sorry to blame the managent of WCG Malaysia but their not profesional in manage the event..This a few example the i not satisfied with the managment of the event..

1)The is lack of information about the game..
exp- the schedule is not same like the MARSHAL(the in charge of the game)
mean-FIFA08 start at 5.30PM..but their start play at 12.00PM..
it is very not prefesional...
If u wan make a QUALIFIYING at 12.00PM..u must make sure UPDATE at the SCHEDULE N GIVE the INFORMATION to the GAMER
NOT FOR THE MARSHAL..

That the reason i so very UPSET n Dissapointed with managment of the event..
This is a MALAYSIA CYBER GAMES is a prestij event..but the managment was VERY VERY POOR n Not PREFESIONAL..

thx.

lol, love your english. But for me I am a FIFA player and I have no qualms about it. I mean they started when I was still attending the press conference. Thankfully I had so many ppl who knew me in the hall that Strife went to fetch me lol.
And WHEN was it said FIFA starts at 5.30? I never heard of that. I know from all the years I see/join WCG they will start all matches at 12pm
For me if you want to enter an event like this, please be professional. Never blame anyone else but yourself if anything happen

sorry for the bad language..

not many people(new people) know the time for the event..
at least give info or give a accurate SCHEDULE..

at least update the schedule..
that why i don fell satisfied with the event..


thx

LOLz. . .PwnZ xD

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Err... I think nothing free is the best lah... I remember last time wcg dunno year 2004 or 2005, Where gamers have to pay to participate~ That year freebies also got alot of things one~ The shirt have better quality and 2 large LCD monitors for people to view whats happening in some exciting matches between pro vs pro...

I remember need to pay RM35 via mol points... Correct me if i'm wrong...

Then err i remember even the samsung girls are more lenglui on that year~ Hahaha...

This post has been edited by Soul-X: Aug 16 2008, 07:55 AM

I feel your disappointment about this. While the need of a schedule as you pointed out is valid, an accurate scheduling is next to impossible due to the nature of tournaments where delay always exist. What is needed is approximate schedule so that participants at least has a little bit of idea when is their turn to play.

But yeah...who said FIFA starts at 5.30? The tournament always starts right after the launch ceremony. Do you mean your turn to play? Well...that's pretty normal for a game with 128 players around.

i do find that this year's WCG is more lenient for my and my wife... the MARSHAL yesterday was doing a good job.. as for my part, starting early or late.. it's not a problem for me.

Chap, i think what he mean is he tought the fifa tournament only starts at 5.30, not his turn to play. At 5.30...i think most of da fifa games are done...it reached the top32 stages i think...I think he read da schedule wrongly,which is given in the goodies bag. It written there 5.30 FIFA STAGE MATCH, Not FIFA start at 5.30..XD...They did mention that all the tournament starts on 12pm thou on da book...so i guess MonRae u get it wrong??

thx Chapree for feel my dissapointed..
Im feel sad coz the schedule not give a detail info about the game..
At least FOR THE NEW GAMERS know what the time should they attend..

i hope next WCG they can give good n accurate schedule...
coz not all gamer know the time(expesially the new gamer-first time join the event)
Don't aspect all people know de,,

thx..for the comment ^^

aspect or expect? Anyways for me try to mingle around. Ask ppl there what time starting or what? I only joined it last year, and thankfully I found ppl there friendly. If anything, just ask the marshals. They will gladly assist you.

lol @ in2

be it schedule or not. if i not mistaken.. for the past years also gamers waiting at the waiting area the whole day waiting for their turn to play.

so either u wait there patiently.. or u have frens there who notice your name being called and phone you.

maybe they should put up a animated scoreboard to call names?

Today much better time management,after i arrive straight away got game,then go having light lunch and wait 1 hour,after that our turn again.

perhaps they should also have a nice "waiting area" for the gamers, and it probably would have been better for the player calling to be routed to the main hall speakers too, cause if you're out there at the booths, you cant hear jack from the tourney area. OR, there should be booths around the tourney area. as NecroSavant mentioned earlier, the way the tourney area was built was definitely not spectator friendly. something to think about for sure.

i think they did learn a lot from the first day, and the second day they were setting tentative timings for most of the matches. perhaps the shittiness was due to the amount of players and stuff like chapree mentioned.

This post has been edited by strife_personified: Aug 16 2008, 09:08 PM

even if they do put on the schedule timing, it is quite useless coz shit does happen....disconnection, players mia, players taking a long time to setup....then coz delays...
2nd day timing always better than the first one coz less players, more blank pc to full fill the remaining matches
fifa always had 128 max players registered...if this is not ur first fifa compy, u shud know ther are always delay...

for once i waited 7 hours for my matches...and i become marshal b4, its not easy...

and please it's not Malaysia Cyber Games lol

<sarcasm> 2008's marshal for Counter-Strike are fantastic! </sarcasm>

lol yeah. Once they said my 2nd match would be at 1pm, and I have to wait untill 6pm. At the time I was so tired that I lost easily

Yeah should have to set time .. wait so long tired .. and the FIFA fixture board is not meant for 128 players

and no chair to sit .. less competition ( where the hack is the Fix the Fastest Computer Competition ) only the F1 thing .. manage to get 1.47 best time for the second time .. way of 1.27 the fastest time , some more only can play 1 time .. luckily i brought russian .

...nevermind got so many friends ... chit-chat and the time fly by ..

The SC marshal told me on friday to reach at mid valley on 9am SATURDAY

But end up the marshal himself reach on 9.40am

Nice management indeed

My 1st match started on 1pm...

Damnit...

I only know CS time management is okay, as for STARCRAFT~ It sucks big time.... =_=

ill talk to anwar bout this matter.

After going to WCG Singapore... WCG Malaysia feels... cheap.

Honestly, there should be a cost incured to the players, the pay a little bit so they dont "fly aeroplane".
Also, in WCG Singapore, timings were only off on the first day, since the majority of teams need to qualify on those days(the next days were normal, since only the qualifiers needed to register) The setback for WCG Singapore was 1 hour max, and loads of hot chics

They also gave away free FHM, which in my opinion is good, since most gamers are guys.

The sponsors here emphasize on sales after the event, which is why their budget is lower. I am particularly saddened by this matter, since it IS a gaming event, not a sales launch.. When their priorities are wrong, they get shit events.

you think cs time management is okay?
first day friday usually only double eli for top16 and 2 matches the most, instead, I came around 11am and finish my whole game until 9pm.
and 2nd day, I was told to come around 12 just to play my match around 7;30pm.

shahdap in2

emo sial ko lol. For me I had the liberty to hear all about in2's reluctance to get sponsors from the outside because of what mentioned above. Sponsors wants something in return, which in this case sales. That's why in2 prefers to fork their own money. It might not be much but it's what keeps the game going.

Whoa, I have to agree with most of the competitors even though I'm not in the tournament.

Sorry to say, but some competitors (Malay mainly) complaining that they have to ffk their games due to their games was set during the Friday prayers. I know that the organisers are trying to finish up the game early but c'mon, be sensitive to others as well..

Plus, I sense that WCG have a lot of empty spaces within the hall itself. The booths are less eventful compared to CELGames. With more attention to sales more than the games itself, it more to World Cyber Sales...

in2 should have done better with a lot of experience in managing WCG Malaysia. But with this kind of calibre shown at WCG 2008, I'm not surprised if someone took other the hosting rights from in2.

Singapore has been successful in organising WCG 2005. Can Malaysia do the same if we are offered the chance?

Just time can tell...

I doubt anyone want to fork that much money to get teh rights. If they wanted to they already did.

same complains every year...dont u guys understand

no sponsor -> no wcg -> u cant participate
you wan to participate? then juz get along with it...rather tat no wcg at all

once a year only, its not taking 3 months of ur time...only 3 days

basically this thread is about constructive critiscm right.so lets try to keep it that way.
Luige's point on the same thing being repeated is spot on that no sponsor = no WCG.

However that shouldnt be a reason why they shouldnt improve next year right?

As one of the participating gamers in this WCG edition,I feel mostly satisfied with the organising party which did a good job trying to get things together. my team,Kilatgaming.my was treated well with the marshall helping us setting up prior to the match.

The things i felt need improvement would be :-

1) Information

the most critical part that I am pretty dissapointed is the lack of information us gamer can get from the organisers. I noticed the CS WCG board outside that shows the progress of the winner/loser brackets are practically empty and was updated slowly. The purpose of the board is to tell the specs what is going on and to us gamers,who we fighting next and stuff. Its not a tall order,just take a marker and fill the blanks.

Time management as some of our respective gamers has pointed up is not punctual. True they might be other factors that affect the time but its always a good thing to have a good rough estimation of the timeline. Maybe if they can tell us who we playing next it would have been alot better for us as we would have time to work our stratergy out
( IF there is any...LOL)

2) Gaming Arena

not spec friendly,thats all i can say.professional esports is not only about the gamers but also about the one who is watching like every other sports,they're the one that make the experience whole.I suggest more spectator friendly area next time for easier access and viewing to the games. I got friends coming from as far as perak to watch the games only to find they cant see much of it which make me feel sad.

thats what i can think off right now.kudos organisers.make next year better!

its months of preparations bro...training,setting,discussions,strategies

btw,as far as i remember, wcg06 a lot more better than wcg08.

the down side:

01. venue.
why mv? yes i agree that mv attract ppls but only to those kaki shopping..why should they go all the way to 3F for wcg?. i think when they held it at klcc on 2006, there are more ppls going there compared to mv, i can c spaces. n i did saw ppls...but 99% of them are gamers.

02. schedule.
cant they publish the schedule (both gaming n events) at least 1 week earlier? those who ffk just dq them la (those who 5-10 minutes late). no need open slot for others what). meaning..less delay.

pls keep us update on the competition. asap. never leave the box empty ya?

03. game island:
no spectators frenly.make it something similar if not exact to NecrosavaNt's suggestion.

04. about gamers tag redemption:
let gamers redeem their tag on day 1 can r? many hv to ponteng school/classes just to redeem the tag....totally xhealthy liao. or they can post it to us,gamers. or make it like now, but gamers r free to redeem their tag at either tag redemption day or redeem it at day 1 before 12 pm. whoever x, --> disqualified. simple.

05. events:
dull. not having fun at all.

06. sponsors:
x really helpful in contributing the capital n the excitement of wcg. all focus on displaying their products hoping for after sales. r they thinking of wcg is the same as PC Fair?

07. gamers w8ing area:
at least give us cheapo carpet to sit on.

08. gaming time:
announce our name n nick 10-20 minutes earlier can or not? n hv us gather somewhere to w8 for our turn. when the gamer x in queue when it is his turn, disqualified!! or just proceed to gaming n disqualify if more than 10 minutes or when all other players finish. make phone call/sms can? we did give u our h/p no rite?

09. announcement:
i cant hear ya at booth hall. make it "listenable" n "audioble" to all hall n if possible, on outside too. it is better if we have lcd screen to display who's turn is now n who's next. that way, gamers will be alert on the event.

10. promotions/information:
if u ever read pcgamer/gamesaxis, didnt surf lowyat.net/multiply.com, x a gamer/his or her family or relatives i doubt you know 1 single thing about wcg. make it public man....publish it on newspaper/tv/radio. be aggresive. where is Ministry of Youth & Sports when we need them?

11. tournament structure:
it is better to hv league of 8. then each 2/3 winner from each group proceed to kalah mati. no losers bracket pls..its confusing.

there's more..but i kinda 4got.later if there's any,i'll post more.

This post has been edited by Invince_Z: Aug 18 2008, 02:39 PM

hahaha

sounds like just bad management and organization.

I found out a lot of people are a bit sarcastic.

As a participants, i think you yourself should figure it out more regarding on the competition.
Is your own responsibility to reassure the schedule rather than waiting people to inform you.
Kindly show some initiative and passion on gaming. Other gamers can just wait for the game but why you can't?


And try not to compare Malaysia WCG & Singapore WCG. Is different background and culture.
If you guys comparing Malaysia & Singapore WCG, what are the difference between you and those lousy politicians?
If you think organizing an Event is so easy, then why not you subscribe to organize the event?
Singapore is having government to support to push those major event which can boost their tourism society.
We are having a government to support when 'THERE ARE BENEFITS which BOOST their pocket

alot of people complain about klcc. i felt it was abit too cold and there's the problem of gamers hanging out area. there wasn't any place to sit or lepak inside or outside the hall. sit outside the hall, guard will chase us away..

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...&#entry19257130

wow ~ yeah i agree about this spectator thingy~

Anyway~ The sponsors only want $$$

They dun really care about how gamers feel~

Overall i dont mind anything, just that the time management... REALLY SUCKS! ARGHH

*pat pat* ~ so cham... i dulan what u know? i dulan the marshal call me come at 9AM, But he ownself come at 9.40AM~ Somemore the doors for the hall open at 10.30... I came so early also dunno do what... My 1st match starts on 1.30PM... Sigh...



This post has been edited by Soul-X: Aug 18 2008, 04:30 PM

lol xD

wtf! who ninja stole my team's top8 shirt!
ehuahheahhaaha

did someone con you into thinking your time was 5.30?

lol some people just cant read

u go find 1 event job and do then u know how was it, approach in2 and join them so u will see how their working

There is always unexpected situation which required the players to be around for their game.
If you are not, then kindly dun blame

And seriously, hix and eru you both sux

@Invince_Z: KLCC is smaller and cost more. Personally I would also loved if they did it at KLCC as it's within walking distance from my office but I doubt that they want it to be done there again with all the complaints it have

i simply LOL at this kinda remarks.
u mean we can't get better management and organization?

heck, i've been playing MTG for i dunno how many years. the management of events (be it a simple qualifiers, prerelease, a Grand Prix or even a friggin PRO TOUR) is amazing. they dun need govt money or much support. and i know the singaporeans are jealous with us because Malaysia has been chosen as a stop for Pro Tour over them. in case you dunno, Pro Tour is an event where most superstar players come and play for the chance to win up to USD250000 in cash and prizes.

you guys should see the Pro Player's lounge they got in KLCC during the tournament. simply amazing.

if they can do it. why not in2?
MTG is a world class too..

i've been working in event's company for a few years before. i know it's hard. but all it takes is proper planning and execution. no bullshit. it's Event Management 101!!!

oh, in case you are wondering what kinda events i used to work on.. try Le Tour De Langkawi for 1999 - 2001 series, all event stops thru out malaysia including the road shows and the finale concert. that's how big the event i used to do.

there's a saying in event's management world, "if you can't do a good event, better dun do". that's what i'm saying to In2.

they are neglecting the core and key elements of the event, which is the gamers. it's sad to see there's not even a water dispenser for the players to take a drink from. not even a proper player's area. simply bad.

how to grow the community then?

This post has been edited by technophile: Aug 18 2008, 06:49 PM

pls visit http://my.worldcybergames.com/ & notice




its ok to try,but u nid to know when to pull urself out(edited to sound nicer)

This post has been edited by Timber2k7: Aug 18 2008, 06:46 PM

i don't think you can really compare a esports tournament to a card game tournament or le tour de langkawi

LOL. another brainless comment.
what's the difference then?

both require event management, both require sponsors, both are at a scale of grandeur.

simply put, PC gamers in malaysia are being treated like shit. like we are not important.

and MTG is not just a card game tournament, go to one and see for yourself.

yupz...i agree with u about the temp n hanging area. klcc is wayyyy colder than mv. in mv i dont hv to wear sweater on 1st n 2nd day. only wear it on 3rd day bcoz heavy rains making the temp slighly below my limit. n thats y i said...at least give us cheapo carpet to sit on. meaning it is welcomed to hv in hall food court during wcg. no need going out, missing game, and then disqualified. gamers can sit there n chit chatting, knowing each other better. how is it?

pak guard chasing gamers causes bad name on us. haizzz...mv got probs. klcc got probs. so where suitable? maybe in2 should co-op with PC Fair organizers. make both even run at same time so that more ppls come to wcg = attract more sponsors = better prizes = more free gives. huhu.....


then mv is the best choice is it? no other choice?

This post has been edited by Invince_Z: Aug 18 2008, 10:21 PM

Sunway Piramid 2? hahaha

How about Times Square? Just opposite Lowyat..

People are more professional and experience
And with that they can no doubt neglect how others feeling and judging at they are failing


As what i mentioned earlier, Hope some one willing to stand on opponent's boots to figure out what is happening
And i hope you should understand Malaysia's culture. When we gave them something and they will demand more
I am not 100% satisfied on the event but at least i know the organizers deserve some respect from the gaming community.
Rather than allowing you guys criticizing on them not doing this and that.

Kindly don't bring along kiasu and kiasi attitude to accuse people are brainless.

as a competitor, i have my rights and needs.
it's a matter of respect. if the organizer do not respect the ppl who make the events work, then simply dun do that event.
asking for respect back from ppl who have been treated unfairly sounds so... Malaysian rite?

i call ppl brainless because they seem not to think before they speak.
at what basis he claim that e-sports is different from card tourney and le tour?

kindly state the basis of the claims, prove and facts. then i will not call it brainless.
dun just pluck something out of thin air.

times square? that maybe one of the venue in list. lots of places to hangout, easily accessible and hopefully not too expensive (but i think mv is the cheapest 1 ).

This post has been edited by Invince_Z: Aug 18 2008, 10:25 PM

Well, it is after all video game competitions right?
E-Sports will never get the same amount of respect as sports like soccer and badminton because you just can't compare the amount of people who play physical sports to a video game. People who participate in E-Sports are usually Male. I'm not saying there are no females but let's be frank almost everyone who took part in WCG was a guy. Even if they open a females categoty, how many people do you think would actually join.

Let's not make a hype out of all this, I mean just look at Malaysia's standard in gaming, nothing spectacular right?

in malaysia maybe not.
in South Korea and US, professional gamer can make a living from gaming.

Well that's onlu possible because gamers there can do well internationally, if Malaysian gamers can win international tournaments then I think it's possible to earn a living through gaming. One of the few reasons why we can't do that is because the truth is that no one really cares about E-sports or gaming in Malaysia.

Take a look at Kingsurf the Dota Team, if you've heard of them you know that they are getting sponsors and are going overseas for tournaments etc They are getting more recognition and financial support because they are achieving what other people aren't in this country.

At the end of the day, I think you just can't compare Malaysia to other countries. You just can't

There is a fifa player in malaysia that manage to get into WCG World Finals top4 and also manage to win WCG Asian Championship twice....its not as bad as it seems=).

hmm.. 2 malaysians have finished 4th in MTG World's before.

one player (Terry Soh) also got a card printed with his face on it.

it's the corporate sponsors i tell you. they see gamers as nothing. frankly speaking malaysians have been doin well abroad when it comes to gaming. be it a card game or e-sports.

it's the public mentality too la.

flip open a NDSL inside the lrt, you will see some office chicks giving you the snickers. stupid..

si_jali? He lost in the 2nd round knockout.

Agree with u that the core and key elements of the event are the gamers. Let's not forget the game enthusiasts as well.

There are surely rooms for improvement for WCG Msia if they can take all the constructive critism into implementation and not to lament out tons of excuses.

There are however few improvement if compared to past WCG. Such as :-
a. Improvement of design of website. And updates for the before the events are timely.

b. Continuation of Free registration is commendable. Gamers participating in the event got a lot of goodies, how about game enthuasists that visit the event, any goodies for them?

c. Available of WCG T-shirts and WCG caps apparel for purchase. Visitors are therefore spared the usual embarassment of biding hundreds of ringgits just for a piece of WCG cloth (like the previous years). However, no receipt had been issued and no platics back to place the purchased apparel (as far as in Day 1).

Others aspect for improvement would include a gamers and visitors centred facility and well-informed information delivery system.

Lol, you should go and see the Samsung booth la. They can win handphone and mp3 players. Also goodie bags was handed out each day IIRC

I concur

Yeap.. he lost in the 2nd round, but the fact is he won 2 GOLD medal for Malaysia=).My point here is although he already did his part as a gamer but the gaming scene in Malaysia doenst improve much as it was hope for.
The problem doesnt just lies on da achievements of gamers but other factors as well=)...

Haha... i still remember... i was complaining... like crazy... for last year's wcg.... about the bad organizing... time scheduling...and and proper management... by the organizers... and got called stupid and ask to go back to high school... ROFL... technophile has a strong and good point... well... u know la... if good comments... are falling on deaf ears... no use also...

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Added on August 19, 2008, 1:44 am
oh ya... about my comment... on this year's wcg08??? i went back to highschool... and have grown matured since then... so my comment is... "i have no comment, ROFL"

This post has been edited by ken0777: Aug 19 2008, 01:44 AM

yeah, and i dun get the whole thing happening on fridays man. first no respect for Muslim that's goin to prayers. then it's the school kids ponteng sekolah.

my bro had to skip school to get his tag. aiyo.

can't they have a special counter on saturday whole day for ppl to get their tags from? it's mind boggling u know.

How about if every single gamers bombard their mailbox and rise the complains. If there's no change in WCG2009, looks like we have to follow the flow.

Speaking about the sponsors, Samsung has been the worldwide partner for WCG itself. I am very sure that MDEC has supported this event since they fully supported e-sports.

Wanna rope in Rakan Siber as well?

CELgames '08 which was in MV last month...was kinda cool... maybe less ppl participated la... but... the whole event was very systematic, fast, no delay and plus... the GRID booth... got hell alot of hot chics... and the other PS3 and Wii booths were fill with ppl... kinda fun playin rock band while waiting for my turn to play...

Well 1 thing for sure,

They really mess up the tournament bracket, that's why alot of bracket are left empty. Some have to be replaced with hand drawn bracket.

Even with my tournament experience I can't understand the bracket. They have something like that


Anyway, kudos to the main stage. Looks great.

malaysia boleh! oops... maybe not..

at least we get free t-shirts from intel... ^^

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Added on August 19, 2008, 2:32 amThat my fren...looks like a robot arm when looked from far... hehehe Wall-E's arm la!!! ROFL!!!

This post has been edited by ken0777: Aug 19 2008, 02:32 AM

LOL WALL-E~ WTF

wow, brainless. ok.. lol
not saying an esports tournament cant be as great as MTG or le tour.
what i meant was the difference is how all the parties (in malaysia) treat it. they wont take it as seriously. gov & sponsors don't really care about e-sports here. not as much as something like le tour. there's the difference for me.

who runs/organize the mtg world tour in msia btw ?

edit : oh and, calling someone brainless and not seeing any difference between malaysian wcg qualifier, MTG tour and le tour de langkawi... lol

This post has been edited by NecrosavaNt: Aug 19 2008, 04:07 AM

yalor..the bracket system really confusing. not fair la losers can go into final and then become the winner.

yea if im not mistaken theres 18 teams after the first eliminations.weird how can like that?

nles you go give them your wisdom also bro : D

huhu...lucky din join...
anyway...got any1 interested in my wcg 06 jacket?...^^

depends. Loser brackets give second chance for you to be able to claw back. And besides, a person playing from the loser bracket has to win 3 games compared to the person from the winner bracket that has only to win 2. This is why Serry's win in WC3 was so awesome as he beats the odd coming from the loser bracket to win.

nah, just get rm20 from everyone, save all the hassle...but i doubt so..they just wanna create crowd..

honestly i strongly think if registration fee was charged it would be as crowded as well.just make it affordable.we dont mind paying as long as they can do a better job.afterall.

its like e-sport olympic.the spirit of competition where money can buy.

olympic u also need to pay money for joining it, less complain solve problems.

My dear, FYI, we ALLOW other people to collect tags on behalf of you (or your brother for that matter). No one asked your bro to ponteng school to get it, ya?

oh, and how come all those years before we've never gotten complains when we start tournaments on Fridays? and then last year we made it 2 days, and this year we have 3 days again, suddenly so many people complain? why ar? collect tags on saturday (2nd day)? The tournament has already eliminated half the people.

compare with WCG Sg? how come they never get complains while their tournaments are on weekdays? wonders.

If we allow tag collections on the first day, would it be fair for those who wants to register but slots are full? Just because of some idiots who registers way before, and then ffk? Turning around registration in a night is pretty challenging, FYI.

I read a lot of your interesting comments, but somehow most of it sounded like you're angry while commenting.. I shall give you a reply when i finish work tonightz.

ngeks. to the rest, thanks for coming, we love you guys

This post has been edited by angelstarz: Aug 19 2008, 11:26 AM

Actually, nothing wrong with the 3 days event. For me, i'm happy that it's was held on fri, sat, sun. It's way way way better, so that organizers can have more time to sort out players and to settle some last minute stuff & changes, i.e players ffk and organizing the players for each game. Honestly, i think organizers did a far better job this year compared to last year. The grand stage were superb!!! Only thing i realize, not many display booths from other game companies as compared to this year. More game booths = more happening = more crowds = more exposure and not to forget, more leng zhais and leng luiz... *gurls also wanna see leng zhaiz ma* and maybe... [W|nDs] al3x too... muahahaha *hope he neva read this*

Alex gay la, if he not with vin, he's with sildes lol

LMAO... ROFL... LOL!!! I think whole world knows that d...

or if not with sildes ..he will gay with loon4tic.!

I think the upsets this year is obvious enough proof that standard in msia has indeed rise.

Its either that, or last years champs got real sloppy.

well, samsung pay alot for the event company for them hosting the wcg (worldwide sponser)... hmm i mean, sponser pay for the event, if not event company pay it then they earn wat ? it depend on the samsung (not sure about this) want to give who in charge of this wcg, since In2 incharge for so many year, a event like this big, impossible a big company will get a new event to held it, unless In2 not doing their job well. (so far so good )

look at MYM Player or StarCraft player in Korea, their fan's are out of your imagination
want more example ?

Agree,
But malaysia will be soon, some of the team already get some income, just the money not that much to cover their living expenses.


No complain no improve, if the same question keep coming out, then probably is a big problem d. Scheduling always the hardest part. Well just look for a better WCG in 2009

@ angelstarz:
01. ponteng/tag collection:
ponteng or x...some still hv to ponteng bcoz they can ask xone to help them collect the tag.

as for myself, i'm considered lucky bcoz seed84 is kind and helpful enough to help me collect without implementing any charges at all. even refuse my idea to treat him for lunch. furthermore, this time wcg was held on my 1st, 2nd n 3rd day uni mid-sem break. so..xneed ponteng. so, where am i on tag collection day? i'm in serdang visiting maha 08 as part of my uni subject assignment.

so..my suggestion is, gamers who participate in wcg is allowed to collect their tag on both tag redemption day and on the very 1st day of wcg up to 11 am. Over 11 am, disqualified. wcg team can offer the slot to walk-in after that or choose x to entertain any registration request.

02. jumaat prayer:
pls be sensitive to us, muslims. for those living far enough (> 90km), they are allowed to skip jumaat prayer n combine both zuhur and asar. but for those who stay in 90 km radius, it is x recommend. skipping jumaat prayer only allowed to those living >90 km, and to those who struggling between live n death. i dont think gaming is a live n death situation.

best is to start all gaming session on 2.15 pm exact. this could give wcg team extra time to rearrange anything that was x right. and in relation to my suggestion in 01., regarding tag collection, this means extra time for printing tags and doing stuffs.

03. no complaints b4:
who said x complaints? it just that past wcg is far better and well arrange compared to this year. and this year wcg is boring. nothing to do except wandering around doing nothing...too little booth, too little activities. if we x in hall, there are chances we r going to disqualified. i can barely hear marshals calling for gamers even i only sitting on chair in front of main stage.

eg: as what NecrosavaNt said, gamers complaints that klcc is colder than mv, no hang out places, n no food court.


@ linkinstreet:
fifa? u play until which round?

This post has been edited by Invince_Z: Aug 19 2008, 03:20 PM

it is WOTC but thru some ppl (i.e micheal toh, you can find him in MTG section of LYN forum) and other local tournament organizers.

those ppl no need to work in events company as WOTC gave them a specific metrics to be followed and so far, it has been working tremendously.

so does this mean that WCG in whole didn't have any metrics that the local organizers can follow?
or simply the organizers dun wanna follow.

and are you saying that malaysian govt and sponsors give a damn about MTG tournaments?
without WOTC, i dun think we can live.

so you see, it goes back to the main sponsors and the company who is the main corporate sponsor.

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Added on August 19, 2008, 3:41 pmi wasn't angry. just stating the facts. read properly pls.

ok la. maybe it's my bad to compare WCG with MTG, but the thing is, for MTG, you can pre-register yourself and not have to force ourself to collect tags what so ever in order to play. the system is flawless whereby only the player is allowed in the playing field. spectators have their section to watch the games being played. maybe because registration is free (i'm not sure about this) for WCG, ppl can just ffk anytime they want and end up taking space for ppl who really wants to play. in MTG, registration requires money and if you ffk, there's no refund.

i dun have any qualms on having tourney running thru out the week. heck, that's how MTG invitationals and Worlds are being organized. but the thing is, like i say during friday, pls have some respect for muslim and give them leeway to perform their duties.

during the big MTG tourneys (except worlds and invitational), fridays are reserved for last chance qualifiers (that starts around 5pm and goes well into 11pm) and side events. the main events are played whole day saturday and sunday.

once again, i'm not angry. all i'm saying is try to take a look at how other sports (card game etc alike) are doin their events. there's a lot of room to improve on malaysian WCG. and with proper planning and promotion (to the mass media pls!), ppl will know that these things exist and will soon expand the scene here in malaysia.

This post has been edited by technophile: Aug 19 2008, 03:41 PM

@angelstarz

next time pls ask marshal dun sinkalan ask ppl come at 9AM when they ownself reach on 9.40AM... =___________="

If the hall doors are meant to be open on 10.30AM, Please tell the gamers to come on 10.30AM instead of 9AM... Really dunno do what came so early... When the marshal himself havent even reach...

As a gamer, every minute counts, if i knew that the doors are open on 10.30, I can save that some time having some more rest at home sleeping, training the game or even doing other stuffs better than waiting in mid valley waiting for the WCG hall doors to be open...

Funny complaint...

Not as a gamer every second or minutes count, but as a human the time is precious!

but friday prayers, not much want to argue, just hope able to arrange better time, as complaint could get easily related to religion.

Well, from 2001 till now, i only join went for 2001 till 2003, i do notice is more and more worst, especially time management and advertising, budget not enough i presume.

hmm thats nice of wizards. they support their own game.. i dont think any international org does that for wcg in malaysia. maybe a little from samsung. even though MTG doesnt get the gov support wizards (which is a very successful&big org is behind it). does valve, blizzard or ea help wcg/in2? its a question, cause i dont really know.

and about the friday prayers complains, the marshals didnt compromise at all? that is seriously wrong. either start the games after or give breaks for those who has to go.

Oh, I don't know where to add since Invince_Z, technophile, Soul-X, NecrosavaNt and others have arise that matter.

angelstarz,

As a representative, you should take our comments positively. We as gamers love this scene and we did this just because we want to protect our gaming scene. Don't worry, we're not angry, we're just reminding what we feels it's right to do.

Hope that some post-mortem can be done to improve WCG in years to come. We have WGT coming over this November so let's focus on that

OFF TOPIC
change ur signature please psychomouse46.

Nope, dont complaint too much, i wouldnt like to see another bla bla hard to get sponsor reply.

I joined WCG 2003 till now 2008...

Yeah i notice its more and more worst too... Last time before heading to Mid valley, got alot of WCG advertisements on those lamp post~ Now all gone~ LOL

The time management gone worst than last time, Last time the the shedulle is okay... At least if got delay, Also delay 30minute only... NOW??? DELAY 5 hours?? WTF!!

also heard complains where the top 8 gamer shirts isnt enough because it was given to non-top8 players without checking 1st

these r all useful feedback, learn to take criticism

This post has been edited by Timber2k7: Aug 19 2008, 09:03 PM

oh,,,,

haha...
well let's hope 09 will be alot better..
cuz im gonna make a strikeback....^^
anyway...any1 interested my wcg jacket?...^^