Since this thread has been moved outside of the iPhone subforum, I hope it wouldn't be inappropriate for me to re-post something that I've already posted there. I believe this whole personal feud between ianho & string started off with a post ianho made, which is included in my post hidden in the spoiler below:
QUOTE(ianho @ Aug 22 2008, 04:31 PM)
Harlo,
there's no reason to be nasty to every question you dont see fit to answer. You do not own this forum ya.
If you dont like certain questions, you DO NOT have to answer, simple as that. I've noticed this behaviour from you quite a few times already and many ppl have PMed me about it.
Not eveybody knows everything and a forum is for sharing. Some people like me play with almost all forms of electronics and there r still many things we have not learnt or have not realised because we are too bz playing with so many things.
Please tell me you know absolutely everything about everything b4 you come out with answers such as "keep up with the program" and such. What is LYN for if every fella like you just says "pls go Wiki", "pls go google".
I'll just repeat this again, if there are questions that happen to hurt your eyes or intellect, or whatever reason, DO NOT ANSWER it. Ever heard of the right called "u have the right to remain silent"? You certainly have the right to remain silent but
not the right to abuse people you deem to be "noobs".
I would definitely have to agree with this, especially the parts in bold. Below are two of my previous posts from another thread, the message is the same.
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QUOTE(lailaikatong @ Aug 19 2008, 07:56 AM)
@othersIf you don't have anything nice to say, don't post. The flaming culture in here sickens me more than newbies asking repeated questions. mnim82 asked a simple question that could easily be answered by all of you iPhone 'professionals'. mnim82 also actually bothered to write proper sentences and ask in a polite manner, which rarely happens in here. Just because someone has fewer posts than you doesn't mean you have the right to flame them. 1 well structured, clearly written post is better than 1000 flames.
QUOTE(lailaikatong @ Aug 19 2008, 09:42 AM)
Not really arguing. Just making people more aware. Flaming has its repercussions.
I don't know if you guys have noticed it but:
1) Flaming/assuming gives an unwelcome feeling and as a result it drives away genuine, potentially contributing newbies.
2) Flaming newbies with bad netiquette just adds fuel to the fire, as they are terrible to begin with so they'll just reply your flames with more unnecessary posts.
3) Flaming drives away the true contributors, as it gives a trashy feeling to the forum. Won't mention names but some great Apple Byte forumers have been posting less and less.
Don't trash this place. Like I've said before, if you don't have anything nice to say don't post. Ignore the repeated threads instead of BUMPing them up with your rants, and eventually they'll just be buried under the depths of the forum.
There's no need to be nasty to newbies. You may not realize it stringfellow but a considerable amount of your posts have become very immature in nature & filled with personal attacks. I didn't expect that these kinds of posts would come from you, coz you're very knowledgeable and a lot of your posts are actually very very contributive. Knowing a lot is very good, but it does not give you the right to be nasty to the new ones. Don't go saying I'm new here I don't know how it feels like (which has repeatedly been your excuse to be rude). I know what it's like. Repeated threads suck. I just ignore them. Please lah. The people at Genius Bars know a whole lot more than you, I'm sure they face newbies all the time and get bombarded with repeated questions day in day out. Do they have the right to be rude? NO.
MODERATORS, in my opinion you guys should react more promptly when repeated threads pop up. You'll have to be firm with the newbies as well. Point them to the relevant threads, then delete the repeated ones. The merge function is also there. If you guys leave it as it is the so called 'professionals' would just flame, flame, and keep on flaming.
Everyone here: moderators, 'professionals', newbies, should check out the rules and regulations at MacTalk Australia.Allow me to quote several parts that I think would be applicable here in LYN:
QUOTE(lailaikatong @ Aug 19 2008, 09:42 AM)
The MacTalk Forum Golden Rules
Keep these pearls of wisdom in mind when compiling your insightful, informative and educational post on the MacTalk forums:
Rule 1: Treat others with the same respect and dignity that you would expect back.
Rule 2: Extend your respect to the whole community by making quality posts and threads after carefully searching the forums, keeping the community's standards high and the feeling positive and helpful.
Rule 3: Take your MacTalk experience in a positive light, even when people are negative and unhelpful.
Now read on to get some more specifics on what you should do and what you shouldn't do on the forums.
PLEASE DO this stuff on the forums
- Do read all the posts in a thread before replying. Everyone hates it when you ask a question that's already been answered.
- Do search the forums before you post about something unless you're certain it hasn't been posted before. If a thread already exists about something you want to talk about - add to it instead of starting your own.
- Do check your facts before you post. We are pretty tolerant of being incorrect as we all make mistakes, but it's better to be correct in the first place and not look stupid.
- Do report posts you see that you think break the rules, are duplicates or just something you think we should know about. It's MUCH better to report the post than to publicly alert everyone to it. Click this button on the post in question: a forum leader will get this message and act upon it. Easy!
PLEASE DON'T DO this stuff on the forums
- Don't be abusive, rude, inflammatory or personally attack people, no matter how stupid or wrong they seem to you. It's the Internet man, calm down.
- Don't make pointless "me too" or "lol" posts. Unless you're contributing to the discussion, just enjoy reading it. Post whoring to get your count up to get access to the trading forum or some sense of importance via your post count is not tolerated either. Grow up or go to eBay.
- Don't talk about software piracy. Don't ask for serial numbers. Don't ask for cracks or links to download software. That's illegal silly.
- Last of all - do what we say. If a moderator or admin asks you to stop posting all those pics of giant phalluses, or flaming the new guy cause he thought the iPhone would send MMS, well, damn you, we mean it! We're tolerable and human and doing a job. We don't do things just to spite you (well, only sometimes if we REALLY hate you). If you have any issues with how you've been treated on MacTalk, feel free to contact us via email or PM and we can explain to you in detail, or even change our minds if you convince us we were wrong. Don't go posting on the forum whinging - we hate that too.
I'm not saying that I'm perfect. I wouldn't be surprised if someone here would dig through my past posts and find some faults, quote that post, and say 'practice what you preach'. In fact I'm expecting it already, based on how things have been going in here. Happy hunting.
May Apple Byte and its iPhone sub-section be a better place.
-lailaikatong-
Moderator ianho, is now actively denying my posts from being posted. He is deleting every post that had his actions exposing his childish acts of belittling Terapox during his attempts at reviving his iPhone. This is the post I'm trying to post, which he constantly deletes to stop people from knowing his wrongdoings.
which resulted in people joining in the fun YOU INSTIGATED, while happily watching the guy suffer in his failures of fixing his iPhone.
Not until Nokia had come in and put YOU, A MODERATOR, in your place, by teaching you not to pick on the poor guy, that you had stopped your chidings.
NOW, who the hell should have the right to remain silent here and not to abuse people YOU DEEMED AS EASY PICKINGS?Idiot.
Great example we have as a moderator here.
Stringfellow, you aren't being a very good example either. His childish acts? Yes, indeed they were childish. But your acts are equally as childish. There's been many more instances where you picked on newbies. The respect you've gained by doing noble things such as the tumpang thread has lead you to act like a condescending alpha-male in the iPhone section. You are one of the major flamers in there, and the others are starting to follow suit as well.
I do hope that here I am, JUST ANOTHER USER, putting you in your place by making you realize what you've been doing, would make you stop your chiding.
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