I'm interested.

^ that's very informative.. it's good to have detailed explanation rather than just saying BALANCED diet.. if the smoothie has already been tested, i guess it has cleared all doubts.. ps/ should said so from the beginning..

difference person have difference opinion.  the balanced freah is feed to rc, ww n robos for yrs without problem.  as crazymouse said b4, its always say feeding hamster will cos diarrhea. but smoothie hv prove than there is not diarrhea.

i hope you can get the real prove b4 u post the statement up.

edit: i guess i better put it up here.

i think i do it here. so newbie can see also.

this diet is feeding on all hamster for yrs.  the only difference is i blended it n easy for everyone to keep the blended food rather keeping the whole veges n fruits. this is explain n into in my wts about how Nutri-smoothie come.  and there is no problem with the ww rc n robos eating this diet set for yrs.
it is same on feeding fresh. why most of the info say canot feed too much fresh, it will cos diarrhea? cos there is no one leading to feed the BALANCED fresh diet.  that is why diarrhea can happen.  ppl who feed smoothie to their hamster can prove on this. if their hamster diarrhea?

if u ONLY feeding fruits to RC of cos they get sick, even human take too much appless can get sick.  every diet in about BALANCED, that is why i always CAP LOCK the word BALANCED.

it's not wrong to question anyone's products.. if the person has faith in it, he/she can reply me directly & tell me i'm wrong & provide details.. unfortunately there are also other ppl who dont know anyth & straight away rush to defend her..

^ that's very informative.. it's good to have detailed explanation rather than just saying BALANCED diet.. if the smoothie has already been tested, i guess it has cleared all doubts.. ps/ should said so from the beginning..

difference person have difference opinion.  the balanced freah is feed to rc, ww n robos for yrs without problem.  as crazymouse said b4, its always say feeding hamster will cos diarrhea. but smoothie hv prove than there is not diarrhea.

i hope you can get the real prove b4 u post the statement up.

edit: i guess i better put it up here.

i think i do it here. so newbie can see also.

this diet is feeding on all hamster for yrs.  the only difference is i blended it n easy for everyone to keep the blended food rather keeping the whole veges n fruits. this is explain n into in my wts about how Nutri-smoothie come.  and there is no problem with the ww rc n robos eating this diet set for yrs.
it is same on feeding fresh. why most of the info say canot feed too much fresh, it will cos diarrhea? cos there is no one leading to feed the BALANCED fresh diet.  that is why diarrhea can happen.  ppl who feed smoothie to their hamster can prove on this. if their hamster diarrhea?

if u ONLY feeding fruits to RC of cos they get sick, even human take too much appless can get sick.  every diet in about BALANCED, that is why i always CAP LOCK the word BALANCED.

it's not wrong to question anyone's products.. if the person has faith in it, he/she can reply me directly & tell me i'm wrong & provide details.. unfortunately there are also other ppl who dont know anyth & straight away rush to defend her..

lol a lot repeating post neh..

Hehe, of coz it was boiled... but they juz grabbed one, sniffed, and throw away. Damn swt~~

lol...they don't eat boiled eggs? I thought they do...

i think delikate sandbath will b good.. ppl do use oth brands and so far no complaint bout it..
dilemma?

man, u guys are wayy too sensitive. she was just giving a statement on her opinion and also what she heard from hun. no need to start ganging up on her like that.

if it was some newbie that ask that, im sure we'd reply it nicely that the smoothie has been good so far to our hamsters. then again, most of us only hv syrians and WWs, not RCs.

simple statement become such a controversy

who here keeps Russian Campbell hamsters?

Russian Campbell i got 2

do u feed them with smoothie?

well, crazymouse told me that RCs cannot eat the smoothie.. which i agree as well.. so if anyone got RC, cannot give smoothie lor (sorry for being so direct)

Wah, hamster smoothie war. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion with anything, but the RC is genetically prone to diabetes and feeding any fruits or veggie high in sugar should be avoided. This includes carrots, apples, corn, mango, watermelon, etc.

Our stock of winter whites are also not 100% considered pure and many petshops/mills etc tend to mix RC and WWs together, so some wws may have campbell blood, which makes them more susceptible to diseases RCs are prone to, likewise vice versa. Puddings wws are a suspected product of mixed genes so they may be more susceptible to certain diseases or genetically prone to either species of RC or WW. I did have a pair of puddings and they were OBESE even though I didn't really feed them much sweet stuff other than their staple.

Hamsters from Malaysia aren't the same as from Singapore. Here the quality of the hamsters are not as good as from Singapore. We don't even see solid blacks or silver greys for syrians. Mostly cinnamons, some black eyed creams, goldens, red eyed creams, sables. Our Malaysian stock is profusely inbred and kept in poor conditions, so perhaps comparing keeping hamsters in Singapore to keeping in Malaysia may not be the best.
Like for example the dosage/amount of feeding fruits/veggies etc.

A reputable breeder who is also the chief judge for hamster shows in California which specializes in RCs did state that we should avoid feeding any fruits or veggie with is high in sugar to RCs. We're not saying it will succumb to diabetes, but this is stated to diminish the likelihood of the hamster getting diabetes.

Hamsters from US are different. They are heavy bodied, larger, basically bigger in terms of bone structure and body size. There they preserve their breeding lines and genetics well, here our stock is, as said before, inbred until they are almost half the size of US stock. So stating that it's ok for them to be bigger(horizontally), because hamsters in US are naturally bigger?

As a last note, I strongly advise caution with the use of 'Balanced' because nothing is really 100% balanced in terms nutrition. I'm curious to know, was a vet or nutritionist consulted during the creation of the product or was it all based on experience?

Crazymouse said her internet's down ATM, so she cant reply or anything.

yo..
obviously u're talking bout me lar.. u do always seem to accuse without any proof.. the hamster u bought from me is inbred? what a joke! u think i only have few hamsters in stock till i have no choice but to inbreed them ar? have u seen an inbred hamster before? do u know how inbred hamsters look like? google before u comment.. and who is lack of nutrition? when u bought from me, how old was the hamster? 1 month old, or barely there.. u go around & look at petshops or other ppl's hamsters.. whose hamsters are big sized at 1 month old? i can guarantee u that my hamsters are bigger in size than those in petshops..

if u do not agree that malaysian hamsters are of poor quality, that's up to u.. just go walk around all the pet shops if u're so free, & observe the hamsters condition there.. and where do u think us breeders get our stock from? even if we chose the best hamster from the petshop, it is still of poorer quality than overseas..

btw, ur Ebony that u dump to me is similar in size with my adult hamsters.. obviously Ivory is way way older than ur new hamster, not just 1 week difference.. did u actually ask the petshop owner how old is the hamster? no right? u can only estimate her age, which is not precise.. if u're not satisfied with the hamster u bought from me, why buy?

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Added on August 27, 2008, 11:16 pmwell in case ppl misunderstood the difference of fresh & fruits..
fresh veges i've no prob with that.. only fruits, and u guys should know why by now..

nezu, have u been accustomed to receiving compliments about ur smoothie, that u become agitated when u see 1 line of bad comment? we, the users, have no idea what are the proportions of ur so called BALANCED smoothie.. therefore, misunderstanding is easy to happen.. it would be good to list the fruits & veges used in the smoothie, not so that we can steal ur recipe (in case some ppl may think that way), but so that we know what we are feeding to the hamsters, not just based on hear-say..
u've repeatedly said that the smoothie wont make u earn money.. if that's so, why not just share ur recipe to others? instead u chose to not disclose it & continue selling..

about not feeding the smoothie to my hamsters, i dont think it's a must for me.. i have lots of hamsters and it would be unwise for me to spend on smoothie if i can make my own combination of fresh foods at a cheaper cost (cos no need to spend on tupperware & sticker labels).. also, i told u my problem regarding feeding the smoothie beforehand..

Reanne made an interesting point.. was a vet/nutritionist consulted?

        I'll bring my my own container to your house. Hahahahaha.....    

Wahlau...long time didnt come in here, how come become so furious.     

Aint this thread suppose to sharing ideas? your experience? pictures? happy hours with hamster?

Nezu spent time and money to research, tried and found a product which she think can help others, at least give her some credit on that.

You can create your own BALANCED food if you like to, with time spending researching it.

Well, her BALANCED product might suit her or some others need, but it just like medicine, might not good for some as well.

If you think tat the product gave problem to your hamster, then let her knows or dont use it. As simple as that.

No. I never buy any smoothies from her. I just lazy so I gave my hamster egg white, vege and fruit tat listed in the 1st page.

I bet some of you here dive too deeply with the love of your pet hence always want everyone to agreed or follow your idea.

I guess we all do "research" by googling or read thru Internet articles.

Don't you think those are collected ideas of people like us that spent time and experience with our lovely pets and posting it to share.

So, no one is absolute right or wrong unless he/she hold a phd in the field.

Let's show some love and share your hamster moment....     

Whats the comment for Woody Pet?? Saw petshack hamster SET A included that instead of BC...

I can't believe how much bean's conditioned improved by leaving the sandbath in the cage for a week!

Normally I leave it there for a while as recommended but she dare not bathe in fornt of me apparently

She...she looks very normal now except for minor baldness. Wow, so much different from the first time I see her. Good diet and sandbath helps.

I"ll take some pictures when the battery is done recharging

Oh ya sry nezu!!!!
I cant come for the gathering!!!!
Exam very near, gotta study
I ll ask Ander2 buy 2smoothie from u k?

Woody Pet very strong smell, stronger then those normal wood shaving bedding?