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 AMD® Socket-AM2&AM2+ Overclocking V10, ~overcooking ur proc here~

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post Sep 23 2008, 03:31 PM

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QUOTE(cdlim87 @ Sep 23 2008, 02:24 PM)
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aft i can tune the NB freq,, i OC my phenomx3 8450 to 2.46GHz..

everyting is stable nw,,.. mayb can OC more aft this...

but b4 that i need change my cpu cooler to make sure its temp not going too high..

since i use lousy casing,, i cnt use too big cpu cooler,, it will not fit for my casing(powerlogic futura 250)

but if i dun OC too much,i thk it will ok for me to oni add on side panel fan for it,,,(80mm&120mm)
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glad that there's improvement after d nb multi adjustment. mine stop when htt reach 255, hope u can fetch higher w/ ya chip. smile.gif

bkful w/ d volt even ya board can support 140w chips, 2 mosfets for each phase aint gud enuf for moderate oc imo... wink.gif

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post Sep 23 2008, 04:11 PM

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QUOTE(sarahlah @ Sep 23 2008, 03:49 PM)
ho ah_khoo.. thanks for the explanation..  notworthy.gif
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i did nothing but explain what's BAR is full bro... a simple google only... laugh.gif

life w/o phenom is free from h.ache, but i think i luv h.aches... tongue.gif

vista w/ single core athlon is really sweat.gif ... never imagine proc plays a big role even for normal activity like net surfin, movie watchin & etc in vista... doh.gif

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QUOTE(sarahlah @ Sep 23 2008, 04:22 PM)
eh.. when i using 3000+ s754 dont have any prob with vista..
gaming oso can.. witl 1gb of ddr ram..

i mean the fxb and gx thingy.. biggrin.gif
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really... hmmm... it could be driver issue then... coz i just plug & play d hdd w/o fresh install new os after chagin from 790gx to 690g... tongue.gif

lazy to install windows all over again... laugh.gif

as for fx vs gx thingy, it was my wild guess only bro... blush.gif

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QUOTE(sarahlah @ Sep 23 2008, 04:36 PM)
eh.. then u have 2 mobo driver on 1 hdd ?
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no, i didn't install any chipset driver since everything bootin fine... surprisingly i didn't even encounter any bsod upon my 1st boot... that's why i didn't bother to remove d gx chipset driver & install d 690g driver. mebe i should try that... i'm lazy too tweak my system. until i get my hands on b.e chip & fx board, for this moment, i'll just lay low... tongue.gif

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QUOTE(sarahlah @ Sep 23 2008, 05:02 PM)
be ? 9950 be isit ? or 9850 ?
wow~!!
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when d launch of deneb is near, even a 3.5GHz agena is nothing to brag about bro... i'll see how is d bonus thingy will go... most probably will go for a 9850 b.e, but if 9950 come cheap then i mite give it a go... smile.gif

QUOTE(OcGURU @ Sep 23 2008, 05:11 PM)
Whoaa...9950 tdp 140w / 9850 tdp 125w
bro ah khoo get the chip...let us know how far it goes hehe  notworthy.gif
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still a long way to go mate, i've just sold my phenom few days back but i feel it had been sold for weeks ledi... it's hard to downgrade, seriously... laugh.gif

QUOTE(-pWs- @ Sep 23 2008, 05:16 PM)
He just quit the oc world veri veri hard. laugh.giflaugh.gif

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ur rite bro... sad.gif

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QUOTE(sarahlah @ Sep 23 2008, 05:37 PM)
so far how's 98 n 99 can go on sb750 ?

and 1 more thing.. i thought the 45nm tdp gonna be lower.. but still around 95w..  hmm.gif
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3.3~3.4GHz w/ decent voltage (<1.5v) for gud batches. smile.gif

deneb offers better IPC & higher clock OC, which i think is ok. wink.gif
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QUOTE(AMDAthlon @ Sep 23 2008, 06:19 PM)
Ah khoo..Dont get those 9850/9950 ..Get Deneb instead biggrin.gif
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not possible unless it's cheap when it's launched. i thought u'll grab one coz ur d one who is really anticipated for it... be d lab mice for us, i'll still stick w/ agena at least for another half year... smile.gif

QUOTE(sarahlah @ Sep 23 2008, 06:33 PM)
4ghz ? wow.. but the vcore ?
deneb next year right ? still long way to go..
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yup, they are still nowhere to be seen when i upgrade in 2 ~ 3 months time... yawn.gif
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QUOTE(AMDAthlon @ Sep 23 2008, 11:51 PM)
Well..Its up to you guys.If you guys wait Deneb till Q2 09/Q3..We have to change to AM3 then and also DDR3 doh.gif
Deneb AM2+ doesnt last quite long..
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well, like this there'll be endless waitin game. when am3 launched, then one will say wait for its predecessors... for sure d new product will be better, but we can't just wait again & again if we're in hurry rite? smile.gif

QUOTE(cdlim87 @ Sep 24 2008, 12:44 AM)
i hvn try n oso dunoe hw far it can go.. ur is 255? using wat ram?

i ever try 300*8 to get 2400 sharp,, but cnt boot..lol..

i use kingstan value,, mayb oso not far can go..

erm..abt the voltage,, i oso dunoe hw care abt it .. any guides?
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so far i only managed to witness 1 phenom doin 300htt w/ 11*300 setup, impressive... it's a locked phenom (9750), which is d same batch as my ex phenom 9550 > 0810GPAW. too bad mine can't reach as far as that... sad.gif
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bro xixo, pls update this link for guide on phenom oc, i found it very useful... big credit to tony from ocz a.k.a big toe... smile.gif

http://www.thetechrepository.com/showthread.php?t=258

source : The Tech Repository

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QUOTE(sarahlah @ Sep 24 2008, 09:45 PM)
nice find bro ah_khoo..  notworthy.gif

btw guys, 1 question here.. if i' pair up fxb board and F3, will there any benefit for me ?
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probably higher oc & less volt needed... wink.gif
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QUOTE(xixo_12 @ Sep 24 2008, 10:01 PM)
later will update.. 
menchelsea.. i saw.. laugh.gif gud luck
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thx bro... notworthy.gif

QUOTE(sarahlah @ Sep 24 2008, 10:09 PM)
@ah_khoo
will the board suit newbie like me ? coz the bios is more advance and seems like interesting to me.. but only using F3..

@MENCHELSEA
aha bro.. relax.. u just need to tweek the pc to get the fastest spi result.. go get some training.. gud luck~!!  thumbup.gif
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me lagi noob bro, i just read more so that my hard brain cells can absorb more (sign of agin)... laugh.gif

u just need to get familiar w/ d bios, as simple as that... visit xs or rebel hevens more then u'll learn things faster... wink.gif

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post Sep 25 2008, 02:49 PM

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QUOTE(8tvt @ Sep 25 2008, 12:46 PM)
yes.. phenom same speed like brisbane will be 10-20% faster..

so if can clock till 3ghz.. the speed like 3.5ghz now..
3.5ghz becoming 4ghz... so enough edy..

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Added on September 25, 2008, 12:49 pmmaybe ah_khoo waiting for this.. haha
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nah... quad core more fun bro... laugh.gif

QUOTE(xixo_12 @ Sep 25 2008, 12:51 PM)
it's time to great superPi under air cooling laugh.gif
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super pi addict... sweat.gif doh.gif shakehead.gif tongue.gif
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post Sep 26 2008, 12:09 AM

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my 1st single core am2 lame oc... tongue.gif

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QUOTE(cdlim87 @ Sep 26 2008, 12:26 AM)
1na get some opinion...
i js use phenomx3 8450 near a month,, if i change proc to AMD X2 5000+ AM2 Black Edition.. it will more nice to oc,, but its ok? consider down gred..?
who can tell tell performence b/tween 8450 n 5000+ BE,,..
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i'll stick w/ phenom if i were u. no doubt figures are nice to have, but playin w/ phenoms give u more fun & challenge. my 2 cents thou... smile.gif

QUOTE(xixo_12 @ Sep 26 2008, 12:26 AM)
fuiyoh.. low vcore.. maybe can push until 3ghz.. brows.gif
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spare it bro... low vcore but low clock also... ya le is d real thing for oc, this 3500+ is nothing only... laugh.gif
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QUOTE(xixo_12 @ Sep 26 2008, 08:31 AM)
i know.. it's not like LE proc.. so cant expect more.. but at least u have sumthing to play.. tongue.gif
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yalor... 2.6GHz need more voltage, so i'm happily settled @ 2.5GHz... smile.gif

wish i have a LE to play w/... never got d chance to play w/ chips w/ 1MB L2 cache... sad.gif
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just got a 5600+, too bad it's a CCB6F, not CCB8F... sad.gif

not so impressive after i've check d exact same steppin in xs... 3.1GHz w/ 1.44v is quite disappointin... doh.gif
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QUOTE(xixo_12 @ Sep 26 2008, 05:23 PM)
aik another proc.. maybe u shud try first to oc.. wanna see , maybe different brows.gif
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but usually d same batch will clock almost d same or worse... sweat.gif

neway, d torture will only start late nite or mebe tomorrow morning... later got date... wub.gif

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QUOTE(xixo_12 @ Sep 26 2008, 05:31 PM)
ceh.. make me jeolous.. ah_khoo will never stop to overclock.. brows.gif  nod.gif
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u got gf oso wat bro, wat to jealous about? shakehead.gif

QUOTE(MENCHELSEA @ Sep 26 2008, 05:38 PM)
Yet another proc.  brows.gif
an Overclocker , always an Overclocker  tongue.gif
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nah... i'm too old for that, i just enjoy tweakin amd chips, as simple as that bro... smile.gif

QUOTE(cdlim87 @ Sep 26 2008, 07:40 PM)
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cnt la,, u can c my rig spec.. using kinston value ram oni... cnt OC too much 1,,
i oledi try,, 245 oledi cnt boot,, 240 still ok..
if 240x10.5 oni 2.52GHz oni,..
if really 1na push,mayb wait ltr i buy cpu cooler n change to performance ram 1st rclxms.gif 
if not use 2.5GHz oni lor.. blink.gif
aft c u all de comment,, i thk i will stick with my x3.. smile.gif
it really more chalenge to oc..,, still nid consider NB bside HT...
and the DRAM calculation oso totally diff frm x2..
or in other word say quite tough to oc.. tongue.gif  but nice to try...
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fyi, i was usin value ram when i owned a phenom system. wink.gif

what bro digswell said could be rite, d BAR Edit only effective when windows is loaded, but when u power up ya rig, d nb multi will still be at its max, that'mite b d reason why u can't boot. why not u try cpu multi @ 10 (or lower) to check whether 245 is ya htt wall. smile.gif

QUOTE(digswell @ Sep 26 2008, 07:58 PM)
Can use other ram speed divider  like 667 or 533 if u really wan to push higher ...i think ur problem is no the ram but is the n/b freg  multiplier.
Bout the n/b freg u better ask bro ah_khoo

Might  post ur oc SS with ram tab together
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yup, one can always use lower divider to find out waht's d culprit. in my case b4, i used ddr400 (lowest) as i found that my chip didn't like low divider, especially 533... doh.gif

QUOTE(cdlim87 @ Sep 26 2008, 09:14 PM)
nono.. act i oledi tune my NB&HT to keep at around 1800(default) and ram around 800(default)..
eg: if i use bus speed 300,, thn
1. cpu>> x8 = 2400
2. NB/HT>> x6= 1800
3. memory clk>> x2.66= 789

frm the theory this should b a stable value,, but it fail to boot..
by using the same concept,, i apply to lower bus speed like 255,250,245
thats all oso cnt be boot,, oni can boot for 240..

finally i use 238... smile.gif
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can u try 10*245 with ddr400 on ya ram? biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(cdlim87 @ Sep 27 2008, 12:24 AM)
mean if using BAR Edit sure will cnt OC too high speed lor,,
NB&HT at default it is x9 ,,if 245 mean NB will be 2286 to boot,, mayb this is the wall for MB.... this proc i thk wil go further if the NB can control in BIOS..

but really no idea with ASUS M3A78-EM... cnt tune NB in bios... sad.gif

whn i using BAR Edit it make my rig spend quite much time for startup aft enter window...
mayb wait for bios update will help this..?? ASUS fast help me..!!!!!!
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it's d initialization thingy i supposed, as long as it's not makin ya system hang/bsod & serve d purpose, it won't hurt wait a 'lil... nod.gif

i believe 780g not meant for oc, even thou they come with better sb in sb700... smile.gif

QUOTE(ameque @ Sep 27 2008, 12:46 PM)
yealor i always thought that high fsb would bring better results.. its the total core speed thats important rite?
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yup... but one can always balanced out d higest clock & highest mem speed... wink.gif

QUOTE(AMDAthlon @ Sep 27 2008, 01:02 PM)
For Intel yes better FSB.But now we dont need high HTT because the HT Link already helps boost the performance of FSB..
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there's no fsb nemore in amd bro... smile.gif
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d new chip was a let down... 3.0GHz w/ 1.34v aint a positive thing... sumore d temp is... sweat.gif

but at least now i don't fell lagginess in web browsin, movie watchin... d 1MB L2 cache is d only consolation i get... sad.gif

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