UNSW / U Syd / UWA. But the problem is I haven't been to any of the states and I do not know which state provides most opportunities for future lawyers. In terms of employment and gaining training contracts for malaysian students like me. Which state offer most job opportunities for a young lawyer/ law clerk? Sydney? Perth? Melbourne?

Sorry for the long questions. But i am really lost.
Thanks for everything.

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post Oct 29 2008, 10:14 PM

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QUOTE(coldblood @ Oct 29 2008, 02:26 PM)
Hi. I want to become a lawyer in Australia but I am confused whether to take JD(Juris Doctor) or LLB degree. JD is going to waste my three years on some other degree. whereas i would prefer LLB. But thats just my perspective, there are tons of people opting for JD and just out of curiosity's sake, i was wondering why.

LLB wise.
Is a combined degree better than a single degree? Sorry because I am still young and fairly lacked of info.
I maybe wrong but I found out that UWA UNSW and U Syd do not offer single LLB anymore but double degrees.
Does combined degree and single degree really matters a lot?

LLB degree
I hope to be able to get enrolled into Monash or maybe get a double degree at UNSW / U Syd / UWA. But the problem is I haven't been to any of the states and I do not know which state provides most opportunities for future lawyers. In terms of employment and gaining training contracts for malaysian students like me. Which state offer most job opportunities for a young lawyer/ law clerk? Sydney? Perth? Melbourne?

Sorry for the long questions. But i am really lost.
Thanks for everything.
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post Oct 29 2008, 10:28 PM

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oic thanks anyways hehe
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post Oct 30 2008, 10:43 PM

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Referring to haya and alsree
this is RNB's opinion haha ( just to share it here)

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Simple terms:

You will get your PR by doing law. However, you can only apply after becoming a solicitor, and in most cases this means doing your degree + 1 year of practical legal training. Therefore, if you are doing a single 4 year degree, budget for 5 years expenses.

You will get a job in Australia if your grades are decent enough. Since you want to do just law, your options really are Monash, UNSW, and perhaps Queensland since Sydney only has double degrees for undergrads and Melbourne have their strange new system which prolongs your study. Between Monash/Melbourne & UNSW/Sydney, there really is no discrimination. All have people in high places of the judiciary and the profession. All are equal when you're looking for a job. Melbourne & Sydney have the most jobs. There's nothing in Canberra except government, and you can't work in government as a non-citizen. I am suggesting that you do not study in one state then move because you will build your network in the state you have studied in, and the partners who interview you sometimes favour graduates from their own alma-matter. Australia is also very state-centric. Nobody here in Melbourne cares that ANU is 'ranked' higher than Melbourne/Monash, and I can assure you that graduates from there will not be preferenced just for that reason alone.

Assuming you want to work in the large commercial firms, sell your soul to the firm and get $75k/year as your starting pay, both Melbourne and Sydney offer good opportunities. Sydney has perhaps more banking, finance, M&A jobs, whereas Melbourne will have more employment, trade practices, IP work. I was in your position about 6-7 years ago, I went to Monash, did my PR thing and am employed in a reputable mid-sized Melbourne firm now.

Good luck.



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People thinking of doing a double degree would like to seriously reconsider. It is not easy, and if you're anything like me you end up with a split personality. None of my law friends get XKCD, and none of my IT friends understand me anymore when I think a 2000 word essay is "short".


thanks for the info alsree and haya
But my aspiration is to be a lawyer and i really hope to be able to practice in aussie. haya are u doing combined degree of law and other disciplines too?If you are, I was wondering if you do any vacation clerkships? Which uni are u from? just curious.
I heard U Syd is one of the best law schools around.

btw UAI and TER is the same thing right?

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post Nov 5 2008, 10:46 PM

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hey hey ! if spm cincai study den get sucky result.
den enroll into a australia college then study with all my heart and soul and get a TER of 99.2
will i be able to be accepted into good australia universities like U SYD or UNSW?
will the universities demand to see my spm slip?
hopefully not hahah
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post Nov 5 2008, 10:50 PM

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i also got the verification code issue zzzz
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post Nov 5 2008, 11:00 PM

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oh i see thanks for the info. so the universities wont see my SPM which means SPm is totally useless d right?

no its cause i m kinda sick right now. so not fit to study.
plus i use my spm trial to apply for tuart college dee and got enrollment.
now just waiting to see if i can get deir scholarship or not. i have to take TEE and not foundation because i would like a combine law degree from U SYD
i am just afraid dey might want to see my real SPm cert dats all
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post Nov 6 2008, 09:34 AM

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QUOTE(adrian7386 @ Nov 6 2008, 12:03 AM)
Anyone going to oz study next year?(penang)
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me me !~ but i am only going to perth for college. perth got leng lui ar???? ahaha wub.gif

QUOTE(mangoman)
Just take IB then. I took IB last time, usyd didnt even bother to look at my result, they offered me unconditional offer and i enrol in usyd even before my result came out.
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yeah i want IB too. but i want to do law and malaysia CLP doesn't recognize IB. unless i stay in aus to practice law.
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post Nov 6 2008, 11:35 AM

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walau meru chan . u change disply pics everyday????? zzz haha
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post Nov 6 2008, 03:45 PM

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hey. do all of u have haircut at aus? i dun wan to have long and bushy hair dere zzzz. or do some of u cut by urself. any tips? use da shaver or scissors? haha






QUOTE(Grimm @ Nov 6 2008, 03:38 PM)
Hah. They will look forward to seeing you too.

Jemput us at airport nonit pay kua >_>

Really got leng lui all over? Don't conn me wei. I kena conn how many times d. "Go college got many lenglui". "Go uni got many lenglui". "Wahhh I heard the place u going got many lenglui". My ass.
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i cant help but laugh when i looked at ur message haha.
hopefully we din kena con larrr.
i wonder if locals are prettier or internationals are prettier

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post Nov 6 2008, 04:15 PM

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QUOTE(ivango88 @ Nov 6 2008, 03:58 PM)
common, of coz white chick are prettier, compare paris hilton and amber chia... then you will know..
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yea i get what u mean. but theres still very hot asians around zzzz.
lets hope australia guys aren't so good looking rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
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post Nov 6 2008, 05:28 PM

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QUOTE(b3ta @ Nov 6 2008, 05:08 PM)
lol sry dude, the white guys here are built. all got pecs n 6 packs 1

locals are hot especially the high schoolers
international uni students can be smokin hot too.
the thing about aussie is u get variety brows.gif aussies, koreans, viets, chinese, lebs brows.gif
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so all ur saying equals to hot HOT and HOTTER? right? hahahhaa boy am i looking forward to go study.

QUOTE(ivango88 @ Nov 6 2008, 05:12 PM)
lols... We got to learn from the pretty white chick to explore our self towards their culture for educational purposes... So it's still appropriate to be in this post...
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yes what do you think i was trying to do? get to know white pretty locals so that we can grasp their great civilization of course.
and through this way, asians and locals wont be like oil and water anymore.
we will be practically like peanut butter and sandwich. brows.gif
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post Nov 6 2008, 10:39 PM

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QUOTE(adrian7386 @ Nov 6 2008, 06:45 PM)
Oic...hey where u study now?coldblood.im study at clb now...what course u gonna choose?are u going to aus edu agency at pulau tikus to seek for ur uni?
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wads clb? sorry hehe. i am studying at chung ling. no i went to studylink. course? i dun have any alternatives because i applied canning tuart college scholarship. they only offer foundation and tee. i have to take tee as only matriculation is accepted by malaysian bar ( future). uni nid to wait if i can get 99.2 for TER den i want to apply for U SYD.
in between of course got see hot chicks larrrr haha and learn surfing. drool.gif

QUOTE(b3ta @ Nov 6 2008, 10:01 PM)
too bad la u know the thing about asian guys usually not being able to get the chicks...that might hold some water here
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ITS UP TO NEW GENERATION ASIANS TO PROVE THEM WRONG HAHAHA. we can go to universities gym everyday AND PUMP STEEL.
and face da mirror everyday TO PUMP CHARISMA.
plus our charming boyish asian smile.
we are chick magnets baby BWAHAHHAHHA rclxm9.gif


QUOTE(ivango88 @ Nov 6 2008, 10:16 PM)
argh b3ta, you shud hv let us dream about it first, then tell us the fact when we arrive... So that at least for now, we got sumthing to look forward beside the gigantic flies....
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ivango when u going? dun be down. if our dream got shattered there at least we are proud that we TRIED TO be friends with the locals???? ( strictly hot white females) tongue.gif

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post Nov 6 2008, 10:51 PM

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QUOTE(limeuu @ Nov 6 2008, 10:43 PM)
this thread is descending into a kopitiam type thread........you guys will have to decide whether you want to continue this way here (and make it difficult for newbies to find the serious and useful stuffs), or start another thread for such banter in kopitiam........
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sorry about the crapping ... will not repeat



how much exactly is a haircut in australia ( roughly )? do malaysian students normally go aussie and pay for haircuts? or normally people cut by themselves?

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post Nov 6 2008, 11:12 PM

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i see thanks for the info.
$15 ? yeah i guess its reasonable.
i try to cut myself first. if fail den only get professional help
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post Nov 7 2008, 12:21 AM

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QUOTE(BlueBerry~ @ Nov 7 2008, 12:14 AM)
Hmm. Just wondering, anyone enrolling in the WAUFP for next year? Specifically the one offered by Canning College.
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hey blueberyy. i will be going to tuart instead of canning next year. but i didnt take WAUFP i took TEE

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post Nov 7 2008, 09:21 AM

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QUOTE(BlueBerry~ @ Nov 7 2008, 12:50 AM)
Isnt the TEE program alot hard than the foundation one? My nephew/cousin or whatever relative took TEE once, couldnt cope up. Changed to WAUFP after one sem. The counsellors told her she dint need TEE anyway too.
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nope. TEE is like form 6 for locals which is matriculation lar. the subjects are roughly the same. what foundation have TEE also have. TEE have more subjects though. the only difference is english. TEE's english is harder while foundation english is easier. which means if u have good english, TEE is ok. plus if u study at tuart or canning u will be studying in the same class as WAUFP students so it's practically the same. just that when u take exam. i take TEE paper and u take foundation paper.

QUOTE(ivango88 @ Nov 7 2008, 02:31 AM)
Coming February... to melb. you are going to syd right...? well, I guess once I touch down, i will busy eying on white chick... lols..


no not going sydney. i will touchdown at perth first. then if results good only can get into sydney. melbourne is a great place for an eye candy

QUOTE(bhypp @ Nov 7 2008, 07:42 AM)
well no need crew cut wat......go to the shortest length on the clipper.....then u get hairstyle like wentworth miller aka michale scofield....i think alot of gurls like that.... rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif  and that $15 bucks can be spent elsewhere.... rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif
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what is a clipper?
i thought michale scofield is crew cut?

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post Nov 7 2008, 12:29 PM

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no1 going to tuart college, perth? haha. well at least i got a friend whos going with me.
lets all meet up in perth next year rclxms.gif
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post Nov 7 2008, 12:36 PM

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yeah we can form a LYN perth gathering zzzz.....
mythras are you a PR? cause ur going for YEAR 11 right? i am going for Year 12
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post Nov 7 2008, 12:38 PM

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i am under 18 zzzz.
i guess homestay because hostel dun have food ZZZ

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