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TSSR20
post Sep 1 2008, 09:25 PM, updated 18y ago

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hi all,


i want to ask,

lowered Sport spring + original absorber
Original spring + sport adsorber

Do they have different on such a matching? which one better in terms of improve handling and maintain comfortable? hmm.gif hmm.gif
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post Sep 1 2008, 09:49 PM

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a long time ago, the best COMPROMISE for comfort and handling was said to be the Koni absorbers + Eibach springs.. im not sure if its still the same thing said today...

and imho....no such thing as handling + comfort...pick one or the other...its either handling OR comfort...no such thing for both.
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post Sep 1 2008, 10:04 PM

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QUOTE(SR20 @ Sep 1 2008, 09:25 PM)
hi all,
i want to ask,

lowered Sport spring + original absorber
Original spring + sport adsorber

Do they have different on such a matching? which one better in terms of improve handling and maintain comfortable? hmm.gif  hmm.gif
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post Sep 2 2008, 02:04 AM

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QUOTE(SR20 @ Sep 1 2008, 09:25 PM)
hi all,
i want to ask,

lowered Sport spring + original absorber
Original spring + sport adsorber

Do they have different on such a matching? which one better in terms of improve handling and maintain comfortable? hmm.gif  hmm.gif
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yes... there is difference...

lowered Sport spring + original absorber = bumpy ride, lowered...
Original spring + sport adsorber = stiffer ride, but not much lowered...

it is recommended to change both lowered spring and sport absorber... no it wont maintain the same comfort level.... stiffer ride is guaranteed.... pairing with good absorber will reduce the bumpiness.....
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post Sep 2 2008, 02:32 AM

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Erm, I heard that Titan is quite well known for good handling and comfort. You can try, somemore Titan's absorber has quite high second value. If I have $$$, I would have bought it.
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post Sep 2 2008, 02:39 AM

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post Sep 2 2008, 02:53 AM

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QUOTE(DaViDcHiN @ Sep 2 2008, 02:32 AM)
Erm, I heard that Titan is quite well known for good handling and comfort. You can try, somemore Titan's absorber has quite high second value. If I have $$$, I would have bought it.
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agree.... unker richard will custom the absorber for u till u satisfied... 1 year waranty free service and readjust damping rate... price is kinda expensive lar... can fight with tein adi... sweat.gif
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post Sep 2 2008, 09:40 AM

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QUOTE(the_catacombs @ Sep 2 2008, 02:04 AM)
yes... there is difference...

lowered Sport spring + original absorber = bumpy ride, lowered...
Original spring + sport adsorber = stiffer ride, but not much lowered...

it is recommended to change both lowered spring and sport absorber... no it wont maintain the same comfort level.... stiffer ride is guaranteed.... pairing with good absorber will reduce the bumpiness.....
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o i c....thanks for comment..smile.gif


Added on September 2, 2008, 9:44 am
QUOTE(DaViDcHiN @ Sep 2 2008, 02:32 AM)
Erm, I heard that Titan is quite well known for good handling and comfort. You can try, somemore Titan's absorber has quite high second value. If I have $$$, I would have bought it.
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wan to ask...Titan is made of Germany ah....?


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post Sep 2 2008, 10:08 AM

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rsr ti2000, best for perodua car..but it cost arm and leg

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tips for finding spring, look at the amount of coil, the more coil the less bumpy it is..this kind usually come in progressive form and most of them have more coil than stock spring

be worried of short, little coil but thick spring, those are nightmare to your ass but provide real sporty handling..ur car will jump like takumi 86

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post Sep 2 2008, 10:44 AM

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QUOTE(the_catacombs @ Sep 2 2008, 02:04 AM)
yes... there is difference...

lowered Sport spring + original absorber = bumpy ride, lowered...
Original spring + sport adsorber = stiffer ride, but not much lowered...

it is recommended to change both lowered spring and sport absorber... no it wont maintain the same comfort level.... stiffer ride is guaranteed.... pairing with good absorber will reduce the bumpiness.....
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can the ori spring fitted into sport absorber in the 1st place? even if can, the spring was already compressed until only 30~40% room left for the coil and recoil action :sweat:
pairing short stroke with sport spring ensure longer lifespan, but how long is long i dont know but some of mai buyer pair sport spring with ori spec absorber, some last more than 1 year :nod:
oh ya, the differences is hardly noticeable when u pair sport spring with normal and short stroke
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post Sep 2 2008, 10:48 AM

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QUOTE(imperialrealcs @ Sep 2 2008, 10:44 AM)
can the ori spring fitted into sport absorber in the 1st place? even if can, the spring was already compressed until only 30~40% room left for the coil and recoil action :sweat:
pairing short stroke with sport spring ensure longer lifespan, but how long is long i dont know but some of mai buyer pair sport spring with ori spec absorber, some last more than 1 year :nod:
oh ya, the differences is hardly noticeable when u pair sport spring with normal and short stroke
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i saw GAB got the sport absorber that can pair with original spring ( so is not short stroke), so in this case if compare to lowered spring with ori absorber..duno which one better :P

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post Sep 2 2008, 10:57 AM

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QUOTE(SR20 @ Sep 2 2008, 10:48 AM)
i saw GAB got the sport absorber that can pair with original spring ( so is not short stroke), so in this case if compare to lowered spring with ori absorber..duno which one better :P
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if u want pair with original spring better get apm peformax or improve comfort

at my place many ppl pair sport spring with improve comfort with good result
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post Sep 2 2008, 11:08 AM

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QUOTE(SR20 @ Sep 2 2008, 10:48 AM)
i saw GAB got the sport absorber that can pair with original spring ( so is not short stroke), so in this case if compare to lowered spring with ori absorber..duno which one better :P
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ya, it is posibble but why? you are compressing the spring so much that it doesnt work as it should be

QUOTE(athlonxp @ Sep 2 2008, 10:57 AM)
if u want pair with original spring better get apm peformax or improve comfort

at my place many ppl pair sport spring with improve comfort with good result
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frankly speaking, no such thing as pair A and B to get best result or so to say..
its more like personal taste, juz like some like plain coke, salt coke, or lemon coke but every taste favours different people lo..
for a more factual comparison:
i installed full set absorber A front and rear gas on my car.. but i think the rear is too stiff so i changed to B (which claimed to be softer for rear only and it suits my preference
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QUOTE(athlonxp @ Sep 2 2008, 10:57 AM)
if u want pair with original spring better get apm peformax or improve comfort

at my place many ppl pair sport spring with improve comfort with good result
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i saw improve absorber selling, sound not bad

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GAB one:

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price around same, duno which one better, by the way i drive iswara :)


Added on September 2, 2008, 11:10 am
QUOTE(imperialrealcs @ Sep 2 2008, 11:08 AM)
ya, it is posibble but why? you are compressing the spring so much that it doesnt work as it should be
frankly speaking, no such thing as pair A and B to get best result or so to say..
its more like personal taste, juz like some like plain coke, salt coke, or lemon coke but every taste favours different people lo..
for a more factual comparison:
i installed full set absorber A front and rear gas on my car.. but i think the rear is too stiff so i changed to B (which claimed to be softer for rear only and it suits my preference
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ic, at the end we have to test and try ourself to see what myself really want... :)

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post Sep 2 2008, 11:14 AM

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QUOTE(SR20 @ Sep 2 2008, 09:40 AM)
wan to ask...Titan is made of Germany ah....?
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made in malaysia...

QUOTE(imperialrealcs @ Sep 2 2008, 10:44 AM)
can the ori spring fitted into sport absorber in the 1st place? even if can, the spring was already compressed until only 30~40% room left for the coil and recoil action :sweat:
pairing short stroke with sport spring ensure longer lifespan, but how long is long i dont know but some of mai buyer pair sport spring with ori spec absorber, some last more than 1 year :nod:
oh ya, the differences is hardly noticeable when u pair sport spring with normal and short stroke
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ori springs can fit into short stroke absorbers.... it will only reduce the height a little bit as overall height of the car is still supported by the oem spring itself...

QUOTE(imperialrealcs @ Sep 2 2008, 11:08 AM)
ya, it is posibble but why? you are compressing the spring so much that it doesnt work as it should be
frankly speaking, no such thing as pair A and B to get best result or so to say..
its more like personal taste, juz like some like plain coke, salt coke, or lemon coke but every taste favours different people lo..
for a more factual comparison:
i installed full set absorber A front and rear gas on my car.. but i think the rear is too stiff so i changed to B (which claimed to be softer for rear only and it suits my preference
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yeap.... ride comfort is more towards driver's preference... some prefers it to be stiff.... some prefer it to be jumpy/bouncy.... its a vr subjective matter....
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post Sep 2 2008, 11:20 AM

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I am using APEX Sport Spring + Improve Comfort for my SEG 1.6.
Good balance between comfort level and stiffness. Give it a try.
Note* I did add spring washer so it will be much higher. 4 finger gab front and back. woot.
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QUOTE(HKNP @ Sep 2 2008, 11:20 AM)
I am using APEX Sport Spring + Improve Comfort for my SEG 1.6.
Good balance between comfort level and stiffness. Give it a try.
Note* I did add spring washer so it will be much higher. 4 finger gab front and back. woot.
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for AE101, to make it lower you can use AE92 absober mounting, 1/4 inch shorter..front only..rear no diffrent between 92 and 101

wat is spring washer?


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QUOTE(the_catacombs @ Sep 2 2008, 02:53 AM)
agree.... unker richard will custom the absorber for u till u satisfied... 1 year waranty free service and readjust damping rate... price is kinda expensive lar... can fight with tein adi... sweat.gif
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I thought is 2 years warranty?

QUOTE(SR20 @ Sep 2 2008, 09:40 AM)
o i c....thanks for comment..smile.gif


Added on September 2, 2008, 9:44 am

wan to ask...Titan is made of Germany ah....?
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I saw in their website, it seems that it is a Malaysian brand.
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post Sep 2 2008, 04:02 PM

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I am currently running stock Kayaba Absorbers with R3 springs...
very nice & comfy. not very well on wavy roads but on flat road it pawns.
Highly recommended with short stroke absorbers (GAB, Kayaba, Monroe)

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