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jootat
post Feb 5 2013, 10:59 AM

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hey guys, i am also just new to bonsai but i have planted some sui mei from seeds many many years ago. to be honest, i just let it grow and without any care. But recently, i have repot them and prune them but didn't train them yet. Actually donno how to train them sad.gif

but i bought another sui mei bonsai from semenyih there last weekend. i hope to learn more from u guys by reading all the post you guys posted here and also will do some study online smile.gif
jootat
post Feb 5 2013, 11:21 AM

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QUOTE(Bonsailelong @ Feb 5 2013, 11:16 AM)
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Welcome Jootat !  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif

Please post up your photos for sharing.  icon_rolleyes.gif
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ok bro ... haven't got the time to snap photos. Just 2 weeks i have been actively jaga-ing my shui mei after so many years. I feel so malu. But luckily they made it till today. If not i will feel damn regret for bring back the seeds and plant them sad.gif

But just a quick question, since i just repot them and it's actually a deep pot and i just realized if we want to train them, we need to put them in a shallow pot/smaller pot? How i wish i found this thread much earlier!
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post Feb 5 2013, 11:48 AM

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QUOTE(zabel8484 @ Feb 5 2013, 11:38 AM)
Welcome Jootat,

If i'm not wrong, we plant them in a deep pot until we get the bonsai material we want, trunk size..etc.. then we repot to bonsai shallow pot by pruning the root for training.
Trunk and nebari first , then the upper part, branches and shape/style later when you got a good base.

Am i rite Bonsailelong?
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thx bro, may be i will just snap a photo for one of the plant that i have now, then may be u guys can give me some suggestion. Learn from you guys! smile.gif
jootat
post Feb 6 2013, 02:51 PM

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ok, here it goes for two of my bonsai first. Hope to hear some suggestion/advice.

1 i bought it from semenyih nursery and another one is i planted from seed at least 7 years ago.

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This one i bought it from the nursery last weekend. Initially it was botak. But now the leave starts to grow leow.

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My fail bonsai sad.gif ... And yesterday i accidentally hit the tree and it got out from the soil. I think i will need to push the soil harder tonight when i go home. Yesterday night was too late and too tired when i accidentally hit it. I know this is a very messy one, and trust me, i got some even worse than this sad.gif icon_question.gif
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post Feb 7 2013, 10:13 AM

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QUOTE(Bonsailelong @ Feb 6 2013, 05:45 PM)
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Hi Jootat,

If I'm not wrong the first photo of "shui mui" you bought is from Sanfong. I've seen quite a lot of this shape there.
It's already 80% done, However I suggest you look into the wiring at the main trunk. Any sign of "eating in", if so
unwire only the main trunk wires.
Another suggestion is that don't put any stone or rock above the soil, in a long run, the weight of the stones or rock is not only
compacting the soil but will also result uneven grow of roots which in turn affect uneven grow of foliage.

For this one which you trained yourself, You are doing a good work.
I suggest you give it a little touch up.

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Re pot your " shui mui" in a higher pot, plant it vertical, cover the small exposed roots, leave the big one exposed.
cut the big branches indicated in order to give your tree a balance look. Then cut the top layer of branches shorter, let it have a cone shape image,
wire and pull the lower level of branches a bit lower and let it grow for sometimes before doing further improvement.
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TQVM sifu Bonsailelong. And you are so pro, see already knew where i bought it. HAHA! Yea, i bought it from there but the lady owner helped me to repot it and she also mentioned that the pot that i choose is bit too large, so she added the stone and also the little deco there. Yea, she told me in another 2 - 3 months i will need to remove one of the wire if i noticed the tree started to eat in. I hope i can maintain this one and learn from there.

As for your suggestion, thanks again. And i will follow your advice. And u mean i shouldn't use this shallow pot for my current shui mei right? I will repot it to a deeper pot then. But tonight and tomorrow night i am running out of time since rushing for preparation for CNY leow. Do you think i can wait till next week?
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post Feb 7 2013, 05:06 PM

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QUOTE(Bonsailelong @ Feb 7 2013, 04:58 PM)
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Well, you can re pot any time convenient to yourself.

For the "shui mui" that you bought from sanfong, I suggest you maintain it in this shape constantly.
That means any branches grows out of shape got to be cut away.

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This "shui mui" might have a decent trunks and branches but lack of nebari.
If you are willing to try, you can follow my suggestion.
Uproot the tree carefully, cut away the centre main roots, leave all the side roots.
Put a layer of soil at the bottom of the same pot, then place a piece of flat  stone right
at the middle of the pot and place your tree right on top of the stone. Then spread out the side roots evenly
and put back the soil. Your pot might be a bit big but it's good for nebari training. Don't worry, your "shui mui"
won't die easily.

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If I find time I'll try to do and post a photo series for the bonsai tree nebari training for sharing.
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ok ... thx again. You are giving detailed instructions. I will try to maintain it. And also, i think i understand what u trying to say on the nebari traiing. But if possible, i might not try that for now. May be i will go through more information and once i am confident enough to try, then i will proceed with ur suggestion smile.gif

I have a few more shui mei, but let's go one by one ... hahaa
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post Sep 30 2014, 11:09 AM

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QUOTE(Bonsailelong @ Sep 30 2014, 08:40 AM)
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Try Sanfong Bonsai Nursery at Semenyih.
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they got a lot of nice bongsai there ... i bought 1 from there too and sadly i did not have time to take care of my bonsai ... sigh!

 

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