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SUSMatrix
post Aug 19 2008, 08:43 AM

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10GB...how to download...mati-lah...

I watched some HD TV series though, definitely better than ASTRO. doh.gif
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post Feb 3 2009, 04:44 PM

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QUOTE(ar188 @ Feb 2 2009, 01:58 PM)
80/100 for DVD is too generous.. should be 50-60/100  subjectively (for me)

if count pixel information it will be 5-6times lower than 1080p...

of coz, depends on what kind of TV you got.. if you got 854x480 early Gen PDPs then not much diff between DVD and HD 720/1080. since the screen can't display all the information from the source.. if you got 1080p projector blown up the 120inches screen. then DVDs will look kinda of sucky even if sitting 6-7feet away..
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Agreed. For me DVD is 50/100 only. Even on 32" HDTV LCD(1360 x768), the difference is like day and night. It is not only the resolution, but the encoding format. H264 is a much more advance encoding than the ancient MPEG-2 used in DVD, hence the superior quality.


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QUOTE(sonyman @ Feb 2 2009, 09:39 PM)
well i find that the 5.1 audio on a mkv file is not as clear as dvd 5.1, especially DTS.

i find the mkv is a little muffled. unless im not using something which you guys are.
so some how i still go buy some nice dvd to watch.

using the Hardware decoding from my soundcard. the DD and DTS sounds much better, clearer and louder.

although i m very impressed with mkv able to carry 5.1 info..

the other thing i wanna ask. can the audio codecs output spdif into my soundcard so that i can use my soundcard to decode the sound. 

if i use power dvd to play, i set audio output to spdif.

anyone tried spdif output for mkv ?
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i think it has something to do with your source. Not all mkv's are ripped the same. Check out the audio bitstream info. Also some mkv's are only 2 channels MP3...doh.gif.

Also, your software/driver settings could also be a factor.

Lastly. what do you mean you 'output SPDIF' to ur soundcard? If you enabled the DD/DTS decoding of your sound card (also make sure ur sound card capable of DTS, not all sound card are capable to decode DTS i think), it's already been done. You only pass through the DD/DTS signal if you want to decode in an external receiver.


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post Feb 4 2009, 12:02 PM

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QUOTE(jeffbong @ Feb 3 2009, 07:32 PM)
dvd is much better than vcd. if u contented with vcd and astro and so be it...

get a rm10 copy (not the cinema recording or fake subtitles) i 100% believe u will enjoy the movie....

pixel peeping is usually the first week when u buy the LCD/DVD player/BD/DVD

after that, a good copy is enuff....
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How to enjoy...when all the picture are blurrry and pixellly!!!!!

I bought original DVDs from Speedy...compared to the mkv, it looks like VCD and Astro already. Don't even wanna look at it anymore.

When i saw mkv for the first time on my 32" LCD...wah-lau...this is how my LCD is suppose to be used, not DVD, not ASTRO!!!

Every frame is like a hi-res capture from a digital camera. You don't even need a FULLHD TV to see the difference. (I bet FULL HD will be even more jaw dropping, no doubt).
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post Feb 4 2009, 12:18 PM

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QUOTE(rx330 @ Feb 4 2009, 12:12 PM)
er... matrix... u know wat tokin u boh?
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As an analogy lar...pausing an 1080p mkv movie...and pausing a DVD movie. It's like the still shot are taken with a hi-res digital cam....on DVDs, it looks like the shot taken with handphone camera. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(jeffbong @ Feb 4 2009, 05:49 PM)
oh having bigger files is better due to no compression

but as some forummer say:
1) download is slow
2) BD is expensive

i really dun believe a upscale dvd will be that bad!!! unless somebody prove me wrong that upscale DVD is like astro!!!

maybe u watch jagged lines of the clothes and hair instead of the whole movie itself...cheers

so it's back to time vs price that makes me take cheapest price and time which is DVD!!
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Download is not really THAT slow if you know what BT client to use and configure and DL 24/7......small investment...wink.gif

Upscale DVDs....nyehhh...my HDMI DVD player do upscale and i think so does my PC. No difference at all. It's better than ASTRO of course (provided ur DVD is good quality), but don't make
me laugh that it can even comes marginally close to a good 1080p/720p mkv rip.


If you like jagged line so much, perhaps u should stick to VCD?? tongue.gif

Cheapest?? DL is still cheapest...best bang for buck with best price/performance...LOL.

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post Feb 6 2009, 05:33 PM

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QUOTE(s6xs9x @ Feb 6 2009, 04:39 PM)
Guys,

What do most of you use to play those mkv files?
I've seem a few NMT models from the net, but which one should I get?

Help me out, I have internet connection .. (1)
I have a rx1800 (2)
I have normal 29" TV that can't take no HDMI. (3)

Which player you guys recommend me? the WDTV does not have component out. the rest I have no idea where to start searching.

Lai, give me some options .. Oh yea (1) internet connection .. post me some links so that i can survey while in the office.
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29" 4:3 TV is not a good platform to watch mkv movies. Because the aspect ratio of movies are like 2:40, 1:85 etc, you'll see a very small picture cramped by 2 huge black bars....probably no difference watching DVDs and Mkv.


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post Feb 10 2009, 04:09 PM

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QUOTE(J_Vansen_S @ Feb 10 2009, 03:50 PM)
hows mkv files compared to dvd9?

btw whats the diff in pq interms of dvd9 and dvd
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mkv (with H264 encoding) owns DVD9.

H264 is really amazing. I've downloaded 1 movie only 1GB+(mkv - H264) but the quality is better than the same movie with 4GB+ file encoded with Xvid. doh.gif Anyone notice the same sympton? I guess Xvid really outdated already.

Disclaimer: The above was done solely for the purpose of analysing videos encoded with different codecs. All movies downloaded are promptly destroyed after 24hours after the analysis has been performed. sweat.gif
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post Feb 10 2009, 04:57 PM

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QUOTE(rx330 @ Feb 10 2009, 04:55 PM)
aiyoh.... mkv is a container
DVD9 is a dual layer DVD, how the hell can u guys compare?
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Generally understood lar.

DVD-9 is MPEG-2, mkv is mostly H264, although it can be others.
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post Feb 10 2009, 05:21 PM

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QUOTE(rx330 @ Feb 10 2009, 05:00 PM)
i tot mkv mostly is x264 biggrin.gif
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x264 is the encoder. H264 is the codec. But a lot of people just put x264 in their NFO file because they encode it using x264, hence the confusion.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X264

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H264

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