Y does the CS community seem to be getting smaller and smaller whereas other games such as COD4 and DOTA seem to be steadily getting more and more clans popping up and entering tournaments? and dont say cause cs is being "dominated". every game u play depends on the amount of time and dedication u put into it..DOTA is also being dominated yet there are alot more clans joining and giving a fight...this question has been bugging me...a few sideas of why this game is dying would help determine the problem and probably,hopefully, CS would grow again... thanks!

I am still playing CS.The reduce of popularity is because the same gameplay for years.

Well, it would grow, only if people start support ORIGINAL steam CS instead of playing on non-steam servers. For those who tend to play on steam, they'd know what it's like to have scrim and stuff whereas only a handful who plays on non-steam servers know how to scrim on their own 100 ping dedicated server, and obviously, they suck, no offence. Besides, ISP companies in msia should also provide services to create dedicated servers @ LOW COST BUT HIGH QUALITY.

as for me.. i stop playing cs since i start playing cod4. I tried to play cs again after a few months.. but damn, too much differences. I just love cod4 gameplay

forgot to add in.. yeah, there's a lot of factor beside new fps pooping up.. i dun think a lot malaysian buy original steam.. so when such people like me(i do have original cs 1.6 and css) move to another game.. the original server will suffer a little bit of losses lah.

Anyhow, it's gonna take years if cs is really gonna die.. as long as there's players.. there will be sponsors.. but i dunno wut happen if sponsor pull out from sponsoring cs tourney

This post has been edited by Beast-Slayer: Aug 21 2008, 04:13 PM

Well we did offer Dedicated servers for people to play but seems like unless it's non-steam no one wants to play on it. Kinda sad.

hmmm....in 2001 i used to play and there were alot more maps involved and every weekend or every 2 weeks there were tournaments to be played... either in cybercafes or major ones such as WCG and CPL..i feel that the "small-time tournaments" in cyber cafes every other week and the "bigger" pool of maps which consisted of at least 8maps kept people very much into the game..and they're were "house-hold names" such as FMJ, NTBD, PLAM, [E], EDTS, TEEN X, NKAA...these top teams kept to their clan names regardless whether they lost or won..where as now days players keep jumping from one team to another...there's no "loyalty" to the clan anymore and these teams keep changing their clan names every other tourney..thats sad you should be proud of the clan name...but yeah..coming back to it..i think more CC tourneys should be arranged..and more maps included rather then the normal 4..



I've tried COD4 and even though the graphics are good and all i feel its a little slow and there's not much you can do as there is "no money" system as there is in CS and that for me makes it a little boring..

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Added on August 21, 2008, 4:26 pmBut isnt steam what is being used in tourneys internationally?

This post has been edited by satay: Aug 21 2008, 04:26 PM

you like buying guns? you sound like a terrorist. lol.

but what difference is there, when in CoD4 you can change weapons and perks anytime you want?

and to answer ur earlier question... CS is old. too old. it's time to give a chance to a new game. also, FPS games are very skill oriented, CS is extremely skill dependent whereas CoD4 isn't so much (it still does just slightly less skill dependent) and DotA is much more focused on strategies and teamwork.

each game has its own advantages and CS has lost out.

Its been a long time i ve been playin CS and I stop playing it the moment i took up COD4. Why? King Kong has already stated the obvious. There really hasn't been any significant change to CS despite the many versions and also the latest CSS. I think the only way to revive the game is for the Valve or any other developers/modders to come out with a totally new CS to compete with the current FPS that are currently coming up. Otherwise, it will slowly but inevitably fade to become a dinosaur of yesteryears.

But i still do enjoy playing it once in awhile. Did ya guys watch CGS pan asia finals? The CS match was quite exciting lol

This post has been edited by xxWraitHxx: Aug 21 2008, 05:14 PM

well...CS is growing...only for CS Source (online).. i keep playing since CS beta 4...until now about to 10 years?? LOL COD4...i get bored when i unlock everything in multiplayer....CSS got alot of mods....but i can say in msia not much player..but SG...Taiwan..HK...China...bunch of them..can meet them too...and currently i'm in HK clan..hehe...interested?? PM me.. i reply ASAP...

FMJ, NTBD, PLAM, [E], EDTS, TEEN X, NKAA....

Damn...old skewl teams =D
nice if they still playing...

many have moved from CS/CSS to cod4 atm ^^

Even fusion.. well.. at least cod4 has something to unlock while cs.. er, buy weapon n shoot. As for me, cod4 is more challenging.. u can run, walk, climb buildings.. a lot of perks to choose to suit ur gamestyle.. well, doesnt mean that everybody should stop playing cs.. this is just an answer to the TS.. people play cs for casual not for gaming.. there are still a lot of cs clans out there, like i said.. it will take sometime for cs to eventually die if the developer do not introduce new gameplay n graphic for cs.

hellswarm.apa lagi..kita tak lama lagi jadi old school jugak lah : (
maybe we lyn cs players open one CS academy to train players like Jedi like that..lols

As long as WCG/ESWC/WGT includes 1.6,it wont die.

How i long for CPL to reach malaysia and make one qualifiers,phailed : (

Our Team 1 is busy with ACSL (Asian Counter-Strike: Source League). We're going to support CoD4 too. Hopefully we'll get a scrim
server up for training and recruitment.

This post has been edited by t3quila: Aug 21 2008, 07:10 PM

because when players cant make it in CS they switch games =(

i stil supporting cs as always...

cs must die

in game also must shot ppl till die if not lose

sure must die game

hahaha...not that old school =D

come play CS....damn bored...asyik play online oni..come play LAN hahaha =D

U make CS academy...i'll be the CEO...can? hehehe....

CS = Old game dated back to the 90's
CS : S = Same gameplay but with nicer graphics

Its obvious its gonna die unless theres something new in its gameplay

lol, no.

is not same gameplay....umbalakiki...u almost spam at every thread...tis is a thread of why is cs dying not must cs die thread....d*u

until now ppl stilling playing cs half life wad?

We still have LZ and hybrid what

i think it's because the lack of good cafes for cs fans to have friendly scrim. A lot of cafes are not gears setting friendly so it's very troublesome for us to use our own gears when we play. I've stopped cs because of this FMJ CAFE used to be my fav place for friday night lol

I play CS every saturday night with ma fren.

why cs dying? because its getting old..do not understand why ppl still play cs1.6 instead of moving on to CS:S or COD4 ...i feel COD4 is much better in terms of gameplay....cs1.6 graphics give me a headache....horibble graphics

cs creates alot of terorist like al qaeda pppl...

cs not good...

cs is getting old edi,can already go to hall of fame of the classic game,people move on to cod4 and other game,why would you want to stuck with the same game for the rest of your life??

same game creates terrorist...so he play this game to be terorist...no good...bad for country

.........means play violent game become a violent person la?
then dun play dota lor...later cast skil on ppl or use knife to hook ppl....more insane n bad compare to cs....

hmm....maybe

can say nowadays people aren't playing de_dust2 or wateva maps that are "proper" for CS.

I don't really mind about the graphics as long as the gameplay is good. Heck, I'd still play CoD4 in CS 1.6 graphics coz the gameplay is awesome.

hahah can can.I become owner only nothing too fancy

LAN gaming arh bestt. conclusion CS not dying yet.

For those who think CSS and 1.6 is the same,take a look at CGS cs and WCG cs.

Simply because its old. We don't see people playing PONG anymore do we? There is a saying in Chinese. "if the old doesn't go, the new will not come"

haha..

maybe 1 day CS will die...but not before Armageddon =D

lulz.i think we both sack of bones allready.

yeah CS is dying i guess... when hybrid and LZ starts to get their jobs. then thats it lor. for me i found new love through TF2. LOL!

Yes.

Sweet and short.

I blame DOTA....its all blizzard fault...

If its not DOTA, i believe most ppl will still play CS

is was not blizzard fault...is megablue aka icefrog....blizzard din make tis mod la....i dunno why every single dota dude though blizzard make dota.....really omfg...

Haha. Some ppl even thought DotA is a game by itself. They say, "I got DotA in my computer, but I dun have Warcraft 3." LMFO.

soccer is an old game too but people still play soccer

well.. cannot compare cs to soccer lor.. even soccer the graphic n gameplay is upgraded every year.. even tough not much hehe.. as for cs, there are a lot of factors.. if u r talking about fps.. u should realize that there are a few fps games that can challenge cs.. perhaps that one of the reason lar.. plus, yeah people seem to play dotard a lot..

geez.. d last time i played CS was many years ago.. nowadays in the office i can only afford the time (and secretly) play the 2D version.. only 8mb only, no nd to install maa.. can play direct from thumbdrive hehe

Well, it will be some time before dota suffer the same fate..but for now.. its all dota ..still ..dota dota dota dota ..i wonder what so fun about it..but..hell i been playing..weekly basis at CC...gosh...

This post has been edited by Haihzz: Sep 15 2008, 01:11 PM

Seriously? I started in Beta 3 and played often enough until 2005 or 6 before I lost interest in the game. I took it up again about 3 years ago then dropped it for CoD4.


You want to know why it's dying?

When was the last time someone in CS came up to me and said, "Eh? Want to play some CS? For fun only la..."

Never.

When was the last time someone is CS came up to me and said, "Don't worry about competitions. That's only if you're interested to go hardcore."

Never.

When was the last time someone in CS came up to me and said, "I think you have potential to play competitively, if you put in some effort and push for it you'll go places."

Never.

With that kind of elitist attitude community, how the hell does anyone expect the game to grow. Seriously. And I know what it's like to play competitively, 12 hours a day every day for 6 months. I threw away 2 years of my life playing the game back in school.

If the people who played CS, spent a little more time encouraging people and supporting, maybe CS wouldn't be bleeding itself out right now. Is there time to repair it? I don't know that's up to the guys who take it seriously. I take CoD4 seriously, it's part of MY life. So i make sure that when i see someone start and score 0-20 i walk up to them and say, "Don't worry, when i started, mine was 0-30." Just a little more effort does wonders. Be helpful and feed them all the basics even if he's not going to amount to anything, because that feeder may feed the game to other people and so on, and that's how a community grows.

Cheers people.

lolz....i hope some1 can open a cc which is about fps game..mainly cs...n can every year or half year organize compeition..tat wil be terrifict but i think i only can dream it but not realistic it...wanna open myself but no $$...^^'

play tf2 plz ;D

because the best mmorpg created by blizzard has taken over babeh.

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Added on September 15, 2008, 4:54 pmi doubt it, theres a campain editor in s2, and we will continue from there because a dota mod is possible, sooooo dota forever!

This post has been edited by Mindcry: Sep 15 2008, 04:54 PM

cs sucks.. cod4 rules..

hei where can i get the CS2d?

Well u guys have said pretty much what me and my friends also think our the reasons..but still i honesly believe it will still take sometime before CS dies...it still is the game to play with the most recognition WORLDWIDE..i think the main problem is that the CS community leading teams arent doing as much as the COD4 leading teams...but then again...it doesnt really have to as CS is in most(if not all) of the major tournaments..

I still think it'll take a very very long time for CS to die as its the game which is most skilled based...no offence to COD4 as i've tried it out but i think the skill a CS player has is easily adaptable to COD4 but NOT vice-versa.. i think more tourneys should be organized not only for CS but for all games! the e-sport in M'sia seems to be growing and we should hope it doubles itself in the up-coming years...and i honestly believe CS will be part of this tc..good luck to all gamers in up-coming competitions...and remember..hard work and self-belief always pays off!

with the current corrupt and trembling government, appaling economy and 3rd world mentality country....LOL @ competitive gaming

I think he means real soccer.




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Just to add another point, the only way to upgrade graphics in real life is to get a set of spectacles . =D

for me cs FTW and cod4 sux to da max. cs still become a playground for true cs player.. although community are small cs will never die trust me..

Everything dies. It's just a matter of time. =D

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When i ask people to play CS for fun with me,they immediately rejected me..

True that.

they probably scared of you

stay with source. we're always around

lolz...some1 is promoting sauce....XD

i still support cs..

yeah me too.. i still play everyday (the 2D version).. for me, CS is the pioneer @ kickstart era all of these FPS games..

I beg to differ. I think Wolfenstein 3D, Doom, or Maze War are more likely candidates as a pioneer to all FPS games.

sorry, i meant those that can play via online and/or as a team.. but true, those mentioned games were amongst the earliest FPS games.

yesshhhh more sauceeee

y not play both? would be sweet to see FsN in both competitions!

i dont mind playing with you for fun

CS is not dying in my college..
still got more than 40 ppl playing on lan..
but problem is most of them only prefer playing in small and rubbish map like fy_iceword, fy_dust, awp_map, blah blah blah..
everytime i create official match map like de_dust2 or inferno, nobody join..
haiya really sick playing RUSH!! CHARGE!!! then SPAM SPAM!!!

kids nowadays dun play CS (or whatever) the way we used to back then.. juz shoot2 amongst frens, who got d most kills, loser buys teh tarik.. no more like new teams/frens meetup n challenge during d wkends, participating contests, winner gets cash n upgrade their rig for better gameplay.. *sigh*

sigh...remember those days too man! everyday a 5v5 to improve on tactics n teamwork then every 1-2weeks a tourney to play and prove the hard work...damn it was awesome...but at least now we have the Pro-gamers Arena! WOOT

good what... still can practice. as long as you keep playing, there will be some sort of improvement. Just come my place la ken... we have friendly 5v5. XD