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TSmarauderz
post Aug 8 2008, 10:53 AM, updated 18y ago

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Following the GTA linked murder in Thailand
http://www.reuters.com/article/technologyN...lBrandChannel=0

Someone is threatening our pasttime
http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=...29371&sec=focus

It's always like this, the moment someone mentions that video games made them did it everyone forgets that it's an 18 year old, with a sound state of mind (as quoted by the police) that decided it was OK to stab someone, and just point the finger at video games!

I sent this response to the Editor.. wonder if it'll get published.

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In response to the letter by the President of Consumers Association Of Penang, Mr S.M. Mohamed Idris.

I was reading The Star this morning and was shocked to find such comments being made by such a knowledgeable person.

First of all the crime was committed by an 18 year old, that makes him pretty much an adult in some societies. His reasoning for committing the crime was that he wanted to find out if it was as easy in real life to rob a taxi as it was in the game. Also according to the Reuter’s news report, police said the person showed no sign of mental problems during questioning.

My question is this, what kind of person with no mental problems thinks that it’s OK to rob someone, and then proceeded to stab the person while he was retaliating?

Why is it then when something bad happens and the criminal just makes a comment that video games made them do it that everyone points the finger at video games? There are so many other reasons for someone to commit such a terrible act such as this.

Why doesn’t anyone blame other possible reasons? Stress? Peer pressure? Maybe they aren’t that sound of mind after all? Rock And Roll?
Again let me remind the readers that the crime was commited by an 18 year old, not a 7 year old with a knife. If we believe that an 18 year old can still be influenced by a game that he’s playing to commit such terrible acts, when then can a person be considered an adult, when then can we make a person TRULY RESPONSIBLE for their actions and not point to finger to whatever the reason the person mention?

A voice in my head asked me to do it, rock and roll made me do it, movies made me do it, tv made me do it, reading the news made me do it, drugs made me do it, video games made me do it.

At what age then should all these reasons be swept aside and the blame solely placed on the person who actually DID IT?

To the statement that Violent video games and programmes have been linked to expression of violence and aggression, there are also reports that show that both are NOT LINKED to expression of violence and aggression. And most importantly all these external influences do not affect someone with a stable mind.

Video games are a great way of winding down after a day of work, or just hanging out with my friends by going into a match with an opposing team online. I’ve been playing games for most of my life and Yes there are violent video games, and I play them all the time. But I know perfectly well that it’s just a game, and would never even think that it’s ok to do what I do in games to anyone.

So don’t blame the video games, or the movies, or the tv, or the internet. Blame the perfectly sane 18 year old who decided that it’s OK to try and rob someone of their livelihood, and their life.

Signed.

CHAN WEI MIN
30 year old, father of a 1.5 year old son,
Violent Video Game Player.
Hope I didn't sound too aggressive.. tongue.gif
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post Aug 8 2008, 11:03 AM

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post Aug 8 2008, 11:12 AM

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U dun sound agressive at any point. I'm only hoping the guy puts a rational thinking cap because bolehland loves to point fingers. Well, most of its citizens do so.

Only a fool who believes that a baby is still a baby even after the baby is already 21 or 30 years old for that matter.
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post Aug 8 2008, 11:19 AM

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adults reason by pointing towards games because they have no interest in it and the President of Consumers Association will follow the general consensus,but you have to look both ways video games do make unstable ppl worse
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post Aug 8 2008, 11:23 AM

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too much television
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post Aug 8 2008, 11:25 AM

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the easiest conclusion is to blame the video game influenced the teen..all we do is blame blame blame
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post Aug 8 2008, 11:29 AM

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QUOTE(sonicboom90 @ Aug 8 2008, 11:19 AM)
but you have to look both ways video games do make unstable ppl worse
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If the person is unstable, ANYTHING would make him worse.

And remember.. the 18 year old shows no signs of mental instability. tongue.gif
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post Aug 8 2008, 11:31 AM

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Pick the easy way out. Why spend lots of money and time to educate consumers on video game ratings, content and parental guidance when we could just call up the govt and say "Ey! ban violent games!"

good reasoning is it not? sad.gif
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post Aug 8 2008, 11:36 AM

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CAP is one of those useless "persatuan" that keep barking to get this and that banned.

Again it's sad to see ppl pointing fingers to a videogame because all of this hoo-haa.

All it takes is education.

Common ppl still associate videogaming with kids, when in reality, it is a business generating 45 billion dollars per year. Weird i say these ppl's attitude.

I know that CAP fella never touched a videogame once in his life, let alone GTA4.
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post Aug 8 2008, 11:59 AM

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no,their never going to ban games coz if they do then their going to have to ban movies,music,theatre and then speech of such things.All they can do is moderate to a level
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post Aug 8 2008, 12:19 PM

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Politicians and government officials who use video game violence to boost their own non-existent presence are massive wankers.
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post Aug 8 2008, 02:28 PM

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In response to the letter by the President of Consumers Association Of Penang, Mr S.M. Mohamed Idris....

Dear Sir,


You are a damn fool for believing this and i hope that one day Mr.T will come over to your house and smack you in the face because of the fool you are.

Thank You and good day.


See mine is sweet and to the point. tongue.gif
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post Aug 8 2008, 02:45 PM

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If this particular video game is available in Malaysia, CAP calls on the Ministry of Domestic Trade and Consumer Affairs to immediately halt its sales and ban this game. The Ministry should also warn the public and any stocks that have already been sold should be recalled.


obviously he know nothing about games and his job is ban without knowing anything about it. what a shame. he should resign after make that statement.
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post Aug 8 2008, 03:52 PM

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what if we try to appeal to govt asking to ban CAP. all they ever did to improve malaysians is.. err.. nothing??

i would like to meet this moron.. have a teh tarik with him and ask him what is his problems are.

i would like to see he blames the video games too for all the rape case, incests, and crooked politicians.


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post Aug 8 2008, 04:07 PM

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QUOTE(msn83235502 @ Aug 8 2008, 02:45 PM)
obviously he know nothing about games and his job is ban without knowing anything about it. what a shame. he should resign after make that statement.
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the man has a right to act like that,what if the game was to blame for the murder stated above and the taxi driver was your father or brother you would want to first get revenge and then ban the game,the politician is just acting out the emotional state of that comunity its just politics
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so are you saying that anyone can act emotionally in the name of politics?


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post Aug 8 2008, 04:42 PM

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he is spineless so he plays on their emotional state of fear n anger by escalating the situation just to gain popularity from the community,if a politician who liked games and promised better xbox live connection etc you would vote for him or at the lest like him same thing
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QUOTE(sonicboom90 @ Aug 8 2008, 04:07 PM)
the man has a right to act like that,what if the game was to blame for the murder stated above and the taxi driver was your father or brother you would want to first get revenge and then ban the game,the politician is just acting out the emotional state of that comunity its just politics
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I'd like to get revenge on the PERSON, not the game. My main quip is the fact that people seem to be able to shed all responsibilities to their actions by saying a game made them do it.
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post Aug 8 2008, 04:52 PM

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say i walk on a street. i got a knife with me. i stabbed a guy and i killed him. the police came, i said to the police.

"that dog asked me to do it"

do you think the police will shoot the dog and not me?

hence the argument over blaming the game and the game gets the axe. same thing.

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