Just got my 50PY800H. Compare to my 42PV60H, it's huge difference. Even color is better on the PY800H. And the best part is I can get 1:1 pixel scan at 1080p. I do a quick check using i1Pro and Cinema settings with warm color is the closest to D65 but the gamma curve is out at around 1.9. Best part is you can access the service menu in the PY800H (I can't do it on the old PV60H) to adjust the color temp to perfection. Didn't see any option to adjust gamma yet. If you are using 1080p, turn down the sharpness to 0. Anything more than that will generate artifacts on your screen. When I first received the unit, it's set at standard and normal color temperature and it hurts my eye to even look at the screen for more than 5 mins. With tune in color temp, it's more pleasing. No regrets getting this unit. Everything is so sharp.

For those who want to know how to access the service menu:

PLEASE DO NOT enter service menu if you don't know what you are doing. You can screw up your display. Luckily there should be an option in the menu to reset back to factory default.

1. Hold the channel down button on your TV (NOT remote).
2. Press the "Recall" button on your remote 3 times.
3. Release the channel down button.
4. Quickly switch to the HDMI input before the service menu show.
5. Press 1 or 2 to go through the service menu. On of the option is WB-ADJ (White Balance Adjustment). Use 3,4 for sub menu option. You can choose RGB cut/gain in this option. Usie vol up/down to change the value. Press OK to save the settings. Please note that you need to have a colorimeter or spectrometer to do White balance adjustment.

If anyone know how to tune the gamma curve, do let me know.

This post has been edited by pierreye: Sep 23 2008, 11:16 PM

I think plasma had no issue with gaming. Maybe even better as LCD is known to have problem on timing issue (due to internal processing which cause it to lag unless the unit come with gaming mode which will bypass the internal processing). Good choice for FPS or any game that need good timing. I don't have LCD TV but have a 24" DELL LCD monitor 2405. Color wise, I feel it's more vibrant than my 24" LCD. My old LCD monitor is 20ms response time so it's not a fair comparison.

Not sure cause nobody actually bother to measure response time for plasma. Should be as fast as CRT gua. Another plus for plasma is black level and native contrast better than LCD.

I'm not sure if you should copy my setting. Normally from tv to tv, there should be some differences even for the same model. I would advice you set to cinema picture mode and warm color temp first.

Anyway, here's my setting:

Press 9 to change WB-ADJ to cinema
Press 7 to change color temp to warm

R cut - 7A
G cut - 79
B cut - 81
R drive - FF
G drive - F9
B drive - 8C

For PC levels 0-255 use
Contrast 55
Brightness 60

For Video levels 16-235
Contrast 50
Brightness 52

Make sure you set aspect ratio to 16:9 so that you have an option in Setup menu to set overscan off (to get 1:1 pixel for 1080p).
Sharpness at 0

Good luck.

This post has been edited by pierreye: Sep 23 2008, 11:50 PM

yep. That's what ISF tuning do.

I take the pain 3 years ago to learn how to do proper adjustment to TV and projector cause I don't know anyone who is competent in Malaysia that can really do good tuning. Most of the thing I learn here is from avsforum. A lot of ISF certified calibrator sifu there.

One more thing, if you play game or watch cinema movie, you might want to turn off Intelligent Frame Creation. This option actually increase the lag and also make 24fps movie looks like video. Try out with it on and off to see which you prefer. I just try out casino royale and my first feeling is the motion is very smooth like watching 30fps video.

Some people are sensitive to phosphor decay. Try turn off Intelligent Frame Creation to reduce the lag. Another possible issue is your contrast is too high which cause the green phosphor do not have enough time to decay.

http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/news/plasma-phos...-2007040133.htm

This post has been edited by pierreye: Sep 24 2008, 10:04 AM

Pioneer and Hitachi had confirm dropping the plasma development so Panasonic would be the last panel manufacturer. In actual fact, Pioneer sell the Kuro technology to Panasonic and Panasonic will sell the manufactured panel back to Pioneer. This is cost cutting measurement.

Panasonic supporter. Don't shoot me.

I have Panasonic Inverter Fridge, Panasonic Microwave Oven, Panasonic Bayu Fan, Panasonic Plasma TV, Panasonic Inverter Air Con...

Sound bar - buy Yamaha
Universal Remote - buy Logitech Harmony

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[quote=pierreye,Sep 23 2008, 11:47 PM]
I'm not sure if you should copy my setting. Normally from tv to tv, there should be some differences even for the same model. I would advice you set to cinema picture mode and warm color temp first.

Anyway, here's my setting:

Press 9 to change WB-ADJ to cinema
Press 7 to change color temp to warm

R cut - 7A
G cut - 79
B cut - 81
R drive - FF
G drive - F9
B drive - 8C

For PC levels 0-255 use
Contrast 55
Brightness 60

For Video levels 16-235
Contrast 50
Brightness 52

Make sure you set aspect ratio to 16:9 so that you have an option in Setup menu to set overscan off (to get 1:1 pixel for 1080p).
Sharpness at 0

Good luck.


Pierreye,
just wanna reconfirm that R cut is 7A or 74 ?
Tq in advance.

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7A. I think all those green line and white line is due to edge noise. Overscan off is only when you have very clean source such as Blu-ray and PC.

Make sure you set the aspect ratio to 16:9. Goto menu --> setup. Then look for overscan and choose off.

Yamaha Sound bar for YST-4000 size is just nice for 42". 50" plasma would be longer than the sound bar. I get my YST4000 from AVE Sales and Services in Chai Ling park. Best price at RM 4500 + free one yamaha sub.

Yep. Stay in Penang island. If got time, can "chui shui" on AV stuff.

At least she can differentiate among composite, svideo and HDMI. Most of my female friends just give me a

S-video is the best you can get. Astro sucks on big tv.

No Astro for me. I download HDTV stuff from the NET. Mostly US HDTV broadcast and some HK series (now with HD version). Even 720p version look nice and sharp in 1080p unit.

This post has been edited by pierreye: Sep 25 2008, 11:28 AM

I turn off the Intelligent Frame Creation in the panasonic plasma and now my movie looks like movie. To me, 100hz is not a plus. How can you interpolate in between frame? You can't create something out from vacumn. That's why we are so particular on 1080p/24hz support. If it is 24 frame per second, then I want my tv to show it at 24 frame per second. Not 100 frame per second based on 100hz technology.

Note: Panasonic IFC = Samsung AMP = 100hz intermediate frame interporlation = bad... You can check out avsforum and a lot of pro turn off this offending technology. They also turn off automatic color management and dynamic contrast as it sometime make the movie worst. Native contrast would be the best.

This post has been edited by pierreye: Sep 26 2008, 10:25 AM

I think game mode they jack up the contrast/brightness and the gamma curve is out of whack. That's why it looks eye catching at first but after a while, you will feel that the color is not natural and the contrast is out.

Because pro are complete anal about getting the most color accurate as intended by director. There's no right or wrong. If you like it, keep it.

50" Full HD PY800 only around RM 9k (can get less than that if you got jalan). If you calculate screen size, it's worth it. I almost bought a 46" Samsung A650 LCD which is around RM 8k.