Hi Stephagorn.

Very Welcome!        
And Thank you very much to join in. 
Camel Thorn Tree - can't wait to see how it looks like and eagle to know how you got it ! 

Acacia erioloba - camel thorn tree. The beautiful trees we see on the Savannah Plain in the National Geographic channel.
Very interesting !     

 

I think.......Stephagorn  can we make an exchange....

..this [attachmentid=3296518] a 3 yrs old Buxus Harlandii  (Boxwood) pre bonsai

for this [attachmentid=3296524]

We can meet up at Zebal's place on a Sunday but only after Chinese New Year,
and after all, I've not been to Ho Min Yuen for more than 2 yrs.

And this one [attachmentid=3296529] is a Premna Microphylla.

I got this from ibonsai forum about japanese black pine,

"
about 20 years later, and from seed [ Japan, a gift pack posted to me,] I would say no. Additionally, a German guy also told me that the Japanese Black Pine grows all the way down onto the beach in Japan. You may wish to check and see if the Japanese Black Black wasn't originally a Chinese Black Pine and if it came from the coastal area of South China.

What may give you problems is translating the training information from Japan to tropical conditions and responses.

I have several pines and every year add on a few more seedlings, just to keep figuring out the training technique.

I live in the Caribbean, and we have a pronounced dry season from January until around May, growing cooler by October until say February[ lowest normal night temperature 19 deg.c and lowest recorded temperature 15 deg.c ]
Daytime is a standard 30 -> 33 deg.c as summer comes on.
Breezy island.

Soil mix is mostly crushed silica sand [ 70 % ] and compost. Testing the use of crushed, porous, eartheware red brick, from our local brick factories. Gives excellent drainage.
Growing containers are simple, peasant made earthenware lowfired red brick round flower pots, up to 16 inches wide [ 41 cm ] and 5 to 6 inches deep [ 12 to 15 cm ]
Placement full sun with a light zephyr.

See if you can contact Leo de Leon [ Manila ] as he is also growing Black pines.

Hope this helps.
Khaimraj

"

I think i would buy some seed and just try out, the seed are about rm20 for 5+ seeds. anyone want to try together?

A TRIP TO " HO MIN YUEN"

First of all I would like to  correct a mistake which is unintentionally make all the time.

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It's "MIN HOE YUEN" BONSAI NURSERY. We got it "up side down" 

This is my Melaka bonsai buddy - young, dyminic, enterprising and full of potential.

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Min Ho Yuen bonsai nursery was actually on a single piece of land of approx. 5 acres.
A Pokok Mangga double lanes drive way was built cutting right through it and now it's divided
into 2 sections.
I visited the first section of Min Ho Yuen under the guide of my buddy Zabel. Accroding to him this is the place
where we can actually buy some materials of reasonable prices. So we move on...

[attachmentid=3309943] A welcome gazebo at the entrance.

Lots of old and gigantic junipers
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[attachmentid=3309950] West Indian Cherry 

[attachmentid=3309953] Cascading Juniper Precumben.

[attachmentid=3310028] Some young black pine. Not sure is Japan or China?

After buying 2 nos of young black pine, a round lotus pot and a bottle of bark growing hormone, we process
to the second section of Min Hoe Yuen.
This is a "must" visit section.

[attachmentid=3309991] The entrance, looks nothing extra ordinary. 

Once enter, it's another world....  

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[attachmentid=3310006] Cascading Buddha Pine  [attachmentid=3310007] Causurina

[attachmentid=3310009]  Brazilian Rain Tree  [attachmentid=3310011]

And hundreds of "shui mui"

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If your are looking for large and gigantic bonsai materials, this s the place.
If you have a big garden and look for bonsai style landscape materials, this is definitely the place. 

A VISIT TO MIN HOE YUEN - "Forwards"

After making an appointment with my Melaka bonsai buddy to meet the next morning at
a place beside a supermarket early in the morning, I started my journey down and arrived
at the appointed location a little earlier, and at that moment the call of mother nature was high,
and so I just parked my car beside the super-mart and answer to the "high" call at the toilet of the mart.
It took about 3 mins+ and I came out....

[attachmentid=3310055] ...alamak ! a rm 100 parking summon ! 

The MPMB parking officer was still around, and so I asked him why he issued me such an expensive summon,
I went off for a short while just to go to toilet only. Without speaking a words, he shown me the double yellow lines just beside my car.
I can't argue anymore and just drove my car to a parking lot nearby.
Immediately I moved my car, another 2 cars moved in and parked at the same location that I have just parked.

[attachmentid=3310064] .. and the people left their cars and enter the super-mart.
The MPMB car parking officer was there, just looked on. At this instant I just can't tolerated anymore
and I walked over and asked the officer why these cars were not issued summons and only issued mine.
This  fellow, he just ignored me and walked away and disappeared himself at a corner of the building.
When I looked at the 2 cars, they are Melaka plates. Then I began to realize.....
Do Melaka cars have special privileges ? Definitely - NO!
I think this MPMB officer is waiting for the car owners to come out and ask for coffee money for not issuing
summons to their cars, as for mine, I'm from oustation, so he give me the most expensive summon to show
his superior that he is doing his job!       

SO, THIS IS ONE MALAYSIA ! OR ONE MELAKA?     

Hi Oldkidz,

Yes, if you are near Melaka, you can get it there in Min Hoe Yuen Bonsai nursery, i would recommend becoz if you go normal nursery they would not have bonsai materials rather they will have garden plants.
If you are near Semeyih, then Sanfong would be the best of the best to get great bonsais. With a budget of RM100/- you can get a very nice Shui Mui 80% done bonsai.
Bonsai materials ranged from RM10 - rm50. cheap ones.
With this you can get, shui mui, boxwood, buddhist pine, young junipers and some fukien tea.
The Min Hoe Yuen is located in Pokok Mangga( GPS SengHeng pokok Mangga), if you can find Evonsave supermart then you're near..

Hi Stephagorn,

The seeds are not here yet, i'll let you know once they're here.

Bonsailelong just arrange to meet up tomorrow for Min Hoe Yuen again!!
Yay! but it'll be in the morning, at 930am, a nice breakfast next to MHY then Bonsai surveys...
I'm not sure of the actual address. But if you can find eeconsave, and then Sengheng after the fly over of pokok mangga, it's just there.
I'll PM you my number, if you are near there but can't find it.
Or you can meet us up tomorrow as we are also going again, in the morning. we will probably there at 930 till 10 something...

try upload it to imgur.com
then use the image button when you create post to upload it

Here's my suggestion

[attachmentid=3385609] and defoliate all the leaves, let new leaves grow out.

You should do it now, in a month's time new shoots will be budding out all over, then select the the branches you
want to keep, let them grow bigger before wiring and bend to the shape you like.