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post Sep 5 2019, 05:25 PM

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QUOTE(blackstar88 @ Jun 17 2019, 12:23 PM)
Alpha fan Excel how reliable it is? And how it fares if compare to panasonic bayu 5??

based on my calculation, it takes me 5-7 years to offset the price different with electric bill. features i dont think i really appreciate what offered by Alpha due to mostly i use fan only without aircond.

Alpha 5-46W
Panasonic Bayu 21-69W
If compare at max speed = 69-46 = 23WpH x18h per day = 414W/Day
30days = 12.42kW
my home bill around RM40-50 per month.
so calculate with RM0.218 kWh, 0.218*12.42 = RM2.7 per month saving.
Alpha lets say RM600, and bayu RM300, 300/2.7 = 111.111/12months = 9.25years.

My preference for Bayu speed is 2, and Alpha is at least 3 to have same feel of wind flow.

So it is left with reliability, i am using a panasonic fan which is 15years already and it is still working, but with newer technology, remote control etc, can they last that long?
even with lifetime motor warranty by alpha, the PCB spoil also have to change fan if it is discontinued.

anyone mind to share experience or recommendation?
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i ve been using Alpha since 2011 till now so far ok
only replace capacitor when the fan speed is weak

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post Sep 6 2019, 10:03 AM

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QUOTE(blackstar88 @ Sep 5 2019, 06:30 PM)
you are using dc motor?
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yes
i think most of the ceiling fans are using DC
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post Sep 7 2019, 11:50 AM

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QUOTE(blackstar88 @ Sep 6 2019, 03:31 PM)
ic.. i dont know Alpha already produce DC fan since 2011.
most older ceiling fan are using AC.
Alpha price for AC fan is around 200++, DC fan around 500.
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my Alpha ceiling fan in living hall was installed in year 2011 at cost RM more than 500 sweat.gif

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post Sep 9 2019, 03:50 PM

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QUOTE(kokwei1125 @ Sep 9 2019, 09:24 AM)
recently bought a mitsubishi ceiling fan RWS-P series for my living room..Alpha for two smaller rooms and kdk for master room..

trying to get different brands to try out.. hopefully it can last
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i think your Alpha fan for 2 smaller rooms still working fine but u need to replace the capacitors when time come to change
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post Sep 11 2019, 10:52 AM

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QUOTE(kokwei1125 @ Sep 11 2019, 10:28 AM)
thanks! will take note of that... hopefully it will be 5years later?
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depends on your usage
if dun use frequently can last longer
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post Sep 11 2019, 04:01 PM

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QUOTE(kokwei1125 @ Sep 11 2019, 11:00 AM)
i struggled during buying the fan. want to get with remote/light, but the prices scared me, as i didn't know fan can be so expensive

after serious consideration, thats the few brand we took.

and i think that metal blade fan is much windy than 'fiber' fan.
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yes nowadays those modern ceiling fan cost is expensive NOT cheap! sweat.gif
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post Jul 21 2020, 04:43 PM

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QUOTE(ry8128 @ Jul 19 2020, 11:42 PM)
Guys, based on the comments here, it seems like pana and kdk are the reliable brands. So is bayu OK? Cos not many ppl talking bout this model here.

And how should I choose the number of blades and the length? Currently incline to 4 blades, and its in the middle. Thanks.
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yeap, Pana and KDK quality has dropped
hv u tested Alph fan, not bad i heard
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post Jul 21 2020, 06:21 PM

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QUOTE(ry8128 @ Jul 21 2020, 06:01 PM)
Alph didn’t heard before. Is it reliable? Looking for reliable fan, not really into those fancy functions.
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post Jul 21 2020, 08:08 PM

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QUOTE(Corrupted Spirits @ Jul 21 2020, 07:13 PM)
I purchased few Panasonic fans recently and got it installed by the electrician.

Can I know is it common for the fan to wobble abit when operating and more when it's at the max speed? Or to what extent then we can consider the fan is wobbling? Is it as long as the case move abit even when operating is considered as wobbling?

I contacted the Customer Service and they mentioned that they will charge me if the fan wobble due to wrong installation so I was planning maybe to try tighten up the screws here and there first before proceeding to ask the technician to come over.

I'm a little OCD so even slight movement is bugging me quite a while.
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Basically fan wouldn't wobbling when operating if installation and balancing is good skilled by the technician
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post Jul 22 2020, 09:25 AM

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QUOTE(Evilshadow89 @ Jul 21 2020, 10:46 PM)
KDK Fan is always the best, got it together with the installation for RM250 and no issues till now: Installed by LKI
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long time ago, yes is good quality fan in Malaysia
Now i dun think so, most of my relatives install it recently complaining low quality.

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post Jul 22 2020, 09:58 AM

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QUOTE(scsoo @ Jul 22 2020, 09:42 AM)
Did the electrician do any sort of balancing of the blade during installation? Nowadays lot of electrician just install without any balancing done as presumably they believe the fan should be perfectly balance out of the box. But unfortunately there is other factor that influence this. As such there is such a case your fan can wobble if there is unbalance situation.

The technician would come and if due to balancing issue, its not consider wrong installation.

As such, you got 2 choice, ask your electrician to come balance the fan if he did not or ask the technician to do it for you but you get charged accordingly.
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During the installation new Fan, Technician should do all the necessary technical checking n testing in term of balancing if not the technician taking for granted


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post Jul 22 2020, 02:07 PM

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QUOTE(ceo684 @ Jul 22 2020, 01:42 PM)
Its normal if its the bayoo 4 series. The way the blades are mounted to the center hub is poorly designed. Its like you just hold the end of a long ruler using your thumb and a finger and try to keep it stable. If you use whole hand (4 fingers and one thumb) to hold that long ruler it will be much more stable. The former situation is the mounting of bayoo 4 using something like a clothes peg wire to hold the fan blade. The better one (latter situation) using hard mounting (failsafe and won't fly off) is the midrange (and higher) KDK series such as Vtouch Junior, Sensa 4.

You can try to pop off the fan blade "dinner plate" cover and tighten the 2 mounting screws (whilst pressing hard into the screw so it won't jump out/cam out and botak the + sign of the screws) for each blade to see if it helps whistling.gif.
To be honest, I installed 3 other KDKs and no issue. I have remounted that particular model bayoo 4 a total of three times from living hall, middle bedroom, and small bedroom and it still give windless feel + krek krek sounds of the blade scraping on the center hub.
The technician only ensure to mount the center hub and fix all 4 blades. It is not the job of the technician to balance fan blades. That is factory responsibility to deliver a working product. This is not like car tyre mounting.
The fan blades are balanced at factory level not at installation/end user side.
All have same weights as per the factory balancing stickers (they give a set of 4x 78.0 or 4x 79.5 for example), the factory wont give 3x78 and 1x 79.5.
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On Alpha Technicians, they deliver to your house, install it and do balancing checking as well.
Therefore, kill three birds in one stone
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post Jul 30 2020, 01:01 PM

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QUOTE(blanket84 @ Jul 30 2020, 10:53 AM)
I have one question.

How far from the wall a ceiling fan should be installed?

There is a "hallway" in my house that I planned to install a fan. The width is around 68". I calculate if I buy KDK baby fan which is 44", I will be left with 24", which divide by 2 will be 1'. Is 1' from from the blade for each side will be adequate?
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post Aug 2 2020, 12:34 PM

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QUOTE(ub3rg33k @ Aug 1 2020, 05:57 PM)
I am also interested in those Alpha DC motor fans. Some of their Sandinavian design looks very nice and minimalist.

Anyone here with experience using them? I am worried about realiability of DC motor but I want something quiet. My current AC ones from both Panasonic and KDK bising and humming after use of some years (quite many years lah to be honest, so worth it already).
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i ve been using AC model more than 10 years no problems at all,
only change the capacitor
On DC model is new release n i was got it first quater this year
not much issue only one unit got little noise. After make a complaint, they hv arranged Technician sawp a new unit.
problems solved.


 

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