QUOTE(danmooncake @ Jan 28 2009, 09:40 AM)
I would certainly disagree with that because I know tons of PS3 owners out there who has never connected their PS3 to the Internet (yeah..no PSN, no BD live).
I think it is very unlikely games companies put PS3 firmware on their disc (other than their own software patches). If they did, this could be a problem for the owners because of the following reasons:
a) Firmware on bundled disc gets outdated by the time it reaches consumer.
b) Games companies most of time are clueless on the effect of the firmware on owners' hardware. Only Sony is fully aware of any side effect because that's their software.
c) Firmware could be different for different regions/languages - how does game co know which is which?
d) I doubt Sony would license their firmware to be distributed by 3rd party other than their own game company: SCE.
The firmware distribution is Sony responsibility, not the 3rd party game cos responsibility. However, they can certainly state the minimum firmware requirement needed for the game to run, ultimately, it needs be owners responsibility to click and download the latest firmware from the net.
a) if it is outdated, what is the problem? they bundled the firmware in the disc according to the game's requirements (corresponding to the version of sdk/functionality used), not necessarily the latest. of course, some of the firmware check can be bypassed using rfom & f1:ce disc swap trick. but do it at your own risk/discretion.
b) how can a game company guarantees a game would run on any outdated system (or clueless consumer who dont have intertubes)? sony requires them to ship the firmware with the disc.
show me a game prompting an error that the game disc wouldnt run because of an outdated system, AND asks you to download it yourself from the internet.c) as a person who keeps track of sony firmware md5 hashes since the psp days, your point is moot. all firmware are region-free (psp & ps3).
http://forums.maxconsole.net/showthread.php?p=898479http://www.eurasia.nu/modules.php?op=modlo...orum=87&start=0d) did you ever have a psp? how many 3rd party publishers bundled a firmware required to run their umd games?
answer = ALL
check any ps3 game disc using any pc with bd drive (or ps3 in linux mode) and you'll see firmware bundled in those games disc.
well, if you can show me some proof to refute my bolded point, i'll gladly admit that my info was wrong. but it is how it was done since psp, so i'd assume its the same on ps3.