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Apr 6 2009, 02:05 PM
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6,497 posts Joined: Sep 2008 |
as for me, E5 is a decent amp, portable and just nice for my iphone.... too bad i havent order the LOD yet, which is in no doubt will change my iphone sound....
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Apr 6 2009, 07:15 PM
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9,706 posts Joined: Feb 2005 From: Why U wana know? Status: Meditating™ |
LOD stands for what>?
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Apr 6 2009, 07:43 PM
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1,101 posts Joined: Feb 2008 From: Mid Johor |
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Apr 6 2009, 09:34 PM
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Apr 6 2009, 09:59 PM
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7,214 posts Joined: Oct 2006 From: Kamino |
it's supposed to be better...
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Apr 6 2009, 10:24 PM
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9,706 posts Joined: Feb 2005 From: Why U wana know? Status: Meditating™ |
any reason or explanation behind that?
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Apr 6 2009, 11:19 PM
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1,101 posts Joined: Feb 2008 From: Mid Johor |
Here is how things work in DAP:
Music data -> CPU -> DAC -> AMP -> headphone. DAC - Digital-to-Analog Converter, turns digital data to analog sound. AMP - Amplifier, amplify the signal (music) from DAC to different set of gain (kind of like volume control). In portable device, due to size restriction, the amp section is usually kept very simple and just enough to drive normal, easy to drive headphone. Some time, cheap SMD components (tiny resistor, capacitor, lousy chips) are used to cut cost and space - these result in a headphone signal that are sub-par. In order to extract as much sound quality as possible from the portable device, we use the line-out signal. Line-out means the signal is directly from the DAC, un-amplified (so it avoids all the sub-par components in the amp section). We connect the line-out to an external amp (which replace the function of the internal amp section), which hopefully will be a lot better than the internal amp and thus provide better SQ and more power to drive difficult-to-drive headphones. Of course, the assumption is the internal amp is not going to be as good as (or as powerful as) the external amp you are going to use, or else the improvement will be really minimum (or none). |
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Apr 6 2009, 11:36 PM
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9,706 posts Joined: Feb 2005 From: Why U wana know? Status: Meditating™ |
QUOTE(ClieOS @ Apr 6 2009, 11:19 PM) Here is how things work in DAP: Very detailed explanation bro, thumbs up for newbie like me. I learned new stuff today Music data -> CPU -> DAC -> AMP -> headphone. DAC - Digital-to-Analog Converter, turns digital data to analog sound. AMP - Amplifier, amplify the signal (music) from DAC to different set of gain (kind of like volume control). In portable device, due to size restriction, the amp section is usually kept very simple and just enough to drive normal, easy to drive headphone. Some time, cheap SMD components (tiny resistor, capacitor, lousy chips) are used to cut cost and space - these result in a headphone signal that are sub-par. In order to extract as much sound quality as possible from the portable device, we use the line-out signal. Line-out means the signal is directly from the DAC, un-amplified (so it avoids all the sub-par components in the amp section). We connect the line-out to an external amp (which replace the function of the internal amp section), which hopefully will be a lot better than the internal amp and thus provide better SQ and more power to drive difficult-to-drive headphones. Of course, the assumption is the internal amp is not going to be as good as (or as powerful as) the external amp you are going to use, or else the improvement will be really minimum (or none). |
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Apr 7 2009, 04:56 PM
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921 posts Joined: Jan 2008 From: mamak stall |
QUOTE(ClieOS @ Apr 6 2009, 11:19 PM) Here is how things work in DAP: wow, at last, after so much of reading, and a lot of confusions when i read audiophilers discussion, now i know wat they mean!Music data -> CPU -> DAC -> AMP -> headphone. DAC - Digital-to-Analog Converter, turns digital data to analog sound. AMP - Amplifier, amplify the signal (music) from DAC to different set of gain (kind of like volume control). In portable device, due to size restriction, the amp section is usually kept very simple and just enough to drive normal, easy to drive headphone. Some time, cheap SMD components (tiny resistor, capacitor, lousy chips) are used to cut cost and space - these result in a headphone signal that are sub-par. In order to extract as much sound quality as possible from the portable device, we use the line-out signal. Line-out means the signal is directly from the DAC, un-amplified (so it avoids all the sub-par components in the amp section). We connect the line-out to an external amp (which replace the function of the internal amp section), which hopefully will be a lot better than the internal amp and thus provide better SQ and more power to drive difficult-to-drive headphones. Of course, the assumption is the internal amp is not going to be as good as (or as powerful as) the external amp you are going to use, or else the improvement will be really minimum (or none). so that is really wat it all means... good stuff here, all so plain and easy to understand! |
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Apr 7 2009, 05:40 PM
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276 posts Joined: Mar 2009 |
QUOTE(ClieOS @ Apr 6 2009, 11:19 PM) Here is how things work in DAP: That mean if there are no line out in our portable device, then it is not suitable for us to use external amplifier to amplify our portable device? Music data -> CPU -> DAC -> AMP -> headphone. DAC - Digital-to-Analog Converter, turns digital data to analog sound. AMP - Amplifier, amplify the signal (music) from DAC to different set of gain (kind of like volume control). In portable device, due to size restriction, the amp section is usually kept very simple and just enough to drive normal, easy to drive headphone. Some time, cheap SMD components (tiny resistor, capacitor, lousy chips) are used to cut cost and space - these result in a headphone signal that are sub-par. In order to extract as much sound quality as possible from the portable device, we use the line-out signal. Line-out means the signal is directly from the DAC, un-amplified (so it avoids all the sub-par components in the amp section). We connect the line-out to an external amp (which replace the function of the internal amp section), which hopefully will be a lot better than the internal amp and thus provide better SQ and more power to drive difficult-to-drive headphones. Of course, the assumption is the internal amp is not going to be as good as (or as powerful as) the external amp you are going to use, or else the improvement will be really minimum (or none). |
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Apr 9 2009, 08:46 PM
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1,101 posts Joined: Feb 2008 From: Mid Johor |
QUOTE(Fred86 @ Apr 7 2009, 05:40 PM) That mean if there are no line out in our portable device, then it is not suitable for us to use external amplifier to amplify our portable device? It is not 'ideal', but you can still get good result from amping headphone-out as long as the headphone-out is very good in SQ and 'clean' (low noise). |
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Apr 10 2009, 11:38 AM
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6,497 posts Joined: Sep 2008 |
i still hear good changes eventhou im using the stock cable with mini 3.5mm.
the bass is tighten and the isolation of music is quite good, but hopefully i'll be hearing more with the LOD...(hopefully... hahahaha!) |
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Apr 20 2009, 11:49 AM
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5,124 posts Joined: May 2008 From: Mummy's tummy |
Okay. I just grab the Fiio E5 and I was thinking of changing the small and fine stock cable but I've no idea which one to choose and they're so many seller selling the DIY able out there at the music section. Will it shows improvement after changing the stock cable I wonder?
OR LOD |
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May 13 2009, 09:27 PM
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1,281 posts Joined: Jan 2003 |
Question.
How long usually does the E5 take for it to be fully charged? Or just wait until the red light goes off regardless of the duration? |
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May 13 2009, 10:34 PM
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1,101 posts Joined: Feb 2008 From: Mid Johor |
QUOTE(hirari @ May 13 2009, 09:27 PM) Question. Depends on the output of the USB adapter / port, but usually it is less tha 3 hrs... and yes, till the right light goes off.How long usually does the E5 take for it to be fully charged? Or just wait until the red light goes off regardless of the duration? |
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May 15 2009, 10:18 PM
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30 posts Joined: Apr 2007 From: Historical City |
anyone.....
juz asking if the E5 can go well with a Sennheiser HD555... if not,... any recommandation on any other suitable portable amp. |
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May 15 2009, 10:28 PM
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1,385 posts Joined: Jan 2009 From: What Gives? |
go for mini 3 cheap2 onli
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May 19 2009, 11:58 PM
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3,196 posts Joined: Feb 2006 |
![]() klipsch custom-1 and e5 |
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May 20 2009, 12:32 AM
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1,281 posts Joined: Jan 2003 |
I am compelled to ask.
What about iBasso T4? Is there anyone here using it? Is it still available in the market? |
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May 20 2009, 01:53 AM
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1,101 posts Joined: Feb 2008 From: Mid Johor |
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