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Spanish Clubs Futbol Club de Barcelona ~ Palau Blaugrana, Ex-Barça: RIP Sir Bobby Robson

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post Jul 25 2009, 11:28 PM

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QUOTE(miccy @ Jul 25 2009, 11:21 PM)
So you are okay with the idea spending big on 1 player? laugh.gif
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it a big amount but it ok if he can score goals like Eto`o did
how about u,is it ok to spend 93ME for a diver tongue.gif
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post Jul 25 2009, 11:35 PM

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QUOTE(faris21 @ Jul 25 2009, 11:28 PM)
it a big amount but it ok if he can score goals like Eto`o did
how about u,is it ok to spend 93ME for a diver tongue.gif
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Well he is pretty and sell shirts plus he is younger than Ibra tongue.gif

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post Jul 25 2009, 11:41 PM

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QUOTE(miccy @ Jul 25 2009, 11:35 PM)
Well he is pretty and sell shirts plus he is younger than Ibra  tongue.gif
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good luck on your selling shirt part, let hope he not elbowed our captain again in next Clasico

btw the next meeting is on Sunday 29 Nov, Messi-Ibra-Xavi-Iniesta-Kaka-Ronaldo, i heard the ticket already been book sweat.gif

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Sigh, this ibra better be worth it.
50m + eto'o is almost the price real paid for ronaldo IMHO
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post Jul 26 2009, 11:08 AM

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it's ok la....53ME is wat for us?.....we are tri championnnn.....compare to our archrival who never won anything...but still have alot money to spend sweat.gif
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post Jul 26 2009, 11:11 AM

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50ME in a swap deal plus player...for ibra. nice deal i'd say.
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post Jul 26 2009, 01:24 PM

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haha. 50M is okay for us...coz atm we know our weak department..and manage to strengthen it. its better than those club who dunno whats wrong with their squad...so need to overhaul whole squad..again. tongue.gif . gud luck for next season cool2.gif
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QUOTE(faris21 @ Jul 25 2009, 11:28 PM)
it a big amount but it ok if he can score goals like Eto`o did
how about u,is it ok to spend 93ME for a diver tongue.gif
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The last I checked Ronaldo scored more goals than Ibra over the last 3 years and is a WPOTY hmm.gif

Clubs can spend whatever the hell they want on a player. It's their finances and their team they want to build. But when you go around criticising ppl (like Laporta) and then go and do the same it's just stupidly hypocritical. Doesn't matter how u twist it, spending 50ME + Eto'o for a player who isn't even a WPOTY is just as outrageous an amount. Imperialistic was the word Laporta used isn't it? Heh. And it wasn't even that long ago that matyrze was over in the RM thread criticising our spending. Ironic isn't it how things worked out wink.gif

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QUOTE(verx @ Jul 26 2009, 02:02 PM)
The last I checked Ronaldo scored more goals than Ibra and is a WPOTY hmm.gif

Clubs can spend whatever the hell they want on a player. It's their finances and their team they want to build. But when you go around criticising ppl (like Laporta) and then go and do the same it's just stupidly hypocritical. Doesn't matter how u twist it, spending 50ME + Eto'o for a player who isn't even a WPOTY is just as outrageous an amount. Imperialistic was the word Laporta used isn't it? Heh. And it wasn't even that long ago that matyrze was over in the RM thread criticising our spending. Ironic isn't it how things worked out wink.gif
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haha.everyone know the onli reason for RM using 200M..just for for the sake of making money.football is number#2. but i'm not really care of it. at least we don't loaned money from the bank. if RM need to break into IMF bank account to grab 11 WPOTY for 'The Great Galacticos', then its ok for me..coz we all know RM did for for making more money. thats it. selling shirt..drink etc etc. 50M is ok for me...even he's not WPOTY. Who knows if Pep once again can make his magic touch with ibra. like he did to Henry.. . Pep always make a surprise cool2.gif . ops..did i forgot to mention that ibra is a leading scorer at Serie A last year? yawn.gif

haish...then..we need to settle it during upcoming El Classico. nod.gif

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post Jul 26 2009, 06:13 PM

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the other thing is they spend much bcos they don't have any good product, they keep saying about De la Red and Granero who just have average performance and make appearance with national squad just 3-4 times, other than that they keep saying Raul (in fact he start with Atletico) and Eto`o (who shine with other club), the only 5 star product in current squad that they produce is Iker and Raul while we have Puyol, Xavi, Iniesta, Messi. Other than that
Valdes ,Pique, Krkic, Pedro, Busquets, V.Sanchez make it to the main squad while Madrid only have Guti and Miguel Torres, now you know the other reason Madrid spend much because they only know buy world class player while we know how to make world class player



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QUOTE(faris21 @ Jul 26 2009, 06:13 PM)
the other thing is they spend much bcos they don't have any good product, they keep saying about De la Red and Granero who just have average performance and make appearance with national squad just 3-4 times, other than that they keep saying Raul (in fact he start with Atletico) and Eto`o (who shine with other club), the only 5 star product in current squad that they produce is Iker and Raul while we have Puyol, Xavi, Iniesta, Messi. Other than that
Valdes ,Pique, Krkic, Pedro, Busquets, V.Sanchez make it to the main squad while Madrid only have Guti and Miguel Torres, now you know the other reason Madrid spend much because they only know buy world class player while we know how to make world class player
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Where were your boastful claims in the late 90's when we had a great generation in Raul, Guti, Iker and you guys had mostly Dutch internationals together with the likes of Rivaldo, Saviola, Riquelme dominating the first team? Before that we had the Quinta del Buitre. When it comes to producing world class players luck plays a part in getting a quality generation of youngsters. And yes Barca are lucky to have Xavi, Iniesta and Messi. You also conveniently forget that Eto'o who has been just as crucial to your recent successes is a Madrid product. I wouldn't rate the likes of Krcic up there yet personally. However if there's one thing I can commend Barca it's that they are far more patient when it comes to giving chances to the cantera. But don't be so quick to dismiss De La Red or Granero. De La Red was playing really well up to his heart failure on the field which even led to a national team call up. Granero led lowly Getafe to a great UEFA cup run just 2 years ago and he's still very young and has time on his side and has been our best talent since Iker. I even rate him better than Juan Manuel Mata who just a few pages back one of your cule friend suggested Barca to buy wink.gif That would be hilarious if it happened; all your claims that we can't produce world class players and you go ahead and buy one of our products tongue.gif
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QUOTE(verx @ Jul 26 2009, 07:37 PM)
Where were your boastful claims in the late 90's when we had a great generation in Raul, Guti, Iker and you guys had mostly Dutch internationals together with the likes of Rivaldo, Saviola, Riquelme dominating the first team? Before that we had the Quinta del Buitre. When it comes to producing world class players luck plays a part in getting a quality generation of youngsters. And yes Barca are lucky to have Xavi, Iniesta and Messi.  You also conveniently forget that Eto'o who has been just as crucial to your recent successes is a Madrid product. I wouldn't rate the likes of Krcic up there yet personally. However if there's one thing I can commend Barca it's that they are far more patient when it comes to giving chances to the cantera. But don't be so quick to dismiss De La Red or Granero. De La Red was playing really well up to his heart failure on the field which even led to a national team call up. Granero led lowly Getafe to a great UEFA cup run just 2 years ago and he's still very young and has time on his side and has been our best talent since Iker. I even rate him better than Juan Manuel Mata who just a few pages back one of your cule friend suggested Barca to buy wink.gif That would be hilarious if it happened; all your claims that we can't produce world class players and you go ahead and buy one of our products tongue.gif
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1st i talking about current situation but i already expect you will come with unexpected thing and here we go you come here with 90`s thing just because you cant stand with others opinion, why u just accept that Madrid cant produce like current Barca product, we now talking about youth who play for the main squad which mean Mata, Cesc or Arteta out from topic, if u still not interested talking about current issue and wanna talk about the past (which Merengues top point after they won five European Cup on the row) why dont u just look at Ronaldo, Zidane, Figo, Kaka, Cristiano Ronaldo who all already shine in football world before Madrid buy then, instead of buy star we more interested to make a star or vanish a good potential become a great player just like Ronaldinho, Ronaldo, Maradona, Rivaldo and Figo.
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QUOTE(faris21 @ Jul 26 2009, 08:21 PM)
1st i talking about current situation but i already expect you will come with unexpected thing and here we go you come here with 90`s thing just because you cant stand with others opinion, why u just accept that Madrid cant produce like current Barca product, we now talking about youth who play for the main squad which mean Mata, Cesc or Arteta out from topic, if u still not interested talking about current issue and wanna talk about the past (which Merengues top point after they won five European Cup on the row) why dont u just look at Ronaldo, Zidane, Figo, Kaka, Cristiano Ronaldo who all already shine in football world before Madrid buy then, instead of buy star we more interested to make a star or vanish a good potential become a great player just like Ronaldinho, Ronaldo, Maradona, Rivaldo and Figo.
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You failed to understand the point I was making. But anyway as I already said, Barca should be commended for giving chances to their youth products. That's one area where I would like to see Madrid emulate and show more patience to the youngsters. Just because I disagree with you doesn't mean I can't accept your opinions. Madrid doesn't have a problem producing players; it's giving players their chance to shine where we fall short. For example if Bojan were a Madrid product he wouldn't have been given the chance to start in the first team yet. In a way we're victims of our own high expectations.

And Barca doesn't buy players who already shine in world football? Then how about Ibra? whistling.gif
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QUOTE(verx @ Jul 26 2009, 08:53 PM)
You failed to understand the point I was making. But anyway as I already said, Barca should be commended for giving chances to their youth products. That's one area where I would like to see Madrid emulate and show more patience to the youngsters. Just because I disagree with you doesn't mean I can't accept your opinions. Madrid doesn't have a problem producing players; it's giving players their chance to shine where we fall short. For example if Bojan were a Madrid product he wouldn't have been given the chance to start in the first team yet. In a way we're victims of our own high expectations.

And Barca doesn't buy players who already shine in world football? Then how about Ibra? whistling.gif
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hehe...it's ok la.....what faris just want to said here is...we produce more then we buy.......we buy ibra(IMHO)....is because..when you see your arch rival are buying world class player..not one...but many of them...we have to do something so we are capable to defend our title next season(not one...but all of them...instead...we are trying to win more championship..more than what we did last season)
so in pep eye....ibra have something on him that braca needed for next season so we can improve our performence for next season
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Ibra for Eto is kind a good deal...and the Hleb loan is not aproblem cuz Barca rarely use him..Just pray that Ibra can perform superbly...and turn himself to a goal machine...
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QUOTE(Ichighost @ Jul 26 2009, 09:34 PM)
Ibra for Eto is kind a good deal...and the Hleb loan is not aproblem cuz Barca rarely use him..Just pray that Ibra can perform superbly...and turn himself to a goal machine...
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Good deal? shocking.gif Well, I'm not saying that Ibra is not good but he certainly doesn't worth THAT much...To be honest, I think the deal is pretty stupid deal(no offence to barca's fans).Apparently, Eto can fetch around 20m+ for a player of his quality and plus the money Barca paid for Ibra, that will makes the total amount 70ME which I dont think Ibra is worth that much... shakehead.gif
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QUOTE(verx @ Jul 26 2009, 08:53 PM)
You failed to understand the point I was making. But anyway as I already said, Barca should be commended for giving chances to their youth products. That's one area where I would like to see Madrid emulate and show more patience to the youngsters. Just because I disagree with you doesn't mean I can't accept your opinions. Madrid doesn't have a problem producing players; it's giving players their chance to shine where we fall short. For example if Bojan were a Madrid product he wouldn't have been given the chance to start in the first team yet. In a way we're victims of our own high expectations.

And Barca doesn't buy players who already shine in world football? Then how about Ibra? whistling.gif
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did i say we doesn't buy players who already shine in world football??i use statement "instead of buy star we more interested to make a star or vanish a good potential become a great player" which mean i understand that Barca will use own product 1st before thinking to use outside source (players who already shine in world football), obviously Pep keep working to make sure Masia product have enough chance to shine and you can see it from the way he keep Valdes , Bojan and bring back Pique even try to bring Cesc back, in Madrid side obviously you can see your team keep bring outside source until i watch one match last season where Casillas is the only Madrid product kicking the ball on the pitch, other than that you guys keep hoping Robben, Hugain, Wesley, Pepe to give victory. Dont you see your beloved team cant stand with own assets , last season when winning the title only two town boy Raul and Casillas make a big impact other than that the Dutchs and other foreigner did it, even the time when Madrid win last title in Europe the big name appear was Zidane and Figo. It continue until now when Madrid desperately need Kaka and Ronaldo to stop a rivals and to do that again they cant afford to do it but thank to Spanish bank
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just watch Rochina`s assist on 1st goal, another young promising talent we have, not to mention Muniesa and Gai also make a good impact, Joni (Giovani Dos Santos`s younger brother) also impress me
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Line Up
Jorquera (45 Valdés)

Montoya (45 Dalmau)
Henrique (45 Cáceres)
Muniesa (45 Fontàs)
Abidal (45 Espasandín)

Rueda (45 Jonathan)
Víctor Sánchez (45 Touré)
Keita (45 Gudjohnsen)

Rochina (45 Pedro)
Bojan (45 Messi)
Gai (45 Jeffren)

Goal
15 Bojan 0-1
30 El Egezy 1-1
40 Rueda 1-2
55 Jeffren 1-3
66 Pedro 1-4


Assists
Rochina
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Pedro
Gudjohnsen

Injured
Milito
Márquez
Henry
Iniesta
Hleb
Maxwell

Out of match squad
Pinto
Edu Oriol

Still on holiday

Xavi
Piqué
Puyol
Busquets
Dani Alves
Eto'o

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QUOTE(faris21 @ Jul 27 2009, 12:33 AM)
just watch Rochina`s assist on 1st goal, another young promising talent we have, not to mention Muniesa and Gai also make a good impact, Joni (Giovani Dos Santos`s younger brother) also impress me
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why...our young player looking so fast in speed? hmm.gif

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